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NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Week 15 pre-game thread: Patriots vs Colts


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Interesting the spread is a pick em
 
I’m seeing Colts as 1.5 point favorites. I’m not understanding this spread. I would have guessed Patriots -4.
 
This might be the most difficult test in some time. Colts have a very good OL, the best RB in the NFL, and a tough defense.

It'll be a great chess match. If the Pats commit to taking away that running game, what can Wentz do with favorable passing matchups?

Interested in what teams have done to beat the Colts this year.
 
It'll be a great chess match. If the Pats commit to taking away that running game, what can Wentz do with favorable passing matchups?

Interested in what teams have done to beat the Colts this year.
The Titans took away the run and won twice. Make Wentz beat you, but take away Pittman, who will become somewhat acquainted with JC. I think Buffalo‘s offense is better.
 
The Titans took away the run and won twice. Make Wentz beat you, but take away Pittman, who will become somewhat acquainted with JC. I think Buffalo‘s offense is better.

It's funny though, because if you look at their last two losses (Ten and TB), both held Taylor in check, but ultimately won because their offense scored 34 and 38 points respectively. The Colts had 31 in each of those games. So it sounds great to just take Taylor away (easier said than done), but we shouldn't underestimate the Colts' ability to put up points regardless. That said, our defense is better than Tampa's and Tennessee's, at least against the pass.
 
Nearly all our players traveled on the bye week, so now I'm holding my breath on the Covid front. Covid really going to be the wild card for the remaining games for all teams (more so in the Northeast, Midwest and Southwest right now). When Omicron arrives (guess mid-January) we'll see renewed big outbreaks in the South too, as immunity from infection (or vaccination unless recently boosted) won't protect against getting it (may not be severe though with luck).

Here is a current map of per capita cases, which is what is relevant from perspective of NFL.

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It's funny though, because if you look at their last two losses (Ten and TB), both held Taylor in check, but ultimately won because their offense scored 34 and 38 points respectively. The Colts had 31 in each of those games. So it sounds great to just take Taylor away (easier said than done), but we shouldn't underestimate the Colts' ability to put up points regardless. That said, our defense is better than Tampa's and Tennessee's, at least against the pass.

That’s one reason you have to take Pittman away too.

Tennessee gave up some big yardage PIs in that game.
 
Nearly all our players traveled on the bye week, so now I'm holding my breath on the Covid front. Covid really going to be the wild card for the remaining games for all teams (more so in the Northeast, Midwest and Southwest right now). When Omicron arrives (guess mid-January) we'll see renewed big outbreaks in the South too, as immunity from infection (or vaccination unless recently boosted) won't protect against getting it (may not be severe though with luck).

Here is a current map of per capita cases, which is what is relevant from perspective of NFL.

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At least we play outdoors. I dont know what to make of that map given vaccination rates and mask mandates...I guess its like a normal flu season. Cold weather = humans in a petri dish
 
Not a bad weekend for the Pats....the Bills lost and the Ravens lost...could have been worse....

getting everyone ready for a Monday:

 
It'll be a great chess match. If the Pats commit to taking away that running game, what can Wentz do with favorable passing matchups?

Interested in what teams have done to beat the Colts this year.
That’s the thing - there aren’t many favorable match-ups in the passing game for them.
 
It's funny though, because if you look at their last two losses (Ten and TB), both held Taylor in check, but ultimately won because their offense scored 34 and 38 points respectively. The Colts had 31 in each of those games. So it sounds great to just take Taylor away (easier said than done), but we shouldn't underestimate the Colts' ability to put up points regardless. That said, our defense is better than Tampa's and Tennessee's, at least against the pass.

Overall, our D is the highest ranked in the league in terms of PPG. Wentz can make some really great throws at times, and at other times really lousy ones.
 
Put 8 in the box
Put JC on Pittman
Force Wentz, Hilton, Doyle & Pascal to beat you

The pats offense has had more success vs. better defenses in the browns & titans. Vegas has these teams as evenly matched & I’m not seeing it. Pats fans will be thankful for Bentley & Hightower this week.
 
A win here would make winning out a likely scenario imo. Buffalo and miami are tough but no tougher than this one. And we’ll likely approach each with a do or die attitude given the importance of securing a bye / not having to play at arrowhead
 
Overall, our D is the highest ranked in the league in terms of PPG. Wentz can make some really great throws at times, and at other times really lousy ones.
I see this as one of those games where Indy marches down the field their first series and the Pats tighten it up after that, there's been a few games like that this season depending on the team we play.
 
I see this as one of those games where Indy marches down the field their first series and the Pats tighten it up after that, there's been a few games like that this season depending on the team we play.

Was wondering about that first drive success phenomenon yesterday. How often does that happen in the beginning of the year, when there's not as much tape on offenses? And then does it taper off over the year as the offenses run out of surprises? Would love some stats on that. I'll put one of my interns on it.
 
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