Curran Believes Jones is 'Making an Enemy' Out of Belichick

[TomPatriot]

That's a non-answer given the stats and this season as a whole.

Maybe it means he thinks Mac is better than Zappe or Kraft is forcing him to play Mac. I doubt it’s the latter.

 

[Triumph]

If you put zappe in after this performance in the raiders game the damaged caused by that will end his Carreer in NE

Spot on the money.

Look at the drama caused when Jones was out and the NE offense started to flow with Zappe. Maybe playing Zappe is no change or worse, but at least you know what you have at QB for 2023. Right now I'm drafting a QB high as possible in the next draft. BOB coming here and fixing Jones is hilarious. BOB has a temper like a stick of dynamite and and will go off on Jones.

 

[TomPatriot]

We could sit here and nitpick every position, every coach, every personnel move, and more. Bottom line is, there’s only one person to blame for everything that’s taken place, and that’s Bill Belichick. It pains me to say it. I love everything he has done for this organization, but come on already. The personnel decisions he has made over the last few years. The coaching decisions. He seems lost. I’ve personally fallen prey to chalking it all up to in BB we trust, but this season has really eroded some of that. Hell, with all the cap space coming up, the plethora of draft picks….I just don’t have any hope that he is going to make the right decisions to make this team better. Henry and Smith and Agholor have been duds. Big Trent has been mediocre since re-signing. Slapping the franchise tag on Wynn. Letting JC walk for nothing. Not refilling the coaching staff, ****ing Mayo around, trading Mason for jack ****. I just don’t get it. Does anyone really think he’s gonna blow this whole thing up this offseason and aggressively do what needs to be done to bring this team back into contention?

Ultimately, he’ll do what the Krafts tell him to do or leave. It’s their team, not his, and Bob Kraft has a pretty good record of selecting coaches (Parcells, Carroll, Belichick).

 

[Triumph]

The problem about playing Zappe for the next 3 games is that he'll be so good we'll get offered multiple firsts by several NFL teams. Wouldn't we be better keeping the Zapp under wraps and let him explode all over the NFL in 2023?

No

Lets try and win with this team. Lets expend every possible option available to win these last 3 games. Jones starts vs Cincinnati, but he has to move the offense and score points. If not, let Zappe have a shot. That's fair for everyone. If the Pats took down 3 post season teams in succession that would speak volumes. That would make this season a success and exhibit the progress that Kraft wished for IMO.

Its just business. Facts dont care about feelings.

 

[sb1]

The problem about playing Zappe for the next 3 games is that he'll be so good we'll get offered multiple firsts by several NFL teams. Wouldn't we be better keeping the Zapp under wraps and let him explode all over the NFL in 2023?

If Bill would rather keep Zappe rather than happily accepting even a second round pick for him in a trade he should be immediately relieved of his duties as GM and head coach of the Patriots.

 

[Triumph]

Not crapping on our draft (actually thought it turned out well) but could you imagine watson, Pickens, the Jones bros, strong, zappe, and k Harris in one haul?

How can we be sure that Zappe isnt a whole better than just a backup?

All this team needs is steady QB play. Converting 3rd downs and hitting the key play here or there that winds up being the reason for the win.

 

[signbabybrady]

Ultimately, he’ll do what the Krafts tell him to do or leave. It’s their team, not his, and Bob Kraft has a pretty good record of selecting coaches (Parcells, Carroll, Belichick).

Orthwein hired Parcels

 

[RIpats88]

Spot on the money.

Look at the drama caused when Jones was out and the NE offense started to flow with Zappe. Maybe playing Zappe is no change or worse, but at least you know what you have at QB for 2023. Right now I'm drafting a QB high as possible in the next draft. BOB coming here and fixing Jones is hilarious. BOB has a temper like a stick of dynamite and and will go off on Jones.

BOB is a real OC who COACHED Jones. I think he would be just fine.

All this boiling over has to do with the coaches and playcalling being garbage

 

[Triumph]

I have a feeling Jones would like to be moved. I think he wants out of here no matter what happens. Even if they get a new coaching staff and he turns into a good or even great QB next year, I think he is out of New England the first chance he gets. If it is either him or Belichick in New England next year, I think he will welcome a trade.

Mac shooting his way out of town.

Tampa will need a new QB.

 

[TomPatriot]

Orthwein hired Parcels

Ok, my bad. But Kraft kept him until Parcells wanted to leave, which he did everywhere.

 

[RIpats88]

How can we be sure that Zappe isnt a whole better than just a backup?

All this team needs is steady QB play. Converting 3rd downs and hitting the key play here or there that winds up being the reason for the win.

Because if he was he would be starting right now. Clearly the team thinks Mac has higher upside than zappe. There bears game showed his limitations as he puked on himself in the second half.

People need to stop romanticizing 2 games against bad defenses. One where he threw 188 yards. So really one ok game, one really good game (in a blowout however) and one garbage game. Chances are against tougher defenses he would continue off the rails. Because we saw against a good bears defense he threw 2 picks and had 5 batted passes.

It's like saying the 49ers should trade Trey Lance because Brock purdy has looked good for a couple games. Anyone can look good for a stretch.

 

[Triumph]

BOB is a real OC who COACHED Jones. I think he would be just fine.

All this boiling over has to do with the coaches and playcalling being garbage

BOB got to Bama after Jones left. Bill O'Brien (American football) - Wikipedia

The current NE QBs arm is garbage. I have a bad feeling INT # 8 is coming vs the Bengals.

 

[Triumph]

BOB is a real OC who COACHED Jones. I think he would be just fine.

All this boiling over has to do with the coaches and playcalling being garbage

This is the guy fixing Jones huh?

 

[Lagaffe_07]

BOB is a real OC who COACHED Jones

BOB never coached Jones.

 

[RIpats88]

BOB got to Bama after Jones left.

The current NE QBs arm is garbage. I have a bad feeling INT # 8 is coming vs the Bengals.

He's a real OC who would call real plays. Any blind mute can see that's why there is mutiny on the field. Guys don't trust the playcalling. I doubt we are having this conversation if Bill replaces McDaniel with a real OC.

But I get it. You have an agenda to spin in every thread. Mac bad! It's all his fault. Patricia and Bill have no faults here...playcalling is fine and Zappe is the future goat. He should just run the coaching staff back another year....with a new QB their true brilliance will shine....

 

[All3Phases]

There is 100% an element of we have a spoiler fanbase and be middling and on the edge of playoffs and not an outright top tier contender the sky is falling. Rebuilding teams are usually struggling to get a few wins in the season.

I would add two things, how long will we be using the term rebuild? It’s about to be year 4. At some point we have to acknowledge that it’s been a slow one.

Also I don’t think all fans want is a top tier contender, they want to be building something. Since Brady left and they started “rebuilding”, they spent hundreds of millions in FA, will be under .500 2/3 years (most likely), have a lackluster coaching staff, a regressing offense and 2nd year qb with no answer on his future. They haven’t really solved anything over this period

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Because if he was he would be starting right now. Clearly the team thinks Mac has higher upside than zappe. There bears game showed his limitations as he puked on himself in the second half.

Mac has puked on himself all season long. Most recently last Sunday.

 

[TomPatriot]

Mac never played under BOB but Mac taught him the Alabama offense after Sarkisian left, according to Alex Barth. No wonder he hates playing under Patricia.

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[Triumph]

He's a real OC who would call real plays. Any blind mute can see that's why there is mutiny on the field. Guys don't trust the playcalling. I doubt we are having this conversation if Bill replaces McDaniel with a real OC.

But I get it. You have an agenda to spin in every thread. Mac bad! It's all his fault. Patricia and Bill have no faults here...playcalling is fine and Zappe is the future goat. He should just run the coaching staff back another year....with a new QB their true brilliance will shine....

Chicago, remember.

Trent Brown does not respect Jones. He wants a change next season.

Every week there are WRs and TEs open that dont see the ball because the checkdown 5 yard gain guy gets it. Patricia is not telling Jones to not throw TDs and to throw INTs.

 

[Triumph]

Mac has puked on himself all season long. Most recently last Sunday.

In the final seconds of any NFL game the QB gets the ball everytime.

Ive never seen a RB get the ball with 3 seconds left and 50 yards to go.