Reiss: Jack Jones and Jake Bailey moved to "Reserve/Suspended"

[italian pat patriot]

For Bailey more or less i "accept" it but for JJ it is VERY different
When on the field he was great

I hope the 2 parts will resolve conflicts

 

[Toofy]

If accurate, leaving the team because the coach didn't call him is the very definition of immaturity. It's a job.

Maybe he did call him and it went to VM. Maybe he called him from an unknown #? Who knows.

Are you being serious or is this a Joke?

 

[Ross12]

I'm not understanding Miguel's tweet about them creating only $55k in cap space. Bailey's suspension voids his $2.1M in guaranteed salary next season. He has $790,000 in prorated bonus money for the next 3 years left on his deal. If all three of those accelerate onto 2023, that equals $2.37M (790K times 3). Bailey's current cap number for 2023 is about $3.4M due to his $2.1M guaranteed salary, $790K bonus proration and $540K in LTBE per-game roster bonuses. If he's released and his guaranteed salary and roster bonuses are voided, then all that's left is the 3 years of prorated bonus money accelerating onto 2023 which equals $2.37M, which to me appears to be a savings of $1M in cap space in 2023, plus obviously close to $4M saved in 2024 and again in 2025.

Not sure what I'm missing.

 

[Deus Irae]

They're now trying to suspend a player who feels a back injury hasn't sufficiently healed?

 

[Grogan14]

I seem to remember some potential red flags with Jones pre draft. Obviously some of those red flags were potentially good indicators of problems ahead.

I do not understand the Bailey issue. Isn't he allowed to decide on the advice of his own doctor when he is ready to play? He has to play when the Patriots doctor says he is ready?

 

[venecol]

Not a fan of these character assassinations that seem to always happen and are 100% one sided towards the players.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Will they be back in time for the super bowl?

 

[catent]

After listening to Henry say that Belichick called every player individually after MNF incident, JJ's just pissed Bill didn't call him. Can you blame him? That's rude.

Is this just sh*t slinging or is there anything to this? If Henry indicated BB called every player individually, why would we conclude he called every player except one in particular, and this led to the current situation? Short of evidence it seems like speculation.

The thing is, we don't have to speculate; we have actual evidence from informed reporters who are indicating that this isn't about a phone-call related to the Hamlin incident, but instead Jones skipping (apparently multiple) rehab appointments. There's no world in which that is OK. Am I missing anything else here?

 

[catent]

 

[RobertWeathers]

Are you being serious or is this a Joke?

My point is if the reason Jones left the team is because BB didn't call him, that means Jones has some maturing to do.

 

[Triumph]

Well, I love this team - have for a long time. Looks like they are consistently good at something

One thing is certain.

BB is back for 2023.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not a fan of these character assassinations that seem to always happen and are 100% one sided towards the players.

Why are you defending the player?

His job is to attend rehab. He is PAID for it.

Should you still get paid if you don't go to work?

 

[Triumph]

Real shame about both players.

Social media is the devil.

 

[Love The Drake]

Real shame about both players.

Social media is the devil.

 

[farn]

Why are you defending the player?

His job is to attend rehab. He is PAID for it.

Should you still get paid if you don't go to work?

Sadly, in 2023, it seems to be more & more common. You wouldn’t (or maybe you would) believe the things taking place at my work.

 

[PatsfanTN]

Not a fan of these character assassinations that seem to always happen and are 100% one sided towards the players.

100% towards the player? What if it’s true? That’s a pretty baseless statement by you with zero facts to back it up.

 

[Chevy]

One thing is certain.

BB is back for 2023.

If BB is able to continue honestly self-scouting the organization, then I trust him to make some good decisions. He'll make his share of head-scratchers, of course, but overall he'll bolster the weaknesses.

 

[RobertWeathers]

If BB is able to continue honestly self-scouting the organization, then I trust him to make some good decisions. He'll make his share of head-scratchers, of course, but overall he'll bolster the weaknesses.

Every season has had a player issue here and there. This is nothing new.

BB has a long history of rolling the dice on players with a bit of a sketchy past (Easley, JC Jackson, AH, Cunningham, etc).

Sometimes they work out. Sometimes they don't.

Jack Jones seems to have outstanding physical ability and was able to turn that into a pretty good rookie year.

Let's hope a little discipline, teaching him accountability and making it clear there are consequences for his actions reset his attitude before it's too late.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Sadly, in 2023, it seems to be more & more common. You wouldn’t (or maybe you would) believe the things taking place at my work.

Happens everywhere.

The kid needs to go to rehab. Baffles me that he thought it was optional.

 

[Ross12]

Sadly, in 2023, it seems to be more & more common. You wouldn’t (or maybe you would) believe the things taking place at my work.

Work ethic is so bad anymore.