Damar Hamlin Updates

[aluminum seats]

Bating?

The difference between 3,000+ men, women & children being massacred and one guy passing out?

Bating? Not at all. Wonder how you would make decisions. Let's leave it. I think your take is wrong but whatever.

 

[Brick27]

Hamlin is good now and on the mend. Time to move on.

 

[Ross12]

Damar is now making merchandise...:

‘We all won': Damar Hamlin launches ‘Did We Win?' shirts

Damar Hamlin said all proceeds of the shirt will go to first responders and the UC Trauma Center in Cincinnati, Ohio.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Patsfan1958]

 

[sb1]

I think this kid is now one of my favorite non Patriots players. Great stuff. What a journey.

 

[venecol]

I think we can lock this thread now that he's back home. Amazingly fast recovery. Good luck to him. Lucky dude (in that he lived).

 

[h0c2000]

Lol. He is still in the ICU. Nobody gets discharged from the ICU. 0% chance that he is in Orchard Park tomorrow.

Guess I was a day late and a dollar short with my reach prediction.

 

[venecol]

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Stopping the game was wrong and stupid; but if the Bills and/or Bengals didn't want to play they should have been given and accepted a forfeit.

 

[venecol]

Stopping the game was wrong and stupid; but if the Bills and/or Bengals didn't want to play they should have been given and accepted a forfeit.

You didn't even watch the game. Lol

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

You didn't even watch the game. Lol

So you read my post about how I heard.

I saw the replay. Yes, Both teams did not choose to continue.

Had I been there, and for some reason given the opportunity to speak to both teams, I would have succinctly described what I have already pointed out here. Now, if after that, one or both teams still chose not to continue, so be it. And the league would have proceeded as they have.

Nothing wrong at all for the concern, support, prayers and coverage of the event, the incident and its aftermath.

I'll repeat that I did see Stingley be paralyzed for life and very nearly sent to the morgue by a cheap shot from a renowned, actual cheap shot artist encouraged by his head coach and revered and celebrated for his regular actual cheap shots, in a preseason game at the same site where the single most egregious stolen championship given to the inferior team I ever saw or heard of twenty months earlier. Chuck Sullivan handled the situation in pretty much the worst possible way, in all respects. But they finished the game.

Further, I've seen many, many players knocked out of games in college and the pros, and in all the other sports, in person and on TV, and every single time play resumed after the player was taken off for medical treatment and I felt the same pit in my stomach that the mothers of those players felt at that time.

It is not happy or comfortable, but life is often not. We continue because life goes on. Failing to continue resulted in exactly what I expected days later, when Hamlin said exactly what I would have in the same situation:

"Who won the game?"

 

[venecol]

So you read my post about how I heard.

I saw the replay. Yes, Both teams did not choose to continue.

Had I been there, and for some reason given the opportunity to speak to both teams, I would have succinctly described what I have already pointed out here. Now, if after that, one or both teams still chose not to continue, so be it. And the league would have proceeded as they have.

Nothing wrong at all for the concern, support, prayers and coverage of the event, the incident and its aftermath.

I'll repeat that I did see Stingley be paralyzed for life and very nearly sent to the morgue by a cheap shot from a renowned, actual cheap shot artist encouraged by his head coach and revered and celebrated for his regular actual cheap shots, in a preseason game at the same site where the single most egregious stolen championship given to the inferior team I ever saw or heard of twenty months earlier. Chuck Sullivan handled the situation in pretty much the worst possible way, in all respects. But they finished the game.

Further, I've seen many, many players knocked out of games in college and the pros, and in all the other sports, in person and on TV, and every single time play resumed after the player was taken off for medical treatment and I felt the same pit in my stomach that the mothers of those players felt at that time.

It is not happy or comfortable, but life is often not. We continue because life goes on. Failing to continue resulted in exactly what I expected days later, when Hamlin said exactly what I would have in the same situation:

"Who won the game?"

Times have changed. Those players were in shock. Or maybe not since I was reading about the Lions-Bears game where the WR died on the field and they kept on playing (1 minute left), but the players, cheerleaders, everyone was in shock incl. the fans. I'm glad they refused to play. It's only a game.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Times have changed.

Obviously IMO, for the worse. One of the things I would have pointed out that night to the players is:

"You guys don't know me. But I don't work for the NFL. I don't care about revenue or scheduling. Money is sh*t to me.

We all care about and love our teammate and friend. We won't care any less about him no matter what we do. Giving up and going home, which I've never seen in sixty years of sporting events, won't help Damar. But how do you think he would feel if we didn't play. What would he say to you right now? This is life. We decide to stay strong, and face it."

 

[venecol]

Obviously IMO, for the worse. One of the things I would have pointed out that night to the players is:

"You guys don't know me. But I don't work for the NFL. I don't care about revenue or scheduling. Money is sh*t to me.

We all care about and love our teammate and friend. We won't care any less about him no matter what we do. Giving up and going home, which I've never seen in sixty years of sporting events, won't help Damar. But how do you think he would feel if we didn't play. What would he say to you right now? This is life. We decide to stay strong, and face it."

Some tried that. It didn't work. Several players were in shock. You can't control an image being imprinted in your mind and just turn it off like a light switch. We've learned a lot about mental health in the last few decades. This has nothing to do with being soft.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Some tried that. It didn't work. Several players were in shock. You can't control an image being imprinted in your mind and just turn it off like a light switch. We've learned a lot about mental health in the last few decades. This has nothing to do with being soft.

Well, that's at least sixty games I've seen that apparently should have been stopped and everyone sent home. Well, the Darryl game was preseason, so it wouldn't have affected the standings. The Ted Green/Wayne Maki thing was also preseason. For me, sitting and stewing over something traumatic is worse than playing and doing something active to help move on, put things in perspective and uh, not be soft.

 

[Brick27]

Huge asterisk season if the Bills win it this year. Or the Chiefs for that matter, when the Bengals deserved the forfeit win vs. Buffalo and the 1 seed.

 

[venecol]

Huge asterisk season if the Bills win it this year. Or the Chiefs for that matter, when the Bengals deserved the forfeit win vs. Buffalo and the 1 seed.

Why would the Bengals get the forfeit when they also refused to play? NFL cancelled the game. It never happened. Wiped off.

Why would there be an asterisk if Buffalo beats both CIN & KC in the playoffs?

 

[venecol]

Well, that's at least sixty games I've seen that apparently should have been stopped and everyone sent home. Well, the Darryl game was preseason, so it wouldn't have affected the standings. The Ted Green/Wayne Maki thing was also preseason. For me, sitting and stewing over something traumatic is worse than playing and doing something active to help move on, put things in perspective and uh, not be soft.

If Hamlin would've been concussed, had a bone sticking out of his skin, blood spurting from his head or any other gruesome football related injury, they would've continued to play.

Comparing a football injury to having to perform CPR for 9 minutes to bring one of your brothers back to life because his heart stopped and he wasn't breathing is not the same thing.

There's a firefighter on this thread that said he's witnessed family members suffering from trauma after going through this same experience.

The mind doesn't care about your age, sex, or toughness. These young men are trained to withstand pain and play a brutal sport not to deal with an unexpected traumatic event. The players did the right thing by refusing to play. Their brother possibly dying on the way to/at the hospital wouldn't leave their thoughts.

I get that as fans we want to be entertained, especially from the comfort of our couches. It certainly didn't look like the fans at the stadium that paid for tickets and were excited to see their team play live had any issue with what went on. You had 60k people sitting quietly for an hour, in shock. I doubt they were all soft.

I'm not going to judge any of these players for refusing to play. Only they knew what they were going through. I'm certainly not going to call them soft knowing the little I do about mental health.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

If Hamlin would've been concussed, had a bone sticking out of his skin, blood spurting from his head or any other gruesome football related injury, they would've continued to play.

Comparing a football injury to having to perform CPR for 9 minutes to bring one of your brothers back to life because his heart stopped and he wasn't breathing is not the same thing.

There's a firefighter on this thread that said he's witnessed family members suffering from trauma after going through this same experience.

The mind doesn't care about your age, sex, or toughness. These young men are trained to withstand pain and play a brutal sport not to deal with an unexpected traumatic event. The players did the right thing by refusing to play. Their brother possibly dying on the way to/at the hospital wouldn't leave their thoughts.

I get that as fans we want to be entertained, especially from the comfort of our couches. It certainly didn't look like the fans at the stadium that paid for tickets and were excited to see their team play live had any issue with what went on. You had 60k people sitting quietly for an hour, in shock. I doubt they were all soft.

I'm not going to judge any of these players for refusing to play. Only they knew what they were going through. I'm certainly not going to call them soft knowing the little I do about mental health.

It was sixteen minutes. This was not as bad as the Stingley incident. Ondrej Pavelec, Jordan Sigalet, Garrett Klotz - please don't pretend it's different because it's not the same sport. All of the concern and attention is great. Hard to believe Alexei Cherepanov would not be alive today if his treatment wasn't delayed if the ambulance hadn't left and had to be called back.

This was no more traumatic than any of the more than fifty incidents I've seen in football. The Bills just decided to be babies. I'm not disagreeing with your statement that 'times have changed'. I'm simply stating that it's for the worse.

 

[venecol]

It was sixteen minutes. This was not as bad as the Stingley incident. Ondrej Pavelec, Jordan Sigalet, Garrett Klotz - please don't pretend it's different because it's not the same sport. All of the concern and attention is great. Hard to believe Alexei Cherepanov would not be alive today if his treatment wasn't delayed if the ambulance hadn't left and had to be called back.

This was no more traumatic than any of the more than fifty incidents I've seen in football. The Bills just decided to be babies. I'm not disagreeing with your statement that 'times have changed'. I'm simply stating that it's for the worse.

The guy was dead.