Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

[The Gr8est]

AVP is the only coach I 100% think SHOULD be back next year - Maye has developed a ton this year, to the point where I think he's set up to be the best of this draft class when all is said and done; if his arc continues on a track reasonably close to what it has been so far, he's the top QB from this draft hands down........a couple of the others have come into a situation better than Maye's, and have better overall stats, but the tools & skillset Maye has shown so far will move him to the head of that class rather quickly.........looking at where he was when drafted and where he is at now, his development has been top notch.......someone has brought him along quite nicely - conservative playcalling aside, that's gotta bode well for AVP

I agree that Maye appears to be the best QB from this draft.

A redraft would be interesting.

Would the Bears still take Williams #1?

 

[Love The Drake]

I agree that Maye appears to be the best QB from this draft.

A redraft would be interesting.

Would the Bears still take Williams #1?

I don’t see how they could I’ve see enough of Williams to know with rosters swapped Maye would be in the playoffs.

 

[Steve102]

Six wins by now is what I said.

I thought they'd have a honeymoon period where they would have a run like last year's Raiders. Instead, it's very Rod Rustian. The team looks poorly coached and not prepared. My concern is who do they turn to who can better prepare the team, to coin a phrase, so they know the answers to the tests.

 

[The Gr8est]

I thought they'd have a honeymoon period where they would have a run like last year's Raiders. Instead, it's very Rod Rustian. The team looks poorly coached and not prepared. My concern is who do they turn to who can better prepare the team, to coin a phrase, so they know the answers to the tests.

Not only poorly coached, poorly owned.

 

[Love The Drake]

I thought they'd have a honeymoon period where they would have a run like last year's Raiders. Instead, it's very Rod Rustian. The team looks poorly coached and not prepared. My concern is who do they turn to who can better prepare the team, to coin a phrase, so they know the answers to the tests.

Vrabel and Josh McDaniels would be a power couple
if we land them I would hope to Keep AVP mentoring Drake.

 

[Love The Drake]

I feel we need to get the Rooney interviews out the way Chicago is way ahead on prep if they want Vrabel.
We would need to make our intentions to him known asap.
It may help is that I would think Vrabel and McDaniels would prefer us over Chicago.

 

[The Gr8est]

Vrabel and Josh McDaniels would be a power couple
if we land them I would hope to Keep AVP mentoring Drake.

Would Vrabel’s and McDaniels’ connection to BB work against them coming to NE?

It would remind Kraft how much he wasn’t responsible for the dynasty.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

I really don’t understand your point at all. I’m “soft” because I might not want to watch a team that almost completely doesn’t even try, led by coaches that have no idea what they’re doing and just point fingers at each other, and I really should be watching because the QB is good and he makes some good plays sometimes? That’s worth 4 hours of my weekend every week for 17 weeks?

I’m all for supporting plucky losers, bad teams who are trying their best. But have a hard time supporting a team who couldn’t care less themselves.

No offense Ross but this is literally just being a fairweather fan lol

 

[Grogan1980]

I feel we need to get the Rooney interviews out the way Chicago is way ahead on prep if they want Vrabel.
We would need to make our intentions to him known asap.
It may help is that I would think Vrabel and McDaniels would prefer us over Chicago.

Another “positive” for an incoming HC is that it would seem very unlikely to have another one and done regime if that’s what happens this year…. We just want to see incremental improvement, and leaders we actually see lead.

 

[Ross12]

No offense Ross but this is literally just being a fairweather fan lol

I think there’s a massive distinction.

As I’ve said many times already I have no problem watching if they are simply bad because they are bad. A bad team trying their best and failing is certainly watchable and worth supporting.

A team who is bad because they do not try to be anything else should bring consideration on whether they are worth supporting.

 

[203Pat]

Maye is making it awkward for team Mayo by going to bat for AVP by crediting him for his improvement.

Mayo has made a few comments now about Van Pelt being the head coach of the offense and I think he even once called the offense "those guys" which seemed to read to me that Mayo isn't as tied in with the offensive guys as he is the defense. Maybe I am reading too much into it but I am not sure how much time Mayo and Maye spend together one on one or even in smaller groups. If that is the case it is reasonable to assume Drake and AVP are closer than Drake and Mayo are and with Van Pelt being a former quarterback there could be a better connection there.

 

[Ross12]

Ross, I understand your frustration with this team, which I share. But one would think being a moderator/site staff member here, you are obligated to watch the games.

Am I? lol Couldn’t I simply be here while they go on to monitor? Catch the stats later? Didn’t say I was going anywhere.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

I think there’s a massive distinction.

As I’ve said many times already I have no problem watching if they are simply bad because they are bad. A bad team trying their best and failing is certainly watchable and worth support.

A team who is bad because they do not try to be anything else is worth considering whether they are worth supporting.

I don't think you could make that distinction though. You don't really know the effort everyone in the organization is making. You just gotta stick through it and take the good with the bad. Bad teams come in many different shapes and sizes. Our "bads" just happen to be personnel oriented.

 

[Love The Drake]

If we end up firing Mayo and not hitting our HC target that would suck.

 

[Ross12]

I don't think you could make that distinction though. You don't really know the effort everyone in the organization is making. You just gotta stick through it and take the good with the bad. Bad teams come in many different shapes and sizes. Our "bads" just happen to be personnel oriented.

I know because I’ve watched it for a season. That’s why I’m saying this would only be if they kept things as they are. If they fired Mayo then of course this would be different.

 

[The Gr8est]

I know because I’ve watched it for a season. That’s why I’m saying this would only be if they kept things as they are. If they fired Mayo then of course this would be different.

We have a potentially great young QB and are at a crossroads.

The future will determine if the Krafts can be considered HOF worthy owners by what they do going forward.

The Pats could be a future juggernaut or a mismanaged dumpster fire.

Choose well, Bob.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

I know because I’ve watched it for a season. That’s why I’m saying this would only be if they kept things as they are. If they fired Mayo then of course this would be different.

Eh. I think there are players and coaches who are trying their best. They may suck, but they're trying their best. I'm not gonna let the incompetency of the FO and HC get in the way of rooting for em

 

[Ross12]

Eh. I think there are players and coaches who are trying their best. They may suck, but they're trying their best. I'm not gonna let the incompetency of the FO and HC get in the way of rooting for em

Yeah I am not going to try to convince anyone else what to do. And of course this is not a blanket judgement - some players and coaches do care, like Maye and Springer. But far too much of the org and the product it puts out on the field right now just screams “We’re doing the football stuff, give us your money now.” Performative, not competitive.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Yeah I am not going to try to convince anyone else what to do. And of course this is not a blanket judgement - some players and coaches do care, like Maye and Springer. But far too much of the org and the product it puts out on the field right now just screams “We’re doing the football stuff, give us your money now.” Performative, not competitive.

I got ya and for what it's worth we're all probably way overanalyzing what you meant as an off-hand comment. We've all been there. I said this last week in the GDT after the first holding penalty in the first drive that I wasn't gonna bother watching the rest of the game. But there I am. Like a freaking dunce watching this hotdog water team ruin my Sunday again

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Any attempt to portray this roster as anything but a total mess, utter garbage, pathetic collection of "talent", etc. is misguided. Mayo is exhibiting plenty of decisions and qualities worthy of heavy criticism on their own merits, so there's no need to make up narratives that this team has pieces to be competitive.

Sure, there are talented players. It's pro sports. Every player in the league has some level of talent. Look around the NFL and tell me which team has less talent in totality though...

Our OL... horrific. Everyone can see that. The C is a practice squadder. The OTs are fringe roster guys, not even fringe starters. Onwenu is fine but the other guard spot has been a rotating door of rookies and 2nd year players who either won't be in the league long (at worst) or just aren't ready to start now without some seasoning (at best).

The receiving options... terrible. Bourne is probably solid next year with another year of recovery under his belt but like many guys in year 1 back from injury he's a shell of himself. Polk looks like a mega-bust so far. Boutte is a roster-worthy guy, but I dare anyone to try and argue he should be atop anyone's depth chart. Same for Douglas. Henry/Hooper is an ok duo at TE, nothing more.

Stevenson and Gibson are roster-worthy players, but not very good.

Maye is obviously great for a rookie, still just a rookie though.

People went gaga for White after some splash plays but he's not a consistently good player. Jennings/Wise are JAGs. Every team has some uber athletes like White now. Overall our group of edge defenders is not good.

With Barmore stll recovering from a serious health scare, the DT rotation has been mostly Godchaux who is just solid and a bunch of practice squadders. Not a good unit.

Our LB core might be worst in the NFL.

Our Safeties are ok on paper but not a single one of them can cover the deep part of the field which is... kind of important at the safety spot.

Gonzo is terrific, but we don't have a capable starting OUTSIDE CB opposite him. We're forced to play the Jones's out of position there.

There is not a single thing you can point to that this team is equipped to do well. Not a single position group is good enough to cover up for any other position group.