Marino had 26 turnovers in 18 postseason games. He was really awful in the losses: 10 games, 15 TDs & 19 INTs. Massive dud in the '85 AFCCG against the Patriots at home... only completed 41% of his passes. A win there would have setup an epic rematch with the Bears and would have been back-to-back SB appearances for Marino. Instead he lost and never sniffed another SB.
Tony Eason threw 12 passes in the 85' AFCCG, Dan Marino threw 48... and that was when 48 passes was a lot.
The Patriots ran the ball 59 times, the Phins ran it 13 times... thanks for proving my point for me.
When you pass too much by design, your team is unbalanced and you'll usually play poorly. Ask Tom Brady, last season in the playoffs Joe Burrow led the entire postseason with 109 passes in three games, Mahomes was second with 100 passes in three games... Tom Brady played one game and passed it 66 times... not surprisingly he lost. He wanted Arians gone so he could do what he wanted, he got what he deserved at that point. When he was a Patriot and with the Buc's in 2020 he had a power rushing attack to support him.
I said the
end of the game. You're giving me the last several drives like I didn't watch the game. I'm specifically talking about the 40-yard completion to Gronk on 4th-10 with 1:34 left in the game and the 4th down TD pass to Gronk with 0:12 left. Not impressed with either of those? You're turning into
@SHOWTIME15.
I don't know the poster you're referring too, but I suspect you're comparing me to him for some effect or to garner support.
And no, there are no moral victories in losses. The Broncos defense made Tom Brady look human and your silly QB unicorn theory look foolish.
Teams win rings, not individual players. Tom Brady doesn't need blocking, until he does. Otherwise known as the old Patriot QB ball washing maxim;
"Tom Brady is responsible for everything, unless they lose... then it's everyone else's fault."
Good for them, honestly, but the only one who really counts is Stafford. The other two weren't brought in as starters. Dilfer also won with an all time top 5 defense. Foles was handed his ring on a platter by Belichick.
That's why your premise is silly. It accepts or dismisses whenever it's convenient... like Joe Flacco wasn't a franchise caliber QB, but magically for one season he played at that level, then miraculously was pushed down with the average joes once again... even though that season wasn't his best statistical season by any measure.
And yeah... Foles was
"handed a ring," Belichick was responsible for Foles winning all three of his playoff games. The stupidity of this statement is bolstered by the fact that Carson Wentz was the NFL MVP before he got hurt and Foles took over, if he never got hurt Wentz would have won a Super Bowl MVP as well and you'd have to twist yourselves into pretzels explaining how an average QB like Wentz won it all. Both Wentz and Foles are unemployed right now btw, any team in the league can have one of these franchise caliber QB's if they want them.
But apparently you missed the point... Brady is the only QB in the history of the NFL to win a Super Bowl in his first season as a starter for two franchises.
Well he didn't start as a rookie like Mac or Josh Allen did, so there's that. Beyond that he joined exceptional teams and added to them, gave them exactly what they needed from that position... he became part of the team. You can't provide one example of an average team winning a Super Bowl, so this conversation is predictably droll.
Because of two examples in the history of the league? Besides, Rodgers was the best QB in 2020, without question. Allen and Mahomes also had better seasons than Watson in 2020. And several QBs had a better season than Brees in 2016... Brady (should have won MVP), Ryan (won MVP), and Rodgers to name a few obvious ones.
Two examples?
Drew Brees led the entire NFL in passing three years in a row, 2014, 2015, 2016, he was arguably the best QB in the NFL.
He won 7 games, 7 games, 7 games.... why did the best QB in the league only win 7 games for three years in a row?
Oh yeah, because his defenses were ranked 32nd, 31st and 32nd in points allowed.
Your magical QB theory is sht.
It fell apart in the 2021 division round when Bowles had his defense not covering Cooper Kupp for two plays in a row in the final minute of the friggin game. 2022 was a calamity of misfortune and historically bad coaching for the Bucs. The Patriots stopped winning after Brady left.
The Buc's shouldn't have been playing man coverage, they should have been in prevent.
The Patriots lost after they flipped their entire roster and started a rebuild. One season removed from 2020 they went to the playoffs with a rookie QB.
If BB hadn't made the boneheaded decision to hire Patricia to run the offense, or if McDaniels stayed or Obie arrived a season earlier... they would have made the playoffs again in 2022. Then you'd be telling us they couldn't win a ring without Tom, rather than simply making the playoffs two years in a row.
Talk about pathetic and dumb. This is right out of the insanity message board playbook of
@SHOWTIME15. For Christ's sake, think about what you just said.
Again, I don't know this person, and you're trying to rally support around other posters hatred of him. It's a team game, if Brady chose the Raiders over the Bucs in 2020 he'd never see another ring.
You're losing focus... that is Brady's career September record. I said with the Patriots... so 41-16. He never had a losing September record in New England despite BB's brilliance of extending training camp to October 1. Don't you realize how ridiculous it is to praise an NFL head coach for treating a quarter of the season as practice?
When you win as much as the Patriots did you lose free agents for big dollars, you have a hard time retaining rookies once their first contracts end, you have a hard time retaining coaches who other teams insist some of that genius must have rubbed off on them... so no, treating the first month as an extension of preseason is not ridiculous, it's the result of attrition due to winning.
Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rogers... all these guys sat and watched their rookie seasons. Otherwise we'd have seen typical growing pains we see from rookies all the time. Tom was a doughy out of shape 211 pound rookie the same way Mac was, I suspect he would have started strong and lost gas 3/4's of the way through just like Mac did... this isn't college ball. But you believe in fairy tales...