Report: Brady and Gisele are Divorcing

[XLIX]

I mean this comes with the territory of wealthy marriages.

One important thing pre-nups do which most people don't realize is that they determine who gets jurisdiction in case of divorce. In Brady's case this is especially important. You have an American man marrying a Brazilian woman two times, one ceremony in California (his home) and the other in Costa Rica (her home). I do not know which ceremony came first. Then they live about 10 years in Massachusetts but also spend time in NY (and elsewhere) and eventually move to Florida.

Absent a pre-nup, the simple act of setting jurisdiction in the above case could be a logistical nightmare. Which country's laws apply? Which state's laws apply? Where are the divorce proceedings held? etc, etc....

 

[ashley]

One important thing pre-nups do which most people don't realize is that they determine who gets jurisdiction in case of divorce. In Brady's case this is especially important. You have an American man marrying a Brazilian woman two times, one ceremony in California (his home) and the other in Costa Rica (her home). I do not know which ceremony came first. Then they live about 10 years in Massachusetts but also spend time in NY (and elsewhere) and eventually move to Florida.

Absent a pre-nup, the simple act of setting jurisdiction in the above case could be a logistical nightmare. Which country's laws apply? Which state's laws apply? Where are the divorce proceedings held? etc, etc....

You just don't have a clue, I'm sorry to say.

 

[Bill Lee]

You know what? Football isn't a couple hours entertainment on a Sunday for him like it is for the rest of us. Football is the man's life endeavor. It is his job. It is what he has dedicated his professional life to for over 20 years.

Does it come "before" family? No.... but the family should make concessions to the unique job he holds, and his unique place within that profession.

Seems clear to me she made lots and lots of concessions over the years, and then he agreed it was time to retire and spend more time with the family (remember that big IG post when he retired?), but then he reneged on that. Seems clear to me he's being overly selfish.

What promises? Neither you nor I have the first clue what, if any, promises he has made to her on this issue. Everything I have ever heard the man say is "I am going to play until I suck."

From his retirement statement:

There is a physical, mental, and emotional challenge EVERY single day that has allowed me to maximise my highest potential. And I have tried my very best these past 22 years. There are no shortcuts to success on the field or in life.

"This is difficult for me to write, but here it goes: I am not going to make that competitive commitment anymore. I have loved my NFL career, and now it is time to focus my time and energy on other things that require my attention.
..
"It's not always what I want. It's what we want as a family," he said at the time. "And I'm going to spend a lot of time with them and figure out in the future what's next".

So, in short, he was talking out his ass. He has the right to change his mind, of course, but she has the right to be very pissed off that he did change his mind and chose another season of football over the other things that require his attention.

Source: Tom Brady announces his retirement from the NFL after 22 seasons

PS: FU on the McDonald's comment. Lots of people have had rewarding careers working there.

 

[Tunescribe]

One important thing pre-nups do which most people don't realize is that they determine who gets jurisdiction in case of divorce. In Brady's case this is especially important. You have an American man marrying a Brazilian woman two times, one ceremony in California (his home) and the other in Costa Rica (her home). I do not know which ceremony came first. Then they live about 10 years in Massachusetts but also spend time in NY (and elsewhere) and eventually move to Florida.

Absent a pre-nup, the simple act of setting jurisdiction in the above case could be a logistical nightmare. Which country's laws apply? Which state's laws apply? Where are the divorce proceedings held? etc, etc....

A pre-nup contradicts the very nature of marriage as commitment. As trite as "for better or worse, 'til death do us part" might seem, it's essential to weathering inevitable storms together.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You just don't have a clue, I'm sorry to say.

Ashley, I wouldn't pay any attention to him. He's a Brady fan boy...and I'm guessing he's all too familiar with divorce proceedings.

 

[ashley]

Ashley, I wouldn't pay any attention to him. He's a Brady fan boy...and I'm guessing he's all too familiar with divorce proceedings.

Well that certainly explains things....and for a poster to say go "f" yourself to a female or any other poster in my book is unacceptable.

 

[seven]

Back to New England, & right now please?

+ Two men who can make a diving catch across the middle
+ already good D

SB
*
We have been wronged, only way to make it right.

Brady ownership interest in Pats
To Not Repeat Mistake made with Mr Orr

In the latter case, the agent managed to not tell our hero
...the money offer included neg. amt ownership of Bruins.
Agent went to prison in Canada, for other crimes.
Orr went to Chi.
Hearts still broken
*
Brady? MIA behind the scenes dirty trix.
Payment overdue
"Other" interests
*
If Brady says so, it happens.

 

[Bella*chick]

What promises? Neither you nor I have the first clue what, if any, promises he has made to her on this issue. Everything I have ever heard the man say is "I am going to play until I suck."

How about you live your life the way you want and not tell someone else how to live his?

Sorry not sorry but you're making the same mistake the previous poster did. You are minimizing the importance of football because, to us, football is a recreational activity for a couple hours on Sunday and Monday. But to Brady, there kinda really isn't a lot more to life than football.

Football is what he has dedicated his professional life to for almost a quarter century. Football has made him wealthy beyond imagination. Football is what he will be remembered for. Millions of people have thrown parades for the man and his teammates because of football. So stop acting like football is nothing more than a way to pass time during the autumn for the guy. Football is his life and he is hardly the first man to see a relationship/marriage go south because of his commitment to football.

My career is very important to me. I do not think I would have a happy marriage if I was married to a woman who didn't support that and didn't recognize that it involves sacrifices in some cases. Isn't your career important to you? Don't you think your family should support you to the end? Or do you work at McDonald's?

The number one thing important to me is MY KIDS. The end. And no I don’t work at McDonald’s, you arrogant little brat, I’m a lawyer. But HELL NO it is not the most important thing.

His career? Might mean a lot to him but it’s a GAME. A game that makes rich men a lot richer. And nothing more. It’s pathetic to elevate it to anything beyond that.

 

[VectorPrime]

A pre-nup contradicts the very nature of marriage as commitment. As trite as "for better or worse, 'til death do us part" might seem, it's essential to weathering inevitable storms together.

The institution of Marriage was literally invented as a social compact to handle property rights.

 

[VectorPrime]

A pre-nup contradicts the very nature of marriage as commitment. As trite as "for better or worse, 'til death do us part" might seem, it's essential to weathering inevitable storms together.

So in your book every divorce that has ever occurred is some incontrovertible moral failing?

 

[Nehalem]

The institution of Marriage was literally invented as a social compact to handle property rights.

Considering how limited women's property rights were throughout a lot of history... that seems unlikely.

To extend, from wikipedia:

Typically, it is an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually sexual, are acknowledged or sanctioned. In some cultures, marriage is recommended or considered to be compulsory before pursuing any sexual activity. A marriage ceremony is called a wedding.

Marriage - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[maust]

Me: "You didn't think that was funny?"

Her: "What?"

Me: "What I just said."

Her: "No."

You knew the answer before you asked the question.

You asked it anyway.

You lived to tell the tale.

This tells me two things;
The 1st is that woman loves you, you not only know it but regularly rely on it for your very survival.
The 2nd is your wife is probably NOT a redhead.

Tune my friend in addition to being blessed with good life-mates you and I are fortunate to know something that many a less seasoned husband does not. In the immortal words of Oscar Wilde, 'The man who says his wife can't take a joke, forgets that she took him.'

 

[RobertWeathers]

So distilled down to football speak, you're saying the rumors have it that the lovely Gisele fell in love with thirtysomething off season Tommy but has reached the end of her rope finding herself now married to hardcore in season grizzled TFB?

Sounds like a remake of a bad baseball movie.

Maybe. Garden-variety analysis is they've both changed, evolved, become entrenched in what they want and the by-product is they've grown distant, now have different priorities and wants out of life.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Kitchen conversation with my wife this morning as she was making toast:

Her: "I didn't sleep well at all last night."

Me: "Why?"

Her: "My mind wouldn't stop."

Me: "That's weird, it stops all the time during the day."

Long silent pause ...

Me: "You didn't think that was funny?"

Her: "What?"

Me: "What I just said."

Her: "No."

Gonna have to borrow that. Thx.

 

[Guts]

Ashley, I wouldn't pay any attention to him. He's a Brady fan boy...and I'm guessing he's all too familiar with divorce proceedings.

Other than the Tompa thread which you've been banned from by the looks of it, this is you in this forum in the top 5 topics lmao. Brady fan boy is you my friend

 

[Tunescribe]

The institution of Marriage was literally invented as a social compact to handle property rights.

So in your book every divorce that has ever occurred is some incontrovertible moral failing?

That might be true as "social institution." As a spiritual union between a man and a woman, though, being 101-percent committed to commitment is the only way it has a CHANCE of surviving. Unique rewards in personal growth come through weathering crises together that, absent the promise of commitment, would ruin most partnerships.

To your second point, divorce should be a last resort when one spouse is doing the other harm and all efforts to resolve it have been exhausted. Of course, "harm" is open to interpretation and everyone defines it differently; being spiritually grounded helps in that regard.

 

[Tunescribe]

Gonna have to borrow that. Thx.

At your own risk, I would not recommend it.

 

[VectorPrime]

That might be true as "social institution." As a spiritual union between a man and a woman, though, being 101-percent committed to commitment is the only way it has a CHANCE of surviving. Unique rewards in personal growth come through weathering crises together that, absent the promise of commitment, would ruin most partnerships.

To your second point, divorce should be a last resort when one spouse is doing the other harm and all efforts to resolve it have been exhausted. Of course, "harm" is open to interpretation and everyone defines it differently; being spiritually grounded helps in that regard.

Ok but not everyone is spiritual. And who knows what the new age hippie White Witch stuff Giselle is into says about marriage

 

[SHOWTIME15]

LOL, just reading the Timmy Bay thread, they are all excited that Brady and Gisele are divorcing so that Tom can play without anyone nagging him....

 

[TBR]

Please tell me you're joking.

Riveting, highly intellectual response.