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Curran: "In my estimation... [Gonzo would like to] be treated as if he's at the table in 2027." [previous title: "say goodbye to gonzo"]

Well 33M AAV is a nice and tidy 10% of the cap...well worth it for a CB1. I'd do a deal right now and give him a BIGGER guarantee and more years.... in 3-4 years 33M AAV will be a bargain if the cap keeps growing like it has....

Maye is gonna be another problem....he will most definitely be the highest paid QB in NFL history this time next year, IMO. I hope we do a deal for Maye BEFORE the Bears and Commanders do for Williams and Daniels....
He’s not an FA though. Not good business sense for the Pats to look at this as in “3-4 years 33M AAV will be a bargain”. His current deal ends after the 2027 season and we could franchise tag him in 2028. Gonzo doesn’t hold all the cards.
 
He’s not an FA though. Not good business sense for the Pats to look at this as in “3-4 years 33M AAV will be a bargain”. His current deal ends after the 2027 season and we could franchise tag him in 2028. Gonzo doesn’t hold all the cards.

Yes, but he is only going to be paid peanuts this year and next year....relative to the average CB1 in the NFL.

And by doing a deal now....we can incorporate 2026 & 2027 cap numbers to average out the massive extension amounts/signing bonus proration.

Pissing off Gonzo isn't the play here.....it is trading him or paying him....that's it.
 
Yes, but he is only going to be paid peanuts this year and next year....relative to the average CB1 in the NFL.

And by doing a deal now....we can incorporate 2026 & 2027 cap numbers to average out the massive extension amounts/signing bonus proration.

Pissing off Gonzo isn't the play here.....it is trading him or paying him....that's it.
Paid peanuts but will get a huge upfront payment and guarantees. And he’s missed 1/3 of his games with the Pats. Like I said, he doesn’t hold all the cards.
 
He’s not an FA though. Not good business sense for the Pats to look at this as in “3-4 years 33M AAV will be a bargain”. His current deal ends after the 2027 season and we could franchise tag him in 2028. Gonzo doesn’t hold all the cards.
I went through this logic a while back and showed why the franchise tag doesn't work. Because the player holds out and eventually you trade him for peanuts.

This is precisely why no star has played under the franchise tag since Dak Prescott in 2020. The only exceptions are al the running backs (which is a special case) and Tee Higgins coming back from a debilitating injury.

If you get to a franchise tag situation, you've not only given up his value for trade (because you're not going to franchise him twice) but you risk him only playing 8 games in a holdout. It's really bad for both the team and the player. You only do it with running backs because they have such a short shelf-life that you don't even care.
 
Paid peanuts but will get a huge upfront payment and guarantees. And he’s missed 1/3 of his games with the Pats. Like I said, he doesn’t hold all the cards.
He can point to other CBs like Stingley who was also injured before his big contract.

Last 2 years, Gonzalez played 34 of 38 games. The Patriots went 1-3 in games he didn't play.
 
Smacks of entitlement….and he’s not even the best yet wants to be paid like the best. Yea he’s good but….
 
Then Jonathon will be taking over fairly soon because Bobby will have a heart attack and keel over when he finds out the number. In 2019, he was balking paying the GOAT $50M for two years. Lol.
Let me clarify. I didnt give you a "funny" because you said Bobby will have a heart attack. I surely don't want that for him or anybody else.
It was just the  idea of it. Kinda like what Fred Sanford used to do. " Here I come Elizabeth.."
Sanford and Richard Pryor both made fun of themselves having heart attacks. Pryor's was actually real. He was one of the 2 greatest comedians of all time, along with George Carlin.(who I had the pleasure of meeting)
 
Let me clarify. I didnt give you a "funny" because you said Bobby will have a heart attack. I surely don't want that for him or anybody else.
It was just the  idea of it. Kinda like what Fred Sanford used to do. " Here I come Elizabeth.."
Sanford and Richard Pryor both made fun of themselves having heart attacks. Pryor's was actually real. He was one of the 2 greatest comedians of all time, along with George Carlin.(who I had the pleasure of meeting)
I didn’t it mean it literally either. It was just a joke because of the complaints of how cheap Bob Kraft is.
 
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I do strongly suspect the recent sale of a small percentage of the team was about cash flow to be able to handle some of these upcoming contracts.
I think it has more to do with paying the estate tax due both the Feds and MA when he passes on. That amount will surprise most folks. The state tax can be avoided for most of us, but not when you live here or the business is located in MA. He will be paying 16% of the value of his estate to MA after the first two million exclusion. And unlike the Feds, there is no installment method to pay the tax on the value of a business over a 10 to 15 year period of time. For MA, the max is 3 years and it is not automatic. For the Feds, just another cool 40% of the assets less a generous deduction of 15 million and deducting the state taxes paid. There are other deductions the biggest being charitable donations but the man is looking at a huge estate tax bill as are most wealthy folks. This is one of the primary reasons why rich people are leaving states such as Illinois, MA, NY and others that have estate taxes once they reach retirement age. As mentioned, does not help if the business is here but many businesses can be moved, such as Ken Griffin and Citadel from Illinois to Florida. If Kraft is worth 10 billion dollars, he will be paying approximately 1.6 billion dollars to MA. I can can see why wealthy people move to other states to avoid this.
 
Paid peanuts but will get a huge upfront payment and guarantees. And he’s missed 1/3 of his games with the Pats. Like I said, he doesn’t hold all the cards.
He's also played 88 percent of his games over the past two seasons. Numbers can be used in many ways.
 
It really looks to me like they have to make a decision on how they want to structure the roster. Are you going to tie up top end money for a corner or do they want to earmark that money someplace else? Can they pay someone 50% of the money (or less) and get 80-90% production? Can they then spend top end money on a pass rusher? None of this takes into consideration the money that the QB will get. We will learn a great deal about how Vrabel wants to build the roster in the next 12 months.
 
He's also played 88 percent of his games over the past two seasons. Numbers can be used in many ways.
Why would the Patriots only view his last 2 seasons?
 
It really looks to me like they have to make a decision on how they want to structure the roster. Are you going to tie up top end money for a corner or do they want to earmark that money someplace else? Can they pay someone 50% of the money (or less) and get 80-90% production? Can they then spend top end money on a pass rusher? None of this takes into consideration the money that the QB will get. We will learn a great deal about how Vrabel wants to build the roster in the next 12 months.
I think Gonzo is blowing smoke: he's Top 5 I wouldn't put him #1 overall *sorry PatsFans*. I would offer him a contract same as CB Devon Witherspoon. If he balks I'm Drafting a CB in First Round in 27.
 
I think Gonzo is blowing smoke: he's Top 5 I wouldn't put him #1 overall *sorry PatsFans*. I would offer him a contract same as CB Devon Witherspoon. If he balks I'm Drafting a CB in First Round in 27.
OK, so then OL and DE and LB continue to be a weakness as you draft for a position which you now have covered and of course you don't even have a first rounder in 2028 and by that time AJ Brown will be old anyway and you just pissed away 3 seasons through bad strategy and bad planning.
 
OK, so then OL and DE and LB continue to be a weakness as you draft for a position which you now have covered and of course you don't even have a first rounder in 2028 and by that time AJ Brown will be old anyway and you just pissed away 3 seasons through bad strategy and bad planning.
I don't think Gonzo is Prime Revis sorry.
 
Why would the Patriots only view his last 2 seasons?
Why would they count what was a season ending innjury in his rookie year as proof of anything overall about his durability when he's played in 88 percent of the games in the following TWO years?
 
I don't think Gonzo is Prime Revis sorry.
Honestly, this means he's probably Prime Revis if you don't think so.

 
Honestly, this means he's probably Prime Revis if you don't think so.

I get it Tommy because he's a Patriot: but I'm sure You thought Sauce who's better than Gonzo ain't worth Two First Rounders.
 

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