Pats have engaged in TRADE TALKS for Isaiah Wynn

[Wozzy]

He didn't show up to OTAs. That could mean multiple things including one of them a lack of commitment to improve.

He wants a contract.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He wants a contract.

Has he said that?

 

[Wozzy]

Has he said that?

Every player in the final year of their deal who wants to keep playing wants a contract. That’s just common sense.

This is especially true of players in the final year of their rookie contract… guys who have had a small taste of big NFL money but haven’t earned that mega contract yet.

Wynn might be faking injury, the Pats might be holding him back after seeing he was healthy earlier in camp to protect him. They’re not a heartless corporation, they understand these players are human and they also want to protect their asset.

Typically before a player gets traded in preseason a team will put him in bubble wrap, they don’t want him getting hurt before they deal him. I’m not saying that’s the case here but it might be. They might also want to see some of the younger lineman, they know what they have in Wynn.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

I can think of about 9.5 million reasons why the Patriots would trade Wynn for a not so great draft pick.

"If the Patriots were to trade Isaiah Wynn as previously reported, the team would save $9.518 million in cap space."

article: Potential landing spots and trade packages for Patriots OT Isaiah Wynn

Would only be worth if it they were planning to make a move with that cap space to improve the roster this year, i dont think it would be worth it to free up the cap space just to carry some of it over to next year when we're going to have a dump truck full of cap space

Need to keep our 2nd year QB upright, healthy and continuing to grow

 

[Huckleberry1]

He didn't show up to OTAs. That could mean multiple things including one of them a lack of commitment to improve.

I don’t think they would have picked up his option if he had a poor work ethic the past 4 years. Those players don’t last long under Belichick.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Every player in the final year of their deal who wants to keep playing wants a contract. That’s just common sense.

This is especially true of players in the final year of their rookie contract… guys who have had a small taste of big NFL money but haven’t earned that mega contract yet.

Wynn might be faking injury, the Pats might be holding him back after seeing he was healthy earlier in camp to protect him. They’re not a heartless corporation, they understand these players are human and they also want to protect their asset.

Typically before a player gets traded in preseason a team will put him in bubble wrap, they don’t want him getting hurt before they deal him. I’m not saying that’s the case here but it might be. They might also want to see some of the younger lineman, they know what they have in Wynn.

I'm not convinced Wynn wants to stay here nor was I convinced he wanted to stay here before the team picked up the 5th year option.

 

[Ring 6]

He didn't show up to OTAs. That could mean multiple things including one of them a lack of commitment to improve.

Do you really think a 5 year vet “improves” in a 2 day OTA of walk through?
What value could it really hold for an OL when there is no contact?

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don’t think they would have picked up his option if he had a poor work ethic the past 4 years. Those players don’t last long under Belichick.

Not necessarily. They view him as an asset to trade.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Do you really think a 5 year vet “improves” in a 2 day OTA of walk through?
What value could it really hold for an OL when there is no contact?

I think their coach views every opportunity in the building as an opportunity to improve. It's a culture. You know that.

 

[Ring 6]

Not necessarily. They view him as an asset to trade.

Seriously?
You think that they don’t want him
but see a guy on a guaranteed 5th year option who will then be free as excellent trade bait? And they started him every game he has been available because they don’t want to play him?
Not sure why you have a grudge on Wynn but it’s clouding your thinking.

 

[Ring 6]

I think their coach views every opportunity in the building as an opportunity to improve. It's a culture. You know that.

You said he doesn’t care about improving. There is no way he sees an OTA as an opportunity to improve.
And if BB really valued it, as a way to improve, he wouldn’t give them the last day off every year

 

[Wozzy]

I'm not convinced Wynn wants to stay here nor was I convinced he wanted to stay here before the team picked up the 5th year option.

Who knows, but he’ll probably go where the money is. He already has a ring from 2018, even if he was injured the entire time.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

If he's traded, Las Vegas seems to make the most sense. They have over $20 million in cap space and need a RT badly. That, plus the obvious McDaniels/Ziegler connection....

I'm not sure why everyone is saying "we are up against the cap." We have about $7 million in cap space, which is not great, but not terrible either. It's a healthy enough cushion to make one or two in-season acquisitions.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Seriously?
You think that they don’t want him
but see a guy on a guaranteed 5th year option who will then be free as excellent trade bait? And they started him every game he has been available because they don’t want to play him?
Not sure why you have a grudge on Wynn but it’s clouding your thinking.

I think you overrate him

Hes missed 1/2 his games here. He's not reliable and his play on the field was inconsistent last year.

Because he has talent and plays a premium position he has value.

If he plays like 2020 they would be happy.

If he has another 2018, 2019 and a 2021 they wont

 

[RobertWeathers]

You said he doesn’t care about improving. There is no way he sees an OTA as an opportunity to improve.
And if BB really valued it, as a way to improve, he wouldn’t give them the last day off every year

Missing OTAs shows a less-then-100% commitment to the team. Period. You called Brady out for it but won't for Wynn?

If Wynn- with his injury and performance issues last year, choses not to utilize every opportunity to immerse himself into a winning program that says something about his focus and commitment.

 

[Grogan14]

Missing OTAs shows a less-then-100% commitment to the team. Period. You called Brady out for it but won't for Wynn?

If Wynn- with his injury and performance issues last year, choses not to utilize every opportunity to immerse himself into a winning program that says something about his focus and commitment.

He knows Pats are not committed to him. He probably does not want to risk injury any more than he has to. Will he play hard for next years contact or not hard to avoid injury? I say the latter

 

[PatsFan2]

He knows Pats are not committed to him. He probably does not want to risk injury any more than he has to. Will he play hard for next years contact or not hard to avoid injury? I say the latter

I hope its' the former Wynn...win for us.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He knows Pats are not committed to him. He probably does not want to risk injury any more than he has to. Will he play hard for next years contact or not hard to avoid injury? I say the latter

It is in Wynn's best interest to play full-tilt during the reg season. OTAs, preseason and practices I get (ala Gilly) I get

 

[Kontradiction]

It is in Wynn's best interest to play full-tilt during the reg season. OTAs, preseason and practices I get (ala Gilly)

Plus, playing half-assed opens oneself up to injury more than going full tilt. That’s true in just about every contact sport.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Plus, playing half-assed opens oneself up to injury more than going full tilt. That’s true in just about every contact sport.

Yep and hes better off playing full-tilt and excelling on the field even if he misses a bunch of time. At least he has a chance to get a deal which would pay him well if he hits incentives based on playing time and performance.