Potentially Bad News on Barmore [update: 'MRI clean']

[Tunescribe]

Hasn't he already been on the injury report several weeks with a knee problem? I'm wondering if that was made worse.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Hasn't he already been on the injury report several weeks with a knee problem? I'm wondering if that was made worse.

Yep. Knee and ankle injuries this year. Not sure if it's the same knee?

 

[RobertWeathers]

If Barmore escapes a major injury, I’d shut him down for sure no matter how he says he feels during the week.

If it's not structural and can't be damaged any further he should play.

 

[RobertWeathers]

This was my initial thought as well. It looked like a blunt, bone-on-bone impact, and not a flailing limb where ligaments were compromised. That said, I didn't get a great look at the play and I'm not a doctor. I'd be curious what Rapoport's report is based on, just the x-ray, or additional information. The MRI will finalize the diagnosis, obviously ... fingers crossed it's bruising. If there is a ligament issue, I'll hold out hope for an MCL that doesn't involve the ACL, because those are relatively easy to come back from and shouldn't pose a massive issue from a rehab/future development perspective.

I also have to say that I'm rather disappointed with Reiss' reporting on the matter. Perhaps he has additional information, but if he basing his reaction solely on Barmore's emotional state, I think he went too far in implying (if not explicitly saying) that this is a serious/long-term issue. He should know better than that. (If it turns out he has medical details, then fair enough, but that wasn't the sense I got based on his reporting and as far as we know an MRI hasn't been performed yet).

Very out of character for Reiss. Unless he knows it's an ACL and the team is feeding Rapoport **** to keep BUF honest that would be the only explanation for Mike to be jumping the gun with the speculation

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[ashley]

Fingers crossed!!!!

 

[Joker]

I'm sure glad that the Ignoroid Omissioner upped the season to 17 games...after all, the owners need more money to buttress their meager multi-billion dollar investments. I sure hope ol' Rog the Scumbag Lying Azzole of the Century ups next season to eighteen games...you know, for the "integrita!!!" of the game.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Very out of character for Reiss. Unless he knows it's an ACL and the team is feeding Rapoport **** to keep BUF honest that would be the only explanation for Mike to be jumping the gun with the speculation

I think that he was mostly reacting to Barmore more being very emotional, which usually indicates that the player either knows himself right away that the injury is serious or has been told by the doctors that the injury is serious, based upon initial physical exam and initial radiology testing.

It is entirely possible that Reiss jumped the gun and got fooled the emotions of a young player who was scared that he had suffered his first major injury, along with the fact (of course) that he seemingly could not put any weight on the leg. I hope so.

If so, given his overall stellar track record not overreacting, I’ll give him a mulligan on this one. On the other hand BB could be playing games, not wanting to tip his hand with regard to the two injuries, until it is absolutely necessary.

 

[WinstonSmith]

Bill already has him penciled in as questionable, along with half of the roster, on Friday's injury report.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I think that he was mostly reacting to Barmore more being very emotional, which usually indicates that the player either knows himself right away that the injury is serious or has been told by the doctors that the injury is serious, based upon initial physical exam and initial radiology testing.

It is entirely possible that Reiss jumped the gun and got fooled the emotions of a young player who was scared that he had suffered his first major injury, along with the fact (of course) that he seemingly could not put any weight on the leg. I hope so.

If so, given his overall stellar track record not overreacting, I’ll give him a mulligan on this one. On the other hand BB could be playing games, not wanting to tip his hand with regard to the two injuries, until it is absolutely necessary.

Quoting Bob Lobel. Well done.

 

[BTTA]

I'm sure glad that the Ignoroid Omissioner upped the season to 17 games...after all, the owners need more money to buttress their meager multi-billion dollar investments. I sure hope ol' Rog the Scumbag Lying Azzole of the Century ups next season to eighteen games...you know, for the "integrita!!!" of the game.

You are so cynical! They'll go to 18 games as a sympathetic gesture to the millions of Americans with OCD. The NFL only cares about its fans.

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[Tunescribe]

You are so cynical! They'll go to 18 games as a sympathetic gesture to the millions of Americans with OCD. The NFL only cares about its fans.

No One Knows This About Me — I Have OCD And Hate Odd Numbers

So it all began when I was younger, most people have a fear of heights or insects such as spiders or Bees but mine was different.

medium.com

Even Numbers & Perfect Edges: 21 Signs You Suffer From OCD

We all know the types. That one person who can't leave the room without making sure all the plugs are switched off, or who constantly frets that they've left the door ...

www.collegetimes.com

My take: preadolescent psychological morbidities have no bearing whatsoever on economic trends/tendencies in today's status quo. Therefore, the puritanical disapproval of female epidermal exposure via social media and possibly other means -- digital or analog -- is similarly irrelevant. Suffice to say that "free association" always comes with a cost.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

It is both infuriating and fitting that may have been Joejuan’s last play as a Pat….takes a poor angle, too slow to make the play and ends up seriously injuring a teammate who has been critical to the Patriots success this year.

Was going to share this sentiment. Not only is SlowJuan a bust but if he injured our best DLineman....

 

[RIpats88]

I just hope it doesn't effect his off-season/next season

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[RedSleevesPinkStripes]

 

[DaBruinz]

Anyone have a link to the actual Play? I mean, the collision between Williams and Barmore wouldn't have happened if Barmore hadn't been held (back of his jersey pulled away from his body as he tried to get to Tua). But I would like to see the collision..

 

[PatsFan2]

BB with that forthcoming response... Amputation is coming for Barmore yikes.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Thank God.

 

[catent]

I hope Reiss issues a mea culpa for his reporting last night (seemingly based solely on gut instinct and Barmore’s emotional reaction). Knowing his integrity, I expect he will.

@sb1 mentioned in another thread that Belichick seemed particularly chipper/upbeat today. I’m willing to bet this is at least part of why.