OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Pats1971]

woops

 

[Pats1971]

We used to have a horrible bend don't break defense for years but it was never that bad. Going to be interesting to see if they can drastically improve 3rd down and red zone defense at the least.

3rd down defense has been bad for years, the thing that saved them was the offense staying on the field and keeping the defense off the field, that kept scoring down.

 

[Tottie]

Yds/Game	406.0 (8th)	402.0 (26th)
Rush Yds/Game	56.3 (31st)	63.7 (4th)
Pass Yds/Game	349.7 (2nd)	338.3 (31st)
Pts/Game	34.3 (1st)	29.3 (27th)

Offense on left and defense on right.

 

[Tottie]

This is NE to compare:

Yds/Game	317.7 (22nd)	282.3 (5th)
Rush Yds/Game	91.7 (24th)	122.7 (25th)
Pass Yds/Game	226.0 (19th)	159.7 (2nd)
Pts/Game	18.0 (26th)	17.0 (6th)

 

[VectorPrime]

It’s been 3 games. Pats fans spent like 15 years saying how what happens in September isn’t that important and you need to be playing your best football at Thanksgiving. So don’t everyone dare turn it around and say the Bucs are in trouble in week 3 at 2-1.

 

[VectorPrime]

Very real chance that Brady comes out onto the field at half up 30 and makes a Bane like speech to the crowd over how he’s freeing everyone from the prison they’re in by striking down their false gods.

 

[venecol]

This is NE to compare:

Yds/Game	317.7 (22nd)	282.3 (5th)
Rush Yds/Game	91.7 (24th)	122.7 (25th)
Pass Yds/Game	226.0 (19th)	159.7 (2nd)
Pts/Game	18.0 (26th)	17.0 (6th)

Looks like both teams will be airing it out. Bucs because that's their forte, so it'll be strength vs strength (pats secondary). Pats because their running hasn't impressed and they won't be able to against the Bucs front 7.

If Arians were a better coach, he would run it more against the Pats which are surprisingly 25? (wow), but he can't help himself w/ risk it no biscuit.

1. Will Mac perform against that weakened secondary?
2. Will Bucs front be able to pressure Mac (they haven't impressed, albeit against better OLs);
3. Will Pats secondary confuse enough to cause TOs?

Bucs shouldn't take this Pats team for granted, even with how terrible they're playing because Bill is going to use every trick to affect Brady. That's why Bucs should run, run, run, but they won't.

I think Pats have a chance, slight, but a chance. This won't be a blow out.

 

[Tottie]

Looks like both teams will be airing it out. Bucs because that's their forte, so it'll be strength vs strength (pats secondary). Pats because their running hasn't impressed and they won't be able to against the Bucs front 7.

If Arians were a better coach, he would run it more against the Pats which are surprisingly 25? (wow), but he can't help himself w/ risk it no biscuit.

1. Will Mac perform against that weakened secondary?
2. Will Bucs front be able to pressure Mac (they haven't impressed, albeit against better OLs);
3. Will Pats secondary confuse enough to cause TOs?

Bucs shouldn't take this Pats team for granted, even with how terrible they're playing because Bill is going to use every trick to affect Brady. That's why Bucs should run, run, run, but they won't.

I think Pats have a chance, slight, but a chance. This won't be a blow out.

Nah, I don't think so. Bucs will run on first down straight away for no yards on the first drive and then Brady will air it out all game. If MAC airs it out he will throw a bunch of INTs and if they run they will be 3 and out. If TB12 throws a few INTs you never know but I still don't think it's enough. It's a funny feeling being on the other end of a game the other team 'should win'. We took those games for granted for years. We won almost all of them.

 

[VectorPrime]

“Bill will use every trick to affect Brady” come on. He’s been straight out out coached in two of three games already.

 

[Tottie]

“Bill will use every trick to affect Brady” come on. He’s been straight out out coached in two of three games already.

BB doesn't even play so the kinds of tricks that are implied here won't work. TB isn't a rookie. Do the players have tricks or tendencies that might work? Especially the secondary? Maybe. Will it be enough? I doubt it.

 

[VectorPrime]

BB doesn't even play so the kinds of tricks that are implied here won't work. TB isn't a rookie. Do the players have tricks or tendencies that might work? Especially the secondary? Maybe. Will it be enough? I doubt it.

Remember when the former Giants defensive coach who beat the Pats in the Super Bowl twice was being hyped up as the Brady Killer before the Super Bow against the Chiefs and wow, turns out he can’t do shi.t against Brady without hall of famers on his defensive line.

 

[Tottie]

Remember when the former Giants defensive coach who beat the Pats in the Super Bowl twice was being hyped up as the Brady Killer before the Super Bow against the Chiefs and wow, turns out he can’t do shi.t against Brady without hall of famers on his defensive line.

Ya, exactly. Unless Brady has some ridiculous tendencies that can be picked up on film and relayed to the players. Remember when Suggs explained how he was going to pick off Manning by a pump fake tell he saw on film. They showed it all on a show one day and it was pretty cool. Sure enough Manning pump faked and tried to manipulate the safety to throw on the boundary and Suggs undercut it for I think a pick 6. Stuff like that maybe? I doubt it though.

 

[1960Pats]

He is turning into Favre.

He's got a long way to go to reach BrINT Favre, who btw is one of the players who cost the Pats a 19-0 season. He threw a game-ending pick vs the Giants in the NFCC. The Pats would have crushed that GB team.

 

[1960Pats]

Agree completely. Stafford was good but not great at all. Doesn't mean they can't win it all but we will see. Same thing with GB last night. It's funny I was actually shocked he was able to get them in FG range in 40 seconds. That's how anti-clutch he's been in his career. The jumped up and down like he won the SB. Nice win though I'll give it to them. SF couldn't figure out that Adams needed to be stopped on that drive but they still made the plays and then probably had a parade this morning to celebrate.

What I don't get is why did SF kick the ball into the end zone with 37 seconds left? Had they forced the Packers to catch the kick I don't think they'd have had enough time to get in FG range.

 

[sb1]

I'd throw everything at the Bucs and catch them by surprise, Onside kicks, fake kicks, trick plays, everything. That's what the Matt Flynn Packers did IIRC. That team had no business being competitive with the 2010 Pats in Foxboro and yet the Pats needed a once in a lifetime kick return from an offensive lineman to beat them.

I can also see us selling out to stop Brady from having a huge game by any means necessary- kind of like what we did to Peyton Manning a few years ago and it worked. Might not work this time but we'll try. If the Bucs run for 300 yards but Brady only throws for 200 and a TD then hey at least Bill can save face and say Brady didn't destroy us on his own.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Richard Sherman visiting Buccaneers

Richard Sherman has been looking for a place to play for some time and he will be headed to Tampa as part of that search.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[RicoG]

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Correction below

 

[VectorPrime]

I'd throw everything at the Bucs and catch them by surprise, Onside kicks, fake kicks, trick plays, everything. That's what the Matt Flynn Packers did IIRC. That team had no business being competitive with the 2010 Pats in Foxboro and yet the Pats needed a once in a lifetime kick return from an offensive lineman to beat them.

I can also see us selling out to stop Brady from having a huge game by any means necessary- kind of like what we did to Peyton Manning a few years ago and it worked. Might not work this time but we'll try. If the Bucs run for 300 yards but Brady only throws for 200 and a TD then hey at least Bill can save face and say Brady didn't destroy us on his own.

That Matt Flynn Packers team literally won the Super Bow that year. They were a pretty damn good roster!

 

[sb1]

That Matt Flynn Packers team literally won the Super Bow that year. They were a pretty damn good roster!

With Rodgers yes. Flynn not really. Pats should have thumped them.

 

[Zarozzor]