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Nonono Tuck play was payback for Sugar Bear.Regarding the controversial reviewed td, it just occurred to me this was the raiders payback for the tuck rule game
I think he's so valuable near the LOS that it would be a sin to have him play free safety. I really would prefer maybe Bledsoe or a guy like Mills at that position.Sorry if I haven't seen it, but I'm surprised not many people are talking about the awesome INT from Dugger. The anticipation of the screen and snatching it like that is something you rarely see. I expect him to be "the guy" when McCourty leaves which I expect this offseason.
The raiders got delay calls. The Patriots were at the line snapping the ball but the ref prevented it. did you miss Belichick yelling at the ref?Didn't they get two or three delay of game calls?? Those things were unheard of in times past.
Kraft stepped in when Bill was overruling the scouts and drafting garbage. So now that has improved. He needs to step in again and tell bill this isn't a frat for your buddies. Hire real coaches.
In the first line you're saying that we know what the coach's instructions were and in the second line you're saying we don't.
That bigger question is why some fans don't believe what they're being told and why they don't have faith in the offensive coaching.
For me Patricia is undoubtedly a proven winner as a positional coach while a failure as a HC. I wouldn't have a problem with BB moving Patricia back to defence but is that possible with BB junior calling the plays? Part of me feels sorry for Patricia but he chose to put himself in that position and needed to deliver better results than he has. If we don't have an offensive coaching revamp in a few weeks then I'm not sure things will get any better.While I agree that Patricia wasn't a good hire as an OC or even the O-Line coach, claiming he's not a real coach is asinine when the guy has umpteen years in the league as a f'in coach. Same with Judge. Bad hire as a QB coach, but still a "REAL" coach.
Where did you get this ridiculous idea from? The ONLY noted times that Bill over-ruled the scouting was with Jackson and Maroney. It's been speculation that BB over-ruled the scouts on the likes of Michel, but there has been zero concrete evidence. Kraft has never stepped in. All Kraft did was make an innocuous statement that the drafting needed to improve. If you're trying to infer that Wolf and Groh were put in because of bad BB/Caserio drafts, then you clearly didn't follow the timelines.. like at all. Wolf/Groh were hired by BB. Wolf was a STEAL after he got shafted by GB. When BB saw he was available, I'm certain he reached out with the specific thought in mind of replacing Caserio.
People like you claiming that Patricia and Judge "aren't real coaches" are the same yahoos who've b!t*hed and whined about The Belichick boys on defense and nepotism there. Respected players like D-Mac, Gilmore, etc, have stated that they're good coaches and that they EARNED their positions. But you all still WHINE about it.
While I agree that Patricia wasn't a good hire as an OC or even the O-Line coach, claiming he's not a real coach is asinine when the guy has umpteen years in the league as a f'in coach. Same with Judge. Bad hire as a QB coach, but still a "REAL" coach. BB brought them back because he'd worked well with them and had a good rapport with them. That's what good managers do. And yes, you out them in positions when you see if they can help the team. Unfortunately, we learned that they couldn't help the team in those areas.
BB CAN and HAS admitted to mistakes in coaching hires. Corwin Brown. Dave Gugliermo.
I was one who was calling for a new O-line coach LAST season when Bricillo/Yates failed. We got Patricia and I was told that he should be ok because he had worked for a year under Scarnecchia and Yates had played for Scar. I was right. I hated the move and Patricia/Yates did poorly getting the O-line ready consistently. The Pats NEED an O-line Coach with bonifides whom is willing to come in and do just that. I don't know if they can get Popovich to come back or if the NFL has blackballed him, but they NEED someone.
I can't put Wynn's regression on them. I put that on Wynn. Guy clearly mailed it in when he was told he was being moved from LT. Onwenu seems to have thrived since settling in at RG. Strange is a rookie. He's has good and bad. Andrews is Andrews. He's good, but has his blemishes (like failing to pick up the late blitzing LB 99% of the time). I 'm not sure what Trent Brown's issue is. He's been about 50% of what he was when he played LT for the Pats during his 1st tenure.
They also need someone who can help Mac with his mechanics on a regular basis. Mac needs to work on his pre-snap reads of defenses. He needs to recognize when a side gets overloaded and either audible out of the play or shift the protection so he doesn't leave his backside exposed. Or call something to alert the TE that HE needs to chip the farthest outside rusher before going into his route.
I think if you look superclose he is out but given the edging of his shoe is black and they didn't have this view to see it from and just the blurry high endzone shot it was never going to be overturned. Given what happened for the rest of the game and how it ended thats not really a big deal now. It was only 2nd down anyway.Sorry if this has been beaten into the ground already. I haven’t had time to scan the entire thread. There was no way this was going to get overturned…
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He's definitely out, but it was a great throw and catch none the less.I think if you look superclose he is out but given the edging of his shoe is black and they didn't have this view to see it from and just the blurry high endzone shot it was never going to be overturned. Given what happened for the rest of the game and how it ended thats not really a big deal now. It was only 2nd down anyway.
100%, but i can see why it wasn't overturned (even though i was screaming at the tv at the time)He's definitely out, but it was a great throw and catch none the less.
BUT they did have the side view of him kicking up white pellets and grass, which is a sure sign he stepped out.100%, but i can see why it wasn't overturned (even though i was screaming at the tv at the time)
Weirdly i remember them saying the opposite, that you could see black being kicked up as they were referring to the black pellets on the pitch. I'll look at it again as i'm not 100%.BUT they did have the side view of him kicking up white pellets and grass, which is a sure sign he stepped out.
In fact, Mike Pereira and Vilma specifically pointed out that they couldn't see any black pellets kicked up.
But the replay they did have showed white pellets kicking up
This photo is cropped.Sorry if this has been beaten into the ground already. I haven’t had time to scan the entire thread. There was no way this was going to get overturned…
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You may be right. I'm referring to the fact that they were using the pebbles as a measuring stick for where he stepped out.Weirdly i remember them saying the opposite, that you could see black being kicked up as they were referring to the black pellets on the pitch. I'll look at it again as i'm not 100%.
The photo is not cropped. Christ.This photo is cropped.
It leaves out the front of his show which is white and on the line. It does show however the white turf getting kicked up, which was also visible on the replay that the booth had.