NFL News Belichick not voted into the HOF

[FreeTedWilliams]

Any HOF that relies on the media to vote people in is going to be flawed, people they media likes will get in when they don’t belong (Dungy) and people they don’t like (BB, Schilling) who are obvious HOFers won’t.


If Kraft had any loyalty he would not accept enshrinement and refuse to play in the HOF game.

 

[borg]

MY FANTASY

A delegation from the old days (think Coach Vrabel, Edelman, Light, Ernie, Scott Pioli, Dante, maybe Big Bill) goes to Belichick and Kraft and says: "Guys, enough is enough. If there's one thing that this shows, it's that it's time to bury the hatchet. There are too many haters outside New England without Patriots Nation fighting itself!"

Coach Belichick comes to Super Bowl practice, speaks to the team, sits in the Owners Box, takes applause from the fans ...

Can you imagine?

Two thoughts......

 

[Steve102]

I doubt he does. The HOF matters to him and way too many guys he actually respects are part of it. He doesn't want to be on the outside looking in on it with the guys like Taylor, Brown, all his players he loves, guys like Johnson etc.

He also knows that Walsh, Lombardi , Gibbs and the others weren't first ballot. My guess is it bothers him less than it bothers us.

 

[upstater1]

They say what people across the nation want to hear and choose to believe, to make themselves feel better(Sound familiar?.......)

There has always been league resentment and jealousy of Bob Kraft, for his swooping in, saving the Patriots, and being successful right away.

Bill Belichick was supremely unpopular with the media since his stint in Cleveland.

Tom Brady was belittled and dismissed since college.

All these three facts, along with the most successful modern sports dynasty they created, though they contributed, amazingly, are not the genesis of the greatest unwarranted imposition of an unfair competitive disadvantage in team sports history.

THAT would be local Boston media's negatively biased denigration maligning its pro football team admittedly owned by cheap people but nevertheless successful and genuinely lovable with heroic, blameless and high performance high character players. The false laughingstock narrative originating in 1970 with the consummation of the merger, was picked up nationally and has continued to grow to this day, 56 years later.

Fran Tarkenton in 1974 or O.J. Simpson in 1976 getting tossed out of games after starting fights because the Patriots had the temerity to be competitive on the field.

The Patriots being a national joke because their coach was planning his exit while his team was headed for the playoffs - which only 5 teams in each conference qualified for at that time.

The 'hapless' Patriots of 1981. 1981...the sole losing season for the Patriots in a stretch of 13 years.

The Patriots weren't 'supposed' to go to the Super Bowl in 1985. The nation didn't 'want' it.

"The Patriots embarrassed the league."-Paul Tagliabue, 1990. Not themselves, but the league. And not the Giants or Cowboys, who actually abused female reporters trying to do their jobs and not ogling half naked black players.

The Patriots returning to the Super Bowl in 1996 was not the story, but their coach (again) plotting his exit during the playoffs.

The false cheating allegations and criticism and denigration of the Patriots' success hit a crescendo the very instant the Tuck Rule was called.

And the commissionership of Dodger Fraudell six years later is all it took to corroborate and validate all of the crying and nonsensical false cheating allegations increasingly blathered those six years.

And it never stopped, the league spending $millions to again oppress the Patriots who did nothing, as opposed to next to nothing seven years prior.

This explains everything.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

He also knows that Walsh, Lombardi , Gibbs and the others weren't first ballot. My guess is it bothers him less than it bothers us.

Ohh I think it bothers him, BB been kicked around a lot this last few years and not being a first ballot HOFer is a kick to the nuts for him.

I bet he is the one that leaked that he didn’t get in. He is pissed and hopefully he takes it out on the NFL and begins to divulge a bunch of its dirty little secrets.

Yeah, the NFL told us coaches to not divulge players with concussions.

Yeah, the BFL told us to hold token black hiring interviews.

Yeah, nobody believed in this social justice crap.

He could do a lot of damage in the week heading into the Superbowl, I hope he goes scorched earth in the NFL!

 

[Steve102]

Ohh I think it bothers him, BB been kicked around a lot this last few years and not being a first ballot HOFer is a kick to the nuts for him.

I bet he is the one that leaked that he didn’t get in. He is pissed and hopefully he takes it out on the NFL and begins to divulge a bunch of its dirty little secrets.

Yeah, the NFL told us coaches to not divulge players with concussions.

Yeah, the BFL told us to hold token black hiring interviews.

Yeah, nobody believed in this social justice crap.

He could do a lot of damage in the week heading into the Superbowl, I hope he goes scorched earth in the NFL!

I don't see him doing that. Too much love for the game. He knows all the dirty **** the league has done, but he keeps it to himself.

 

[condon84]

I don't know if anybody saw Jimmy Johnson's interview with Cowherd, but he goes in. He also thinks Kraft has something to do with this snub

 

[SVN]

 

[Ring 6]

w/o Starr as starting QB, Vince is 19-11-2 for a win/loss percentage of 0.633.

Well that just isn’t true.
I listed the numbers above
Those are Lombardis career w/l record and Starrs record for the years Lombardi was his coach.

Lombardi coached 164 games. Starr started 113 of them.
His record without Starr has to include 51 games, you only accounted for 32.
You numbers are not right.

 

[The Gr8est]

This explains everything.

IMO Spygate was overblown, and Deflategate was invented out of whole cloth, because the rest of the league could not beat the Pats on the field and were tired of their dominance. I’m thinking this was driven by the other owners.

The fact that BB was curmudgeonly just made it so much easier for people to accept the narrative.

People who claim the Pats cheated and put asterisks at the end of Pats, are showing how butt hurt the are that their teams failed and need an excuse to make themselves feel better.

In truth there SHOULD be an asterisk at the end of the Pats name. If would signify that the Pats are the only team so dominant that the rest of the league cheated to bring them back to the pack.

 

[Kasmir]

I doubt he does. The HOF matters to him and way too many guys he actually respects are part of it. He doesn't want to be on the outside looking in on it with the guys like Taylor, Brown, all his players he loves, guys like Johnson etc.

He just might decline. IMO he should. His presence in the HoF will be forever tainted and asterisked. Why not give the ultimate finger to the press that he despises so much? His refusal to participate will be historic and forever focus attention on the pettiness of those who chose to punish him rather than doing their jobs.

 

[ViperGTS]

IMO Spygate was overblown, and Deflategate was invented out of whole cloth, because the rest of the league could not beat the Pats on the field and were tired of their dominance. I’m thinking this was driven by the other owners.

The fact that BB was curmudgeonly just made it so much easier for people to accept the narrative.

People who claim the Pats cheated and put asterisks at the end of Pats, are showing how butt hurt the are that their teams failed and need an excuse to make themselves feel better.

In truth there SHOULD be an asterisk at the end of the Pats name. If would signify that the Pats are the only team so dominant that the rest of the league cheated to bring them back to the pack.

It's a lot deeper than that. It is a national disdain for anything New England especially sports wise. Look at the Chiefs? They had a decade run, and a lot of people including a majority of the media are still saying "Thank you Mahomes, may I have another"?

Contrast that with the Pats in their run, see the difference?

 

[mike_usagisan]

I don't see him doing that. Too much love for the game. He knows all the dirty **** the league has done, but he keeps it to himself.

I can see him making a small snide comment or something when he does get inducted.

 

[Steve102]

I can see him making a small snide comment or something when he does get inducted.

100%

 

[neckroll#14]

For sure he respects the history of the game and what the HOF means (or should mean), but how many **** sandwiches does the guy have to eat before he simply turns his back on the game he loves (or loved)? All of the "gates", the piling on about his UNC record, his 20-something GF... he's rich, wants for nothing, and after a tough day the old goat crawls in the sack with Jordan. Does he need to be validated by the now-tainted HOF selection committee? He's a spiteful character. He might give them all the middle finger...

 

[upstater1]

I don't see him doing that. Too much love for the game. He knows all the dirty **** the league has done, but he keeps it to himself.

He does it because he still thinks his kids will have a career.

And because the league will hold it against the reputation of the Patriots during the Dynasty.

I know Kraft must feel the same way since he hasn't been elected, and Kraft doesn't want the team turned into Al Davis's Raiders rebel outfit, and that's smart, but when he tips over to the other side by blackballing Belichick from jobs or making that film, he encourages people like Polian to do what they do.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Seeing all the reaction the last few days, in some ways this was maybe a blessing for him. For the last few year now it's been so in style to discredit him and disrespect his status as a true legend of the game. The last few days have been a massive outpouring of giving him his flowers. TBH, if he got voted in ho-hum first ballot it probably would have produced more idiotic think-piece pushback stories continuing to disrespect his legacy and standing in the game. Instead, with the snub, it's totally reframed all the discussion on him to defending his legacy instead.

 

[upstater1]

In a way, next week's Super Bowl is going to be a great vindication for Kraft and the franchise if they win. It's 2007 all over again, the cinderella shoe is on the other foot this time.

A Patriot win will mean a lot.

 

[Jackson 2]

Seeing all the reaction the last few days, in some ways this was maybe a blessing for him. For the last few year now it's been so in style to discredit him and disrespect his status as a true legend of the game. The last few days have been a massive outpouring of giving him his flowers. TBH, if he got voted in ho-hum first ballot it probably would have produced more idiotic think-piece pushback stories continuing to disrespect his legacy and standing in the game. Instead, with the snub, it's totally reframed all the discussion on him to defending his legacy instead.

Right on the money.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I don't see him doing that. Too much love for the game. He knows all the dirty **** the league has done, but he keeps it to himself.

Kind of like J E Hoover's files at the FBI that held the dirt on all the politicians. Too bad his secretary burned them all on his death. Maybe BB will release his......if he has them written down.