PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots Beat Titans 31-13

[uknepatsfan]

This is a quarterbacks league and we most definitely have one.

 

[uknepatsfan]

If the Patriots go on to establish another dynasty, I fear a mass exodus of football fans in despair. That means countermeasures by the NFL ala deflategate etc. Just saying.

I was thinking this watching Maye yesterday. It’s apparent that he is going to take over Josh Allen’s mantle very soon and if he stays healthy he’s going to be an alpha QB in this league! Not good news for the rest of the league if it becomes Dynasty part 2

 

[farn]

I was thinking this watching Maye yesterday. It’s apparent that he is going to take over Josh Allen’s mantle very soon and if he stays healthy he’s going to be an alpha QB in this league! Not good news for the rest of the league if it becomes Dynasty part 2

“it’s apparent… mantle very soon…”

Sounds a bit like the passing of a certain tourch…

 

[Triumph]

Giants scored 32 and lost.

Crazy game.

 

[Triumph]

Not writing him off, just concerning that he was out snapped by someone called up from the practice squad.

I'm surprised that the Pats haven't thrown Hendo the ball more. Get him out in space.

He gets swallowed up running between the tackles.

 

[Real fan 02]

We now need the Chargers to beat the Colts, Giants to beat Denver and Seattle to beat Houston.

Road to the #1 seed continues.

Chargers continue to be frauds, Colts are for real, Denver is for real, Houston is meh.. aren't we like 2nd in the AFC at 5-2 behind indy?...

 

[Huckleberry1]

Nice road win.

The game day thread is pretty unreadable. 31-13 win, Maye 21/23, 175 yes rushing. 4 sacks, one for a fumble TD, and an INT. 0 turnovers. But from the GD thread, it was a disaster.

60 minutes.

The game day thread was unreadable????

I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked!

 

[KCSVEN]

Was a big fan of Maye at North Carolina, he was my #1 QB for the draft and I posted a lot of reasons why in the draft forum. Obviously the natural arm talent and scrambling ability was to die for. His shortcomings were well documented as being footwork and accuracy which made him a a very talented QB but with flaws so to speak. Never in my expectations did I predict to see him solve them this quick. It’s almost unfair to have a QB with prototypical size and arm strength develop pin point accuracy. 78% completion percentage is pretty insane. Starting to wonder if he can break Drew Brees’s single season record of 74% in just his second year?

I think it's more related to poor scouting report vs a major change by Maye. If you had to build an NFL QB in a lab, Drake Maye would be pretty close to the guy that would come out of that lab.

This is the first year in college or pros where the O Line is not complete trash, where the OC is not terrible. Yeah, he's gotten better with playing experience, but he looks mostly like college Drake Maye to me, just a better supporting cast.

I have no idea where the idea he was inaccurate in college came from. Wasn't from watching tape.
I get there was a play or 2 here and there but overall accuracy was elite in college. He sailed like 5 balls in 2 years, and a few of them looked like might have been throwaways.
Never saw a college QB have to throw into so many small windows since his receivers couldn't get open.
On deep balls he might have been the most accurate college QB of all time. I had him down for 80% accuracy on deep balls in college, 40%-50% would be considered good.

 

[amfootball]

The Tampa game could decide league MVP ...

 

[patsinthesnow]

The pats win total is -145 o10.5, they are +170 to win the division & Maye is 4th in MVP odds. They need to add at the deadline.

 

[patchick]

This is a quarterbacks league and we most definitely have one.

Whoa, just had a flashback…I think it was right after the 2019 AFCCG. An unusually good Chiefs fan poster who had been hanging around here before the game returned to offer glum congratulations. I remember telling him that a young franchise QB was the most valuable commodity in sport, and he was in for a good time ahead.

Now it feels like that here.

 

[reflexblue]

Was a big fan of Maye at North Carolina, he was my #1 QB for the draft and I posted a lot of reasons why in the draft forum. Obviously the natural arm talent and scrambling ability was to die for. His shortcomings were well documented as being footwork and accuracy which made him a a very talented QB but with flaws so to speak. Never in my expectations did I predict to see him solve them this quick. It’s almost unfair to have a QB with prototypical size and arm strength develop pin point accuracy. 78% completion percentage is pretty insane. Starting to wonder if he can break Drew Brees’s single season record of 74% in just his second year?

Yeah, but i'll take it

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I think it's more related to poor scouting report vs a major change by Maye. If you had to build an NFL QB in a lab, Drake Maye would be pretty close to the guy that would come out of that lab.

This is the first year in college or pros where the O Line is not complete trash, where the OC is not terrible. Yeah, he's gotten better with playing experience, but he looks mostly like college Drake Maye to me, just a better supporting cast.

I have no idea where the idea he was inaccurate in college came from. Wasn't from watching tape.
I get there was a play or 2 here and there but overall accuracy was elite in college. He sailed like 5 balls in 2 years, and a few of them looked like might have been throwaways.
Never saw a college QB have to throw into so many small windows since his receivers couldn't get open.
On deep balls he might have been the most accurate college QB of all time. I had him down for 80% accuracy on deep balls in college, 40%-50% would be considered good.

I think there was alot of manufactured negative takes on maye pre draft in an effort to get him to fall in the draft or have someone trade down. In other words complete BS. Even seeing how he looked last year, he was a total no brainer for the top 3. any gm on a qb needy team that passed on him other than for Williams/Daniels or traded down would be a firable offense.

 

[Clonamery]

I think it's more related to poor scouting report vs a major change by Maye. If you had to build an NFL QB in a lab, Drake Maye would be pretty close to the guy that would come out of that lab.

This is the first year in college or pros where the O Line is not complete trash, where the OC is not terrible. Yeah, he's gotten better with playing experience, but he looks mostly like college Drake Maye to me, just a better supporting cast.

I have no idea where the idea he was inaccurate in college came from. Wasn't from watching tape.
I get there was a play or 2 here and there but overall accuracy was elite in college. He sailed like 5 balls in 2 years, and a few of them looked like might have been throwaways.
Never saw a college QB have to throw into so many small windows since his receivers couldn't get open.
On deep balls he might have been the most accurate college QB of all time. I had him down for 80% accuracy on deep balls in college, 40%-50% would be considered good.

Did you watch his Pro Day?

 

[FCB02062]

Was at my oldest daughter's softball tournament all day yesterday so have not had a chance to chime in (had to watch on DVR). Wow, what a performance again from Maye. McDaniels still drives me ****ing crazy sometimes, but Maye is flourishing under his coaching. Every week he makes a few plays that just leave your jaw on the floor. After a not so great week one, I was one who was saying if Maye does not show improvement by mid season it may be time to go back into the draft. Wow, not only has he shown improvement - he's jumped into another stratosphere.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

and perhaps it will take another year for him to develop to be a key 3rd down back.

Hope so! James White was buried his rookie year.

 

[KCSVEN]

Did you watch his Pro Day?

Yeah, I watched every throw on pro day, multiple times, watched every throw in college multiple times.

I remember Rick Spielman was at the pro days and said, after watching Daniel's pro day and then Mayes, that there was no way Daniels goes before Maye. That convinced me Washington was taking Maye, since he had worked for Washington Just that off season. I was quite depressed until word started leaking that they were drafting Daniels instead.

Maye's level of difficult in his pro day was way higher than Daniels and Williams. He sailed 1 ball early and then just blew away the field. Simulated blitzes, off balance throws, moving the pocket, 65-yard bomb perfectly placed.

Pro Days are kind of overblown in terms first round picks against air because they should hit every throw.
How can you tell if they can process? Go thru reads, hit tight windows? At least Maye made the throws a higher level of difficulty.

Better to watch every throw in college games though to get a real feel.

 

[n1997y]

The Tampa game could decide league MVP ...

Tampa game is week 10. Beware of week 11 as a big time trap game possibility. It’s playing the hapless Jets on TNF so a short week after Tampa Bay. With the Jets perfectly positioned to pull a huge upset.

Two games will be very influential for MVP voting:

Week 10 (11/9) NE @ TB
Week 15 (12/14) BUF @ NE

Both are presently 1pm games. Both seem likely candidate to be flexed into primetime.

Week 10 the possible flex slots for NE @ TB are currently filled by:
TNF *** can’t be flexed for week 10 ***
4:05 AZ @ SEA on CBS (12 days notice required) <- !!! Likely flex *
SNF PIT @ LAC (12 days notice required)
MNF PHL @ GB *** can’t be flexed for week 10 ***

* Fox has LAR @ SF and DET @ WAS at 4:25. Pats 1pm games are on CBS and I assume the 4pm flex would stay on same network.

Week 15 the possible flex slots for BUF @ NE are filled by:
TNF ATL @ TB (21 days notice required)
4:25 GB @ DEN on CBS (6 days notice required)
4:25 IND @ SEA on CBS (6 days notice required)
SNF MIN @ DAL (6 days notice required)
MNF MIA @ PIT (12 days notice required) <- !!! Likely flex *

* Fox has CAR @ NO and TN @ SF at 4:25. Both might be candidates to be flexed to move Pats into primetime but Pats 1pm games are on CBS and I am not sure about rules on cross-network flexes. Don’t think it’s possible but if it is 6 days notice would be required. Games can be flexed to MNF so that looks most likely. If Pats are still rolling the Bills game will be headline matchup much more than MIA.

 

[Clonamery]

Yeah, I watched every throw on pro day, multiple times, watched every throw in college multiple times.

I remember Rick Spielman was at the pro days and said, after watching Daniel's pro day and then Mayes, that there was no way Daniels goes before Maye. That convinced me Washington was taking Maye, since he had worked for Washington Just that off season. I was quite depressed until word started leaking that they were drafting Daniels instead.

Maye's level of difficult in his pro day was way higher than Daniels and Williams. He sailed 1 ball early and then just blew away the field. Simulated blitzes, off balance throws, moving the pocket, 65-yard bomb perfectly placed.

Pro Days are kind of overblown in terms first round picks against air because they should hit every throw.
How can you tell if they can process? Go thru reads, hit tight windows? At least Maye made the throws a higher level of difficulty.

Better to watch every throw in college games though to get a real feel.

Not true.

My point is you cannot fault some questions about his mechanics/accuracy but despite that, none of that "talk" overwhelmed the good that was talked about.

He's shown that he is coachable, a hard worker and a team first-leader guy.

 

[KCSVEN]

Not true.

My point is you cannot fault some questions about his mechanics/accuracy but despite that, none of that "talk" overwhelmed the good that was talked about.

He's shown that he is coachable, a hard worker and a team first-leader guy.

What?

With nine Patriots staffers in attendance, Maye solidified himself as a top-three overall player in this draft on Thursday. He did so by showing what he does best, airing it over 60-plus yards from moving pockets and different platforms/arm angles with ease. His drive throws on seams, in-breakers, and skinny posts were on his receivers in a hurry, and Maye's deep ball was excellent once he settled into the 70-throw script.

Maye can flat-out spin it, and the degree of difficulty far exceeded what we saw in Baton Rouge a day earlier from Daniels. That's not to say the reigning Heisman Trophy did poorly or that Maye was perfect because the UNC quarterback had two erratic misses on deep outs early. However, Maye's coaches were simulating pressure by "blitzing" him to move him off his spot, forcing him to throw off-platform, adding as much of a challenge as possible in this setting to stay on time and throw accurately.

Team executives and coaches were also impressed by the workout. Along with the Patriots top decision-makers, Commanders head coach Dan Quinn and general manager Adam Peters stood next to head coach Jerod Mayo and director of scouting Eliot Wolf for the entire session. It was almost like those four men knew Maye wasn't making it past them.

After watching him hit go-to receiver Tez Walker in stride on a 65-yard bomb, my immediate thought was, "How do the Commanders pass on this guy at No. 2 overall?" Washington, who controls the Patriots destiny in this draft, could fall in love with Daniels' dual-threat ability. But when it comes to who has more clubs in their bag, there's no question that Maye brings a much bigger repertoire of throws to the table as a pure passer.

Commanders adviser Rick Spielman thinks Drake Maye will go before Jayden Daniels

An interesting perspective from someone with recent ties to the Commanders.

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