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Mid-Season 2024 QB draft class rankings
Went and watched multiple games of the 2024 QB draft class to come up with my current ranking and status of each QB
Rankings:
1: Maye
2: Daniels
3: Williams
4: Rattler
5: Penix
6: Nix
Incomplete: Mccarthy
Drake Maye-Been over this a ton but MVP type season, him and Darnold should be the front runners. Followed by Allen, Stafford and Mayfield with Jackson as a possible contender in the 2nd half. Mahomes being the favorite for MVP is living off his past. In 2023, 2024 and 2025 he might not even be in the top 5 QB’s any of those years based on tape.
Daniels: What a difference a year makes. He was not as good on tape as the stats last year. He had some accuracy issues on a regular basis but really made some clutch throws and big time throws in 2024 when he needed them. His accuracy in college was subpar, his accuracy last year was average but much better than anticipated on the deep balls. This year he looks like his college tape. Accuracy has been pretty bad.
Teams try to take away the plays he likes to throw and make him throw ones he doesn’t do as well. Kingsbury offenses tries to give QB’s easy first read type plays. Look at the stats of Kyler Murray and Jayden Daniels age 24 years in Kingsbury’s offense:
Amazing similarity. Pretty similar level of QB. He still does best when escaping the pocket, if you can get some pressure AND keep him in the pocket he’s a disaster. When he escapes the pocket he’s dangerous, though his accuracy has been worse this year than last. The issue is he’s a poor pocket passer but escaping the pocket leads to hits and injuries. Kyler Murray career path so far, means second contract that team will want out of as he nears 30.
Williams-He’s got the OC now so can’t blame the coaching and he has been better this year thanks to Ben Johsnon. His biggest issue n poor processing. 1 read, not open, run around. He has a quick release, good arm strength, throws OK off balance but realized looking at tape he guns it a little too often, He has shown some touch on a few passes when he needs it but since he reads defense so poorly he tends to need to rifle it in since not a ton of good anticipation throws, this tends to cause more drops. Long ball accuracy stinks. The release, the arm strength, the intermediate accuracy should be enough to keep him as the starter. He’s been OK but Ben Johnson has to cover for his poor processing ability. I will say the receivers have issues separation against man and that’s making him hold the ball too long. Very surprised how poor the separation was regularly. Odunze had poor separation data vs man in college and that’s a very telling stat in terms of transferring to the pros. MHJ was similarly underwhelming vs man in college and been only OK in the pros.
HOW IS RYAN POLES STILL THE GM? The Bears could have had Drake Maye, Brock Bowers and Emeka Egbuka ( I assume they would have drafted lower in 2025 with Maye and Bowers in 2024) instead of Williams, Odunze and Colston Loveland.
Example of WTF processing by Williams. See photos below: Looks right at wide open guy, does not throw, rolls right, now same guy is open and maybe a TD if he looks back. Never does.
Rattler-I’ll be shocked if Rattler doesn’t stick around the NFL for a decade. He’s got Ryan Fitzpatrick but slightly better vibes all over him. His best game was vs Pats and then has kind of fallen off a bit. Very quick release, throws with some anticipation. Has some accuracy issues down the field. Good, not great arm. He processes half decently. I believe he could be a respectable starter in the right system. Not talented enough to be THE GUY but good enough to win on the right team. There are probably 10 worse starters in the NFL but being #20 is at best is meh. Good backup on a contending team assuming he has the attitude for that. College rep for attitude was not great but seems to have turned that around. Tyler Shough looks half decent, probably a better prospect with more upside so interesting to see where Rattler end sup down the line.
Penix-I watch tape and see a lot of good things, but something just seems off. Took me awhile to realize he can’t throw with anticipation, at all, and he can’t throw off balance. When he stands in the pocket and can get a clean throw it’s a thing of beauty. It is what can fool you into thinking he could be a good QB. In Colts game had a nice touch pass on TD to London but you don’t see that often from him. He makes way too many bad passes. Way too many bad reads. If you put his highlight tape up looks like an NFL QB. He’s currently not a starting level NFL QB. His accuracy is so hit or miss it is terrible. His team looks poorly coached which does not help him. Example of the Penix fail: Overtime throws vs Colts. Clean pocket, WR running and out turns the CB around, open by several yards, Penix just misses the throw. Easy first down missed. Next play bailed out by illegal contact. Next pass from clean pocket but decides to throw falling away. WR is open on an out but leads him 2 yards out of bounds. Should be first down. Last play O line fails to pick up stunt (bad coaching) on 3rd and 12 and free looping rusher sacks him. Not his fault but should never have been 3rd and 12. The Penix experience.
Bo Nix-Terrible, been over this in other threads. Don’t see it happening with him, he’s holding that team back so much. Can’t throw a ball past 5 yards accurately, can’t read a defense. Other than that, he’s great! Even people that have a friendship with Payton are saying he might want to draft a QB next year. He amazingly got worse from last year to this year. BUST!
J.J. McCarthy-Easily the hardest QB prospect to analyze due to lack of tape in college. Still the same with his injury history. He was what people said Drake Maye was: a talented player but very raw. Needs to learn a ton. Showed a bit of inaccuracy vs Ravens. Seems to put a lot of effort into throws and likes to throw hard, lacks touch. He Had 5 batted balls vs Ravens. Long way to go and already behind due to time missed. Definitely looking bust more than boom so far but so raw and need to see him the rest of the year.
Williams play mentioned earlier as example of his WTF processing skills.
Went and watched multiple games of the 2024 QB draft class to come up with my current ranking and status of each QB
Rankings:
1: Maye
2: Daniels
3: Williams
4: Rattler
5: Penix
6: Nix
Incomplete: Mccarthy
Drake Maye-Been over this a ton but MVP type season, him and Darnold should be the front runners. Followed by Allen, Stafford and Mayfield with Jackson as a possible contender in the 2nd half. Mahomes being the favorite for MVP is living off his past. In 2023, 2024 and 2025 he might not even be in the top 5 QB’s any of those years based on tape.
Daniels: What a difference a year makes. He was not as good on tape as the stats last year. He had some accuracy issues on a regular basis but really made some clutch throws and big time throws in 2024 when he needed them. His accuracy in college was subpar, his accuracy last year was average but much better than anticipated on the deep balls. This year he looks like his college tape. Accuracy has been pretty bad.
Teams try to take away the plays he likes to throw and make him throw ones he doesn’t do as well. Kingsbury offenses tries to give QB’s easy first read type plays. Look at the stats of Kyler Murray and Jayden Daniels age 24 years in Kingsbury’s offense:
Amazing similarity. Pretty similar level of QB. He still does best when escaping the pocket, if you can get some pressure AND keep him in the pocket he’s a disaster. When he escapes the pocket he’s dangerous, though his accuracy has been worse this year than last. The issue is he’s a poor pocket passer but escaping the pocket leads to hits and injuries. Kyler Murray career path so far, means second contract that team will want out of as he nears 30.
Williams-He’s got the OC now so can’t blame the coaching and he has been better this year thanks to Ben Johsnon. His biggest issue n poor processing. 1 read, not open, run around. He has a quick release, good arm strength, throws OK off balance but realized looking at tape he guns it a little too often, He has shown some touch on a few passes when he needs it but since he reads defense so poorly he tends to need to rifle it in since not a ton of good anticipation throws, this tends to cause more drops. Long ball accuracy stinks. The release, the arm strength, the intermediate accuracy should be enough to keep him as the starter. He’s been OK but Ben Johnson has to cover for his poor processing ability. I will say the receivers have issues separation against man and that’s making him hold the ball too long. Very surprised how poor the separation was regularly. Odunze had poor separation data vs man in college and that’s a very telling stat in terms of transferring to the pros. MHJ was similarly underwhelming vs man in college and been only OK in the pros.
HOW IS RYAN POLES STILL THE GM? The Bears could have had Drake Maye, Brock Bowers and Emeka Egbuka ( I assume they would have drafted lower in 2025 with Maye and Bowers in 2024) instead of Williams, Odunze and Colston Loveland.
Example of WTF processing by Williams. See photos below: Looks right at wide open guy, does not throw, rolls right, now same guy is open and maybe a TD if he looks back. Never does.
Rattler-I’ll be shocked if Rattler doesn’t stick around the NFL for a decade. He’s got Ryan Fitzpatrick but slightly better vibes all over him. His best game was vs Pats and then has kind of fallen off a bit. Very quick release, throws with some anticipation. Has some accuracy issues down the field. Good, not great arm. He processes half decently. I believe he could be a respectable starter in the right system. Not talented enough to be THE GUY but good enough to win on the right team. There are probably 10 worse starters in the NFL but being #20 is at best is meh. Good backup on a contending team assuming he has the attitude for that. College rep for attitude was not great but seems to have turned that around. Tyler Shough looks half decent, probably a better prospect with more upside so interesting to see where Rattler end sup down the line.
Penix-I watch tape and see a lot of good things, but something just seems off. Took me awhile to realize he can’t throw with anticipation, at all, and he can’t throw off balance. When he stands in the pocket and can get a clean throw it’s a thing of beauty. It is what can fool you into thinking he could be a good QB. In Colts game had a nice touch pass on TD to London but you don’t see that often from him. He makes way too many bad passes. Way too many bad reads. If you put his highlight tape up looks like an NFL QB. He’s currently not a starting level NFL QB. His accuracy is so hit or miss it is terrible. His team looks poorly coached which does not help him. Example of the Penix fail: Overtime throws vs Colts. Clean pocket, WR running and out turns the CB around, open by several yards, Penix just misses the throw. Easy first down missed. Next play bailed out by illegal contact. Next pass from clean pocket but decides to throw falling away. WR is open on an out but leads him 2 yards out of bounds. Should be first down. Last play O line fails to pick up stunt (bad coaching) on 3rd and 12 and free looping rusher sacks him. Not his fault but should never have been 3rd and 12. The Penix experience.
Bo Nix-Terrible, been over this in other threads. Don’t see it happening with him, he’s holding that team back so much. Can’t throw a ball past 5 yards accurately, can’t read a defense. Other than that, he’s great! Even people that have a friendship with Payton are saying he might want to draft a QB next year. He amazingly got worse from last year to this year. BUST!
J.J. McCarthy-Easily the hardest QB prospect to analyze due to lack of tape in college. Still the same with his injury history. He was what people said Drake Maye was: a talented player but very raw. Needs to learn a ton. Showed a bit of inaccuracy vs Ravens. Seems to put a lot of effort into throws and likes to throw hard, lacks touch. He Had 5 batted balls vs Ravens. Long way to go and already behind due to time missed. Definitely looking bust more than boom so far but so raw and need to see him the rest of the year.
Williams play mentioned earlier as example of his WTF processing skills.
