Mac: "I want to be coached harder"

[venecol]

Kontra said he was told to take responsibility and I said that would never happen and then you called me naive to believe that. So the issue is you may have a reading comprehension problem.

Kontra did say that, I didn't.

 

[oldrover]

I like Mac in general.

However, he does seem to have two issues... one of which can be coached... one I'm not sure.

The first is situational awareness. The grounding he took at the 1 yard line... he could have just fallen to the ground, taken the sack, but not cost the team a down. Also the mega sack in the red zone.

The other... and I hate to say this... is a certain level of, I guess, fearlessness. That he seems to lack. Kind of reminds me of Tony Eason in that way. I don't know if that can be coached up.

That said, I saw a lot less of that fear last year. In fact, not much at all. So maybe that is coaching... or more confidence in the OL... or just being happy to be on the Pats ans an rookie and ready to do whatever. And maybe it's too much thinking. Who knows. I hope he can turn it around.

 

[Toofy]

I like Mac in general.

However, he does seem to have two issues... one of which can be coached... one I'm not sure.

The first is situational awareness. The grounding he took at the 1 yard line... he could have just fallen to the ground, taken the sack, but not cost the team a down. Also the mega sack in the red zone.

The other... and I hate to say this... is a certain level of, I guess, fearlessness. That he seems to lack. Kind of reminds me of Tony Eason in that way. I don't know if that can be coached up.

That said, I saw a lot less of that fear last year. In fact, not much at all. So maybe that is coaching... or more confidence in the OL... or just being happy to be on the Pats ans an rookie and ready to do whatever. And maybe it's too much thinking. Who knows. I hope he can turn it around.

He is being set up for failure. It's unfair to judge him on this. Any rookie QB including Josh Allen would falter .

Just for a second let's put us in his shoes. You are asked to do a job with no guidance and your coworkers ( the offensive line ) conspiring to delete or negate the work that you did . What will your reaction be ? Would you accept fault.


Luckily for us we can search for new jobs and go whereas for the players especially rookies there is not much of an option. They can make you sit for 4 years and screw your career. This is nothing short of bonded labour but at a pretty good salary package .

The players association should fight to get contracts nullified in these type of scenarios . The owners might not agree, but this doesn't look like free market to me and is extremely disadvantageous to younger players.

I feel sorry for Mac . I have also been harsh on him , but the more I think about it, I feel pity and remorse towards my earlier attitude.

Mac if you are reading this , sincere apologies from my end . You are trying your best and the pats organization has conspired to make you fail for no reason . This is 99% on belichick and 1 % on Patricia.

 

[Patjew]

What if Patricia asked for the job?

Then BB says No or gets rid of him when it becomes apparent he can't do it well. I've had many people ask me for a job or promotion that I've said no, too. And others I have had to fire, unfortunately.

 

[Patjew]

At the very least I suspect he accepted the job to further his career.

Caley would have been better. O’Shea, BOB, Gase and a whole bunch of college guys would have been better.

I can't imagine anyone being worse.

 

[captain stone]

He is being set up for failure. It's unfair to judge him on this. Any rookie QB including Josh Allen would falter .

Just for a second let's put us in his shoes. You are asked to do a job with no guidance and your coworkers ( the offensive line ) conspiring to delete or negate the work that you did . What will your reaction be ? Would you accept fault.


Luckily for us we can search for new jobs and go whereas for the players especially rookies there is not much of an option. They can make you sit for 4 years and screw your career. This is nothing short of bonded labour but at a pretty good salary package .

The players association should fight to get contracts nullified in these type of scenarios . The owners might not agree, but this doesn't look like free market to me and is extremely disadvantageous to younger players.

I feel sorry for Mac . I have also been harsh on him , but the more I think about it, I feel pity and remorse towards my earlier attitude.

Mac if you are reading this , sincere apologies from my end . You are trying your best and the pats organization has conspired to make you fail for no reason . This is 99% on belichick and 1 % on Patricia.

Corky's part of the Grand Slam of Suck too. He's doing things - bad things - on the field that have little to do with his coaches or his offensive Line or Nelson Agholor, at least not directly.

 

[Zuma]

I like Mac in general.

However, he does seem to have two issues... one of which can be coached... one I'm not sure.

The first is situational awareness. The grounding he took at the 1 yard line... he could have just fallen to the ground, taken the sack, but not cost the team a down. Also the mega sack in the red zone.

The other... and I hate to say this... is a certain level of, I guess, fearlessness. That he seems to lack. Kind of reminds me of Tony Eason in that way. I don't know if that can be coached up.

That said, I saw a lot less of that fear last year. In fact, not much at all. So maybe that is coaching... or more confidence in the OL... or just being happy to be on the Pats ans an rookie and ready to do whatever. And maybe it's too much thinking. Who knows. I hope he can turn it around.

Lately he reminds me of Eason in that regard. I hated Eason for that reason. He was the anti-Grogan.

 

[captain stone]

Lately he reminds me of Eason in that regard. I hated Eason for that reason. He was the anti-Grogan.

Yep.

Someone had described Punky McMILFson as MormonRyanLeaf on twitter (to which Ryan Leaf himself comically responded) earlier last month...

Corky is our NewTonyEason.

 

[Kontradiction]

No player with any self respect would take orders from a coach to take all the blame for everything wrong with the offense in a press conference. If Belichick ordered any player to take blame for everything wrong with the offense and take blame off the coaching staff, he would lose the locker room. Players would turn on him.

He didn’t take “all the blame.”

 

[Kontradiction]

Kontra said he was told to take responsibility and I said that would never happen and then you called me naive to believe that. So the issue is you may have a reading comprehension problem.

I said he was coached up on how to approach the media. We know BB and the Patriots do this. That is why his postgame presser came off as more diplomatic and different. The raw emotion in yelling at Patricia and, now, this quote, show that he blames the coaching first for his troubles and himself second. That’s not a leader. Even if you believe that, even if it’s true, you shut your mouth about it to the media and say it one on one.

 

[Ian]

The other... and I hate to say this... is a certain level of, I guess, fearlessness. That he seems to lack. Kind of reminds me of Tony Eason in that way. I don't know if that can be coached up.

That said, I saw a lot less of that fear last year. In fact, not much at all. So maybe that is coaching... or more confidence in the OL... or just being happy to be on the Pats ans a rookie and ready to do whatever. And maybe it's too much thinking. Who knows. I hope he can turn it around.

If you go back and watch the first few games of last season, the “fearlessness” was there. Mac often stood in until the last minute and took some decent shots but delivered the football. But that changed, I’d say probably somewhere around the Dallas game or somewhere near there (obviously, he took a massive shot in that one) where he looked like he lost a bit of velocity on his throws, which makes me think he was dealing with an injury of some sort.

He may have been told to do that less and be smarter about that, I have no idea. But the short slides and not throwing his body around like he did last year feels like some of that was coached out of him for the sake of his own durability. I mean, he’s only 217-pounds and 6-3, he’s not a big guy, so I get it. But he definitely started out playing that way. However, it feels like he made a conscious decision not to continue doing so.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

He's listening to the wrong people to even let the phrase "I want to be coached..." leave his mouth, if in fact that's what he said.

He's basically blaming the coaching, albeit in a way that also telegraphs, "go ahead, yell at me, I'm not made of glass." That's not how you "coach hard" in the NFL. Replacing you and hoping you get the message is more being "coached hard" at this level.

If anybody asks BB at the podium about it I would suggest he say "Oh did she really say that?" (A little Parcells era tough-guy routine, if that's what he wants. It would just be fun to see the callback.)

 

[venecol]

If you go back and watch the first few games of last season, the “fearlessness” was there. Mac often stood in until the last minute and took some decent shots but delivered the football. But that changed, I’d say probably somewhere around the Dallas game or somewhere near there (obviously, he took a massive shot in that one) where he looked like he lost a bit of velocity on his throws, which makes me think he was dealing with an injury of some sort.

He may have been told to do that less and be smarter about that, I have no idea. But the short slides and not throwing his body around like he did last year feels like some of that was coached out of him for the sake of his own durability. I mean, he’s only 217-pounds and 6-3, he’s not a big guy, so I get it. But he definitely started out playing that way. However, it feels like he made a conscious decision not to continue doing so.

Sorry Ian but this is more excuses. Once he reaches the second level, he's dealing with DBs that aren't any bigger than he is. We don't have any DBs that are taller than he is and only Dugger outweighs him by 3 #s. Hamlin and Poyer are =<200 #s. This is football, you can't give up 1 yard short of the 1st down marker in a critical moment in the game.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

I said he was coached up on how to approach the media. We know BB and the Patriots do this. That is why his postgame presser came off as more diplomatic and different. The raw emotion in yelling at Patricia and, now, this quote, show that he blames the coaching first for his troubles and himself second. That’s not a leader. Even if you believe that, even if it’s true, you shut your mouth about it to the media and say it one on one.

Not only shouldn't I ever agree with you, nobody should, but this time you're actually right. Like him or not, this is going down the wrong road, looking for a problem with how he's coached.

It's also in line with the "bad coaching" narratives flying around up there and I don't like the idea that "the noise" has that easy a path to the QB

 

[Triumph]

The one we have did ok last year with a competent OC.

Yeah, a guy who looked like a star vs terrible teams, but was Mia vs the good ones.

 

[Ian]

Sorry Ian but this is more excuses.

It's not an excuse, it's an observation. Since I don't truly know his reasoning, you can take it for what it is/isn't.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Sorry Ian but this is more excuses. Once he reaches the second level, he's dealing with DBs that aren't any bigger than he is. We don't have any DBs that are taller than he is and only Dugger outweighs him by 3 #s. Hamlin and Poyer are =<200 #s. This is football, you can't give up 1 yard short of the 1st down marker in a critical moment in the game.

That's another play I'm surprised more aren't talking about as he made a business decision slide - yet he still hurt himself.

 

[Kontradiction]

It's not an excuse, it's an observation. Since I don't truly know his reasoning, you can take it for what it is/isn't.

Hopefully he isn’t getting David Carr’d.

 

[Kontradiction]

That's another play I'm surprised more aren't talking about as he made a business decision slide - yet he still hurt himself.

It was gutless. It disgusted me in real time to see it.

 

[Ian]

Hopefully he isn’t getting David Carr’d.

Texans ruined that kid. Bob George lives in Bakersfield and saw a lot of his games locally at Fresno State and he was a good player. Amazing what happened to that guy and how his career turned out when Houston just let him get hammered.