PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP Patriots Practice Reports - August 11

[Steve102]

Wonder what changed for the kickers today. Maybe they did something to the balls to make it difficult for the holders? Can't be as simple as both took suck pills today.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think for an established team, it is 100% true. For a team like the Patriots with new coach/system, I think you can Get a little more out of how camp is perceived.
Thye are changing offense 100% but also a different style on defense as well.
Last year reports were terrible in camp and played out that way. Hopefully the more positive vibes out of camp will translate this year.

Your right there. I was just eluding to the fact that not every practice is doom or gloom nor is every practice picture perfect like reports will lead us to believe. What I gathered is the team is tough, we'll coached and don't make the same mistakes over and over.. going back the past few off seasons I'd saw the teams headed in the right direction.

 

[borisman]

Did he score or was there a Leon Lett moment?

 

[PatsFan2]

Did he score or was there a Leon Lett moment?

4.8 speed right there.

 

[borisman]

Borregales slipped a 20 to the snapper to to hike it low to Romo

First time I've heard about the long snapper all summer.

 

[Vindicate]

How do we feel about Baringer?

 

[Real fan 02]

Is it just me or are there a lot of injuries this camp?

Players seem to have been kept out of practice for precautions when dealing with something.. Davis, Gonzo, Hollins, james, Diggs... Larsen and dial are the only guys on IR.. hoping it doesn't pile up..

 

[jlu52]

How do we feel about Baringer?

I like him. He's not Ray Guy, but he hangs the ball well, and ranks highly in his inside the opp. 20 yd. line punts. Not expensive yet, he's good for me for now.

 

[Ring 6]

Great in practice disappear in games. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

That’s not a fair statement on Baker. He only played 51 snaps all year before 38 in a game we tried to lose.
He couldn’t get snaps theoretically because he didn’t know the offense.

I wouldn’t think judging some on 50 snaps over 4 months when he doesn’t know the offense is fair.

Judge him for being too dumb, but gotta get him in the forms to determine if practice doesn’t translates to the field

 

[Pape]

I think that while "being drafted" isn't a tiebreaker, contract status has to play a part. If Romo wins the job, he's a free agent after this year. If Borregales wins the job, he's got at least 4 years left on his deal for very cheap money. Granted, Romo would be an RFA so they kind of still own his rights for next year, for all intents and purposes, and he'd still be cheap, but ultimately it is still 2 years vs 4 years.

They're both pretty young (Romo 25, Borregales 22) so I don't think age really factors in.

that is a great point Ross... despite what Coach Springer said, that is exactly why the draft status matters...

 

[Ross12]

Wonder what changed for the kickers today. Maybe they did something to the balls to make it difficult for the holders? Can't be as simple as both took suck pills today.

Yeah, when both guys have been good and then today they both suck, there's gotta be a reason. I'm guessing they were doing some sort of situational work. Purposeful bad snaps or holds, short clocks to rush the kick, wet ball - something.

 

[PatsFan2]

That’s not a fair statement on Baker. He only played 51 snaps all year before 38 in a game we tried to lose.
He couldn’t get snaps theoretically because he didn’t know the offense.

I wouldn’t think judging some on 50 snaps over 4 months when he doesn’t know the offense is fair.

Judge him for being too dumb, but gotta get him in the forms to determine if practice doesn’t translates to the field

Not holding my breath AJ; my patience have ran out.

 

[Ring 6]

Not holding my breath AJ; my patience have ran out.

I dint blame you just saying it’s failing to earn opportunity not really failing with the opportunity.

What was your assessment of him when he was drafted last year?

 

[Zuma]

Not holding my breath AJ; my patience have ran out.

Bourne. Believe in it and it will become true.

 

[Ring 6]

I think that while "being drafted" isn't a tiebreaker, contract status has to play a part. If Romo wins the job, he's a free agent after this year. If Borregales wins the job, he's got at least 4 years left on his deal for very cheap money. Granted, Romo would be an RFA so they kind of still own his rights for next year, for all intents and purposes, and he'd still be cheap, but ultimately it is still 2 years vs 4 years.

They're both pretty young (Romo 25, Borregales 22) so I don't think age really factors in.

I think being drafted matters to the point where you chose this guy as the best K in the draft and have long range expectations.
Romo has to be clearly better to say we will keep the guy who showed up and had a good camp over the guy we evaluated and felt worthy of being our K long term.

Borregales would have to show them they were wrong to get cut. He hasn’t done so to my knowledge

 

[Ring 6]

Bourne. Believe in it and it will become true.

I’d definitely rather have Bourne playing WR than Hollins.
Not even close.

 

[PatsFan2]

I dint blame you just saying it’s failing to earn opportunity not really failing with the opportunity.

What was your assessment of him when he was drafted last year?

To be honest I thought he was Brian Thomas Jr. lite; that guy below. But Teams miss on WR's all the a time; the position have a Huge Bust percentage. We have another in Slow Polk unfortunately.

Brian Thomas Jr. Career Stats - NFL - ESPN

Complete career NFL stats for Jacksonville Jaguars Wide Receiver Brian Thomas Jr. on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.

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[Zuma]

I’d definitely rather have Bourne playing WR than Hollins.
Not even close.

But Hollins has averaged 1.5 receptions per game over his career.

 

[TommyD4207]

How do we feel about Baringer?

He was the damned offensive MVP last year. He gets another year in my book.

 

[TommyD4207]

Not holding my breath AJ; my patience have ran out.