The 1st pick in the draft is ONE pick better than the SB winner.

[sb1]

Truth hurts.

It was the Brady dynasty. The QB did it all his team didn't matter.

 

[Wozzy]

Truth hurts.

It was the Brady dynasty. The QB did it all his team didn't matter.

 

[sb1]

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Not sure what that has to do with the fact (not opinion, fact) that it was all Brady. That's because the QB is everything. His team didn't matter.
Take Brady away and you get a 2-9 team and a coach whose defense literally proved they can't stop another team in the playoffs. The QB did it all.

 

[Wozzy]

Not sure what that has to do with the fact (not opinion, fact) that it was all Brady. That's because the QB is everything. His team didn't matter.
Take Brady away and you get a 2-9 team and a coach whose defense literally proved they can't stop another team in the playoffs. The QB did it all.

 

[sb1]

They don't need Brady as much as the coach apparently does.

#ItAlwaysWasAllBrady #TeamDoesntMatter #YourLogic

 

[archstanton543]

Archstanton laughs at my every post, he laughed at me earlier in the season when I said “Mac sucked” and people were still arguing he was good and the team was bad.

Now Mac is a quivering jellyfish, is he agreeing when he laughs or disagreeing, he doesn’t say anything, he just laughs… odd?

That's what you're supposed to do with clowns, right? Laugh?

 

[Ring 6]

Doesn’t matter whether they get the first pick or the 15th again… the only desperate need on this team is a QB.

Other than the ones they can fill with 105 mill of cap space

 

[Wozzy]

That's what you're supposed to do with clowns, right? Laugh?

Is Mac still good... asking for a friend?

 

[vicspats]

Yes, a top 5 pick is important. Folks seem to think that we have advantages throughout the draft, We do not.

After the first pick, the worst team picks one AFTER the Super Bowl winner throughout the draft (ignoring trades and comp picks). Let's say we are the 1st pick and PHI is pick 32.
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1. NE gets the first pick.
2. PHI gets 32, NE get 33.
3. PHI gets 65, NE gets 66
4. PHI gets 97, NE gets 98 (actually lower because of comp picks.
4. PHI gets last in the 4th, patriots get first in the 5th (the next pick)
and so on.
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BOTTOM LINE
After the results of the first pick, we have slightly less draft resources than the SB winner.

We are kidding ourselves if we think that we make a meaningful step toward the SB by drafting a WR or OT at 4 or 5. There is only one FAST step toward being a good team: getting a top QB. To me, FAST to me means 2-3 years. .

Yes, a top 5 pick is important. Folks seem to think that we have advantages throughout the draft, We do not.

After the first pick, the worst team picks one AFTER the Super Bowl winner throughout the draft (ignoring trades and comp picks). Let's say we are the 1st pick and PHI is pick 32.
============
1. NE gets the first pick.
2. PHI gets 32, NE get 33.
3. PHI gets 65, NE gets 66
4. PHI gets 97, NE gets 98 (actually lower because of comp picks.
4. PHI gets last in the 4th, patriots get first in the 5th (the next pick)
and so on.
===============
BOTTOM LINE
After the results of the first pick, we have slightly less draft resources than the SB winner.

We are kidding ourselves if we think that we make a meaningful step toward the SB by drafting a WR or OT at 4 or 5. There is only one FAST step toward being a good team: getting a top QB. To me, FAST to me means 2-3 years. .

100% correct … AND the possibility of a bust that high is very hard to recover from. That’s why trading down and getting more picks is the way to build the roster. There is ample of proof of other teams for years drafting top 15, and yet it doesn’t relate to wins .. or dare I say Super Bowls …I’m going out on a limb and say the qbs drafted in the top 15 over the last say 20 years … 50% of them were complete busts. Not even a .500 winning record. Lots of draft capital wasted on one guy. Definitely a crap shoot

 

[archstanton543]

Is Mac still good... asking for a friend?

He will be on another team.

 

[vicspats]

QB's mean everything to the offense and their team doesn't matter at all. That's why it was all Brady.

Except for that one time … when Law decided to get 3 ints against that other guy from Indy

 

[billdog3484]

Yes, a top 5 pick is important. Folks seem to think that we have advantages throughout the draft, We do not.

After the first pick, the worst team picks one AFTER the Super Bowl winner throughout the draft (ignoring trades and comp picks). Let's say we are the 1st pick and PHI is pick 32.
============
1. NE gets the first pick.
2. PHI gets 32, NE get 33.
3. PHI gets 65, NE gets 66
4. PHI gets 97, NE gets 98 (actually lower because of comp picks.
4. PHI gets last in the 4th, patriots get first in the 5th (the next pick)
and so on.
===============
BOTTOM LINE
After the results of the first pick, we have slightly less draft resources than the SB winner.

We are kidding ourselves if we think that we make a meaningful step toward the SB by drafting a WR or OT at 4 or 5. There is only one FAST step toward being a good team: getting a top QB. To me, FAST to me means 2-3 years. .

This is some weird *** rationale. Top picks, if selected wisely, are franchise changing, elite talents. To disregard that is kind of ridiculous .

 

[Wozzy]

He will be on another team.

That's what posters told me about Cam when he went to Carolina in 2021... now he's out of the league.

But let's revisit this later, should be funny...

 

[archstanton543]

That's what posters told me about Cam when he went to Carolina in 2021... now he's out of the league.

But let's revisit this later, should be funny...

Cam was at the very end of his career. Mac is not.

 

[Wozzy]

Except for that one time … when Law decided to get 3 ints against that other guy from Indy

If not for AdamV, a kicker, Brady has two fewer rings today... but it was all Brady.

It's a special kind of stupid.

 

[Wozzy]

Cam was at the very end of his career. Mac is not.

Mac sucks, he might be better ten years from now when he learns a lot more about being a pro... like Geno Smith.

 

[vicspats]

Cam was at the very end of his career. Mac is not.

Maybe

 

[Wozzy]

Maybe

Now that's ^ funny.

 

[mgteich]

This is horrible logic. If you go by that NFL draft score chart, the #1 team has something like 4,000 total points and the #32 team has something like 1,100 total points. You are literally saying "take away 3,000 points from the #1 team, and they're practically the same!!"

Fact is that in every round, the #1 pick is 31 spots ahead of the Super Bowl winner (ignoring trades). That is a HUGE difference.

miss on your #1 pick and your resources are LESS than that of the SB winner

 

[mgteich]

This is horrible logic. If you go by that NFL draft score chart, the #1 team has something like 4,000 total points and the #32 team has something like 1,100 total points. You are literally saying "take away 3,000 points from the #1 team, and they're practically the same!!"

Fact is that in every round, the #1 pick is 31 spots ahead of the Super Bowl winner (ignoring trades). That is a HUGE difference.

Some look for one player to make all the difference with their top 10 pick.

Others use the value chart and get 2-4 players.