Tom Brady says he's done "for good"

[Triumph]

This deserves it's own thread.

Bill Russell, Tom Brady, and Bobby Orr are the easy ones.

Bobby Orr was the GOAT.

Gretsky says that when he signs that someone always comes up and says "you know that you aren't the GOAT."

Gretsky always replies "you're from Boston aren't you?"

 

[Triumph]

oh, he was at times a questionable human being for sure

Mantle who every Kid wanted to be was a drunk.

 

[1960Pats]

First of all, if there is any "&" its Bird. But I assume you are doing this by sport only. Second I would put Ortiz over Martinez after Ted. Ortiz played in Boston twice as long and Martinez. DO WAS the face of the team for many years. His "This is Our fkkking City" alone makes him a much better candidate to represent the face of Boston.

I broke balcoball into hitting and pitching and Ted beats Ortiz easily.

 

[1960Pats]

Bobby Orr was the GOAT.

Gretsky says that when he signs that someone always comes up and says "you know that you aren't the GOAT."

Gretsky always replies "you're from Boston aren't you?"

My favorite story of that type came when the NHL all star game was played at the Garden. One of the announcers asked an elderly Bruins fan how it felt to have the Great One playing there. She replied that the Great One (Orr) already retired.

 

[Triumph]

My favorite story of that type came when the NHL all star game was played at the Garden. One of the announcers asked an elderly Bruins fan how it felt to have the Great One playing there. She replied that the Great One (Orr) already retired.

Orr was unstoppable if the other team didn't send their Goon to beat him up.

 

[oldrover]

LOVE this list, but Saltimachia?????????????????? There HAS to be a 39 in our history that's better than a back up catcher. ANYONE?????

I nominate Sam "Bam" Cunningham.

 

[1960Pats]

The Celts are a hard one.

Red coached to 9 Championships and then took over as GM and kept winning. Kept finding coaches and players. The Larry Bird story is classic Red. He went to see Bird play in college and Red knew that the media would be watching his every move. So, after a few minutes Red got up and left Birds game as if he was not impressed at all. Then he signed Bird before anybody else.

Another great move was trading the 1st pick to Golden State for Robert Parish and the 3rd pick, which gave them Kevin McHale. The Warriors coveted Joe Barry Carroll. That along with the Bird move made the Celts instant contenders.

 

[1960Pats]

I nominate Sam "Bam" Cunningham.

Great choice.

 

[yukon cornelius]

The Celts are a hard one.

Red coached to 9 Championships and then took over as GM and kept winning. Kept finding coaches and players. The Larry Bird story is classic Red. He went to see Bird play in college and Red knew that the media would be watching his every move. So, after a few minutes Red got up and left Birds game as if he was not impressed at all. Then he signed Bird before anybody else.

the thing about boston, you could do a legit rushmore just with coaches and have it be all-time

start with:
bill
red


then you've got a lot to debate lol

 

[RobertWeathers]

the thing about boston, you could do a legit rushmore just with coaches and have it be all-time

start with:
bill
red


then you've got a lot to debate lol

Celtics: Red
Red Sox: Tito
Bruins: Art Ross or Claude
Pats: BB

 

[Steve102]

the thing about boston, you could do a legit rushmore just with coaches and have it be all-time

start with:
bill
red


then you've got a lot to debate lol

I started a rushmore thread if you guys want to move it over there.

 

[yukon cornelius]

I started a rushmore thread if you guys want to move it over there.

done

 

[1960Pats]

Anyway, back to Brady.

The Brady Chronology. If I missed anything or have anything wrong feel free to jump in.

2000 – The Pats drafted Brady at #199 upon the insistence of QB coach **** Rehbein (RIP), who had scouted him and expressed his belief that in 20 years everyone would know his name. Boy was he spot on.

2001 thru 2004 – After starter Drew Bledsoe went down in game #2 in 2001, both losses, Brady got his chance and made the best of it, leading the team to an 11-3 record the rest of that season and winning 3 SBs with a 9-0 playoff record in those 4 years. He also helped the team get a record 22 game winning streak

2005 thru 2013 – In spite of not winning the SB Brady helped the Pats get there two more times, once flirting with a perfect season. They were still exciting and pretty successful but things didn't work out for them during that stretch. It was also the time of the most crushing loss that the Pats ever had. I still have friends that don't want to think and talk about it, but in my mind it was worth it to have a dominant 20 years.

2014 thru 2019 – These were the years that Brady’s critics said he was going over the cliff. Man, were they wrong. Instead, Brady helped the Pats get to 4 SBs in 6 years and win 3 of them. These were also the years that Brady had to battle the NYFL over a phony cheating charge while at the same time dealing with his mom’s cancer and possibly a poor marriage.

2020 thru 2022 – In Brady’s golden years all he did was take the previously inept Bucs to the playoffs each season and win another SB, his 7th, more than most teams in NYFL history.

Thanks Tom.

 

[sb1]

That's awesome. Expected nothing less.

I'd love to see him take one more live snap so his last play as a Patriot will be a much better memory than what it is right now. I'm sure Mac will understand.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

The 2019 team had deteriorated to not good enough as fallout of going all in.
Had Brady stayed the 2020 team would have undoubtedly been worse, because there was no money to bring in any players.
The 2021 free agent spending that got them back to the playoffs would have been $50 million less (about 12 instead of 62) had Brady stayed so there would have been more degrading of the roster.
Could the team have been better with Brady and a deteriorating roster than without him? Maybe. Would it have been a real SB contender? Not a chance.
I think we saw in Tampa this year what 2020-2022 would have resembled if Brady stayed.
Really the only reason to bemoan Brady leaving is being sad he didn’t play his whole career here, but there were not going to be any more rings, simple logic makes that obvious.

I've been saying the same thing for two years , don't count on many agreeing with you, most don't understand the economics.

 

[VectorPrime]

That's awesome. Expected nothing less.

I'd love to see him take one more live snap so his last play as a Patriot will be a much better memory than what it is right now. I'm sure Mac will understand.

I mean…Brady has to want to do this too lol. Unless Kraft has him kidnapped at gun point.

 

[sb1]

I mean…Brady has to want to do this too lol. Unless Kraft has him kidnapped at gun point.

If not then we can sign Cam Newton to a one day contract so he can retire as a Patriot.

He was such a Great Teammate (tm) and deep down I think we all want to give him the sendoff he deserves.

 

[RobertWeathers]

That's awesome. Expected nothing less.

This needs to happen. It's just the right thing to do - for everyone.

I'd love to see him take one more live snap so his last play as a Patriot will be a much better memory than what it is right now. I'm sure Mac will understand.

Meh. I don't think it'll change anything.

 

[Ring 6]

I've been saying the same thing for two years , don't count on many agreeing with you, most don't understand the economics.

I mean at the time I was on board with bringing him back to a weakened team and hoping for the miracle that they could limp to the playoffs and have him play ungodly but it wasn’t going to happen. They took a different route. The last 3 years may have been a little more successful but they weren’t winning SBs and they are better off now than if he had stayed and retired now.

 

[Steve102]

That's awesome. Expected nothing less.

I'd love to see him take one more live snap so his last play as a Patriot will be a much better memory than what it is right now. I'm sure Mac will understand.

I think everyone would love him to run down the sidelines one more time, yelling Let's Go!