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Bill has demonstrated an ability to keep the pass defense good while rotating CBs and not really paying guys who aren't top tier talents at the position (like Gilmore was), he hasn't demonstrated a similar ability to keep the passing game effective without talent. Meyers has been their best offensive player in the post-Brady era, it's fine if you don't think he's 14-16 million a year good, but to just wave away his production and assume Bill can fill that spot easily sounds kinda foolish to me. My guess is if he's gone you'll miss him every time they punt after an incompletion on third and 6.
When we Draft and hit on one which has been a very long time you'll be very happy.
 
If this BR Projection on FA deals for Meyers, J. Jones, Harris is anywhere close, then I think the Pats may keep all 3. And I hope they do.
If Meyers only gets max offers at $12M/yr, then I think the Pats win. He's the glue and longest tenured skill position on the team.
Jones is in the same boat in the secondary, especially if DMac stays done. We've had too many top CB's walk the last 2 years.
And Harris - not RB1 anymore, but super valuable and a rising leader. Not to mention Mac's best/oldest friend. The way Rham broke down by week 12, we need a solid 2-back tandem.
 
If this BR Projection on FA deals for Meyers, J. Jones, Harris is anywhere close, then I think the Pats may keep all 3. And I hope they do.
If Meyers only gets max offers at $12M/yr, then I think the Pats win. He's the glue and longest tenured skill position on the team.
Jones is in the same boat in the secondary, especially if DMac stays done. We've had too many top CB's walk the last 2 years.
And Harris - not RB1 anymore, but super valuable and a rising leader. Not to mention Mac's best/oldest friend. The way Rham broke down by week 12, we need a solid 2-back tandem.
CB Jon Jones could possible get poached by a contender looking for a very good Slot CB. Jon Jones played well on the outside last year but we know he's much better suited in the Slot.
 
Bill has demonstrated an ability to keep the pass defense good while rotating CBs and not really paying guys who aren't top tier talents at the position (like Gilmore was), he hasn't demonstrated a similar ability to keep the passing game effective without talent. Meyers has been their best offensive player in the post-Brady era, it's fine if you don't think he's 14-16 million a year good, but to just wave away his production and assume Bill can fill that spot easily sounds kinda foolish to me. My guess is if he's gone you'll miss him every time they punt after an incompletion on third and 6.
The issue is though that it's basically saying we should overpay for a guy who isn't really worth what he'll get because we've been so bad at the position. I'd rather just cut our losses and figure out how to actually invest in the position and if we do splurge, splurge on someone who make a substantial difference.
 
The issue is though that it's basically saying we should overpay for a guy who isn't really worth what he'll get because we've been so bad at the position. I'd rather just cut our losses and figure out how to actually invest in the position and if we do splurge, splurge on someone who make a substantial difference.
Who's saying we should overpay? Guys that make a substantial difference aren't generally available as free agents, are you willing to give out a first rounder+ on top of a 24 million a year contract to one of those kinds of players? I would be, but that being the scenario is what makes retaining Meyers at about 13-15 million APY attractive. Not to mention you can't have an offense built around one top tier weapon without at least a couple of competent complementary receivers around him.

Now, I'm not arguing for giving him 18 million dollars, just that this fan base seems to want to convince themselves a consistent 65-80 catch 750-850 yard receiver is easy to come by because in their minds Meyers is already gone, and they aren't all that easy to find.
 
Eventually we'll need a WR at least as good as Higgins. But if you want to be really good, you simply must hit on your draft picks.
Over the years we've hear it's the system, it's the playbook, all thses excuses of why we can't seem to draft WRs.. I know there was a report that BB continued to ignore the draft scouts when selecting WRs..

All that may have some merit, bit we simply just need to start hitting on our WRs.. Thornton I believe we have something.. this kid showed he can play in a make-believe offense last season.. he will have real coaching and scheming now to his abilities.
 
CB Jon Jones could possible get poached by a contender looking for a very good Slot CB. Jon Jones played well on the outside last year but we know he's much better suited in the Slot.
Agreed, reports were that teams are viewing him more as a slot CB.. may or may not affect his value.. he did play well on the outside... but when matched up with alpha #1WRs Diggs, Jefferson... wasn't a contest
 
The issue is though that it's basically saying we should overpay for a guy who isn't really worth what he'll get because we've been so bad at the position. I'd rather just cut our losses and figure out how to actually invest in the position and if we do splurge, splurge on someone who make a substantial difference.
The issue is Myers is the best free agent wide receiver on the market and 12 million is a damn good price for what he provides. Sure, they should try to find someone better in the draft too, but Myers has been solid and 12 isn't a lot of money for a good WR.
 
If we switched out Brandon Lafell and replaced him with Meyers in 2014...Meyers would be the same player as LeFell and we would all be praising him. All of us. Meyers hasn't had the same supporting cast that Lafell did. Meyers also had a clown for an OC in 2022.
 
The issue is though that it's basically saying we should overpay for a guy who isn't really worth what he'll get because we've been so bad at the position. I'd rather just cut our losses and figure out how to actually invest in the position and if we do splurge, splurge on someone who make a substantial difference.
The market determines what a player is worth $12 - $14 for a number two receiver is just what the market has dictated not an overpay.

Meyers isn’t a number one receiver and they could still conceivably splurge on a number one receiver and bring Meyers back at $12 - $14. Meyers salary isn’t a splurge though it’s just number two money in the current climate (provided what has been reported about his cost is accurate)
 
The issue is though that it's basically saying we should overpay for a guy who isn't really worth what he'll get because we've been so bad at the position. I'd rather just cut our losses and figure out how to actually invest in the position and if we do splurge, splurge on someone who make a substantial difference.
Is it an overpay? Based on who's criteria? Certainly not based on the current market value of wrs...
 
If we switched out Brandon Lafell and replaced him with Meyers in 2014...Meyers would be the same player as LeFell and we would all be praising him. All of us. Meyers hasn't had the same supporting cast that Lafell did. Meyers also had a clown for an OC in 2022.
I get what you're saying, but a better comparison is Jabar Gaffney. LaFell was an outside guy. I have nothing against him as a player. He is what he is. What I have a problem with is the Pats featuring too much as the #1 option which just isn't going to cut it.
 
The issue is Myers is the best free agent wide receiver on the market and 12 million is a damn good price for what he provides. Sure, they should try to find someone better in the draft too, but Myers has been solid and 12 isn't a lot of money for a good WR.
The issue is he's going for way more than 12 million. People are kidding themselves if they think that's what he's getting.
 
The issue is he's going for way more than 12 million. People are kidding themselves if they think that's what he's getting.
I thought he was going to get 15-17 but then Giardi tweeted the 12 - 14 number. I don’t think it’s outrageous to believe the most recent sourced information.
 

The contract idea in this article is 68/4 40 million guaranteed.

This is what I've been mentioning. If the team can get Meyers 30-35M guaranteed with a team out after two years, that would be a good bridge until a real #1 is available, probably next year.

The length of the contract is irrelevant. It's guaranteed money and the cap hit after two years. It seems workable close enough.

Unless they pick up a Hopkins type, the WR room will be horrible without Meyers.
 

The contract idea in this article is 68/4 40 million guaranteed.

This is what I've been mentioning. If the team can get Meyers 30-35M guaranteed with a team out after two years, that would be a good bridge until a real #1 is available, probably next year.

The length of the contract is irrelevant. It's guaranteed money and the cap hit after two years. It seems workable close enough.

Unless they pick up a Hopkins type, the WR room will be horrible without Meyers.
Even if they pick up a Hopkins type, they'd have him and Parker which in my estimation are redundant players and Kendrick Bourne, who can play inside, but is more of a seam/vertical/drive threat from that spot, not the guy who gets open and catches a six yard pass on third and five.

People severely underestimate Meyers, he has more receiving yards in his four seasons as a Patriot than Deion Branch did, and that's with Mac and Cam at QB for his three most productive seasons. I don't see why you need to get rid of him in order to improve at the position through the draft or a trade, just pay him, he provides continuity and is a proven player in this offense.
 
Even if they pick up a Hopkins type, they'd have him and Parker which in my estimation are redundant players and Kendrick Bourne, who can play inside, but is more of a seam/vertical/drive threat from that spot, not the guy who gets open and catches a six yard pass on third and five.

People severely underestimate Meyers, he has more receiving yards in his four seasons as a Patriot than Deion Branch did, and that's with Mac and Cam at QB for his three most productive seasons. I don't see why you need to get rid of him in order to improve at the position through the draft or a trade, just pay him, he provides continuity and is a proven player in this offense.
Meyers is a WR2 and IMO people want him gone only because he isn't WR1 which I find absurd. Should every team get rid of their WR2 then? Meyers is a solid and reliable receiver that can't easily be replaced.
 


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