Brady Sr. Says what I’ve been saying all along.

[SHOWTIME15]

If you're going to ask me to meet the standard of proof of law enforcement, then I'll need subpoena power. Send me all of your PMs or password, or stop coming up with ridiculous cop-outs like asking me to prove you didn't PM Ian when we both know I have no access to your PMs.

You complained about it, as I said. You caused him to partition the forum, create a way for people to get notifications at the top of the main page (to see all forums), and created a problem when there was none. Then, despite Ian going to great lengths to separate the Brady/non-Brady advocates, you tread over to the Brady forum to annoy people, troll, and be a general *******. What's so complicated about this? You wanted two camps and a line drawn, and now you're over on the other side picking fights.

I have zero issue with others coming to the Brady forum to ***** and moan or give an anti-Brady take; I have an issue when someone does it, when that person complained and compelled the board's owner to create a safe space for him.

Then don't accuse me of pleading directly with Ian if you don't have the proof.

I am discussing Brady in this thread as he pertains to the Patriots. I hardly went on the Gronkaneers thread this year to complain about Brady or be anti-Brady. The sub-forum is not only for positive Brady takes it's also for negative ones. It's not a feel-good forum for Brady lovers.

And how am I trolling? By posting a Guerrero article where he accuses Bill of treating Brady like a kid? Is that what triggers you? Or me posting an article about Tom Sr. complaining about NE?

 

[RobertWeathers]

I appreciate this perspective. Most will not acknowledge this and blame everything on nonsensical reasons.

Bill no longer wanted Tom. Tom no longer wanted Bill. I believe that is more of the case than "Tom no longer wanted to be a Patriot"; while that statement is true, it's because he no longer wanted to play for Bill, or live by Bill's standards, or accept Bill's idea of a commitment

Exactly. I have no issue with the, 'Bill Didn't Want Tom' narrative. He didn't.

Tom evolved. Got older and was less inclined to deal/tolerate his role in Bill's program. It happens. Anyone who has worked at a company/same boss for 10 years can certainly relate. Bill knew this.

If Robert Kraft, seeing that his greatest player/icon was at odds with the coach/GM, he could have chosen to keep Tom over Bill. Ultimately I see this as a case where Belichick is who he is and can't change his stripes. Some of the same things that made him great - consistency and rigidness -can also be problematic depending on the situation, and this was one of them. In that sense, I am at peace with what Bill did. I am more annoyed by the alternate narratives being spun.

Yep. Bob had a choice. He knew what Bill's plan was. He knew what Tom wanted. He chose Bill.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I am discussing Brady in this thread as he pertains to the Patriots. I hardly went on the Gronkaneers thread this year to complain about Brady or be anti-Brady. The sub-forum is not only for positive Brady takes it's also for negative ones. It's not a feel-good forum for Brady lovers.

When someone is a crybaby, screams to the mods, and can't handle Tom Brady threads being on the main forum, I have zero interest in hearing that person's laughable take about how we need to get opinions from both sides.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

When someone is a crybaby, screams to the mods, and can't handle Tom Brady threads being on the main forum, I have zero interest in hearing that person's laughable take about how we need to get opinions from both sides.

Wow, you do get triggered easily.

And for the 1000th time, Brady threads as pertaining to the Bucs belong on a non-patriots sub-forum. If it were on the mainboard, it would devolve into a Brady vs Bill bashing exercise like the one that Ian had to shut down a few days ago. You would have multiple sniveling people like Kontra remind everyone every day that Bill is sub-500 without Brady, and you would have folks on the other side reminding Bradyites that Tom was a 6th round pick. The thread on the upcoming Bucs game, which Ian locked, turned into a Pats fan civil war which Ian did not want.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Wow, you do get triggered easily.

And for the 1000th time, Tom Brady threads as pertaining to the Bucs belong on a non-patriots sub-forum. If it were on the mainboard, it would devolve into a Brady vs Bill bashing exercise like the one that Ian had to shut down a few days ago. You would have multiple sniveling people like Kontra remind everyone every day that Bill is sub-500 without Brady, and you would have folks on the other side reminding Bradyites that Tom was a 6th round pick. The thread on the upcoming Bucs game, which Ian locked, turned into a Pats fan civil war which Ian did not want.

That thread that got locked right after it was going great, but then you made up a sexist connotation and got it shut down? That one? Hillarious how little self-awareness you have, being the actual reason behind all of these things...sub-forums created to shield you from Kontra's pistol whippings, after you mouth off to him...threads being shut down because you lie. Absolutely hillarious. You're like a little toddler who Ian needs to protect.

 

[IllegalContact]

Yet here you are in a Tom Brady forum even though the mere mention of his name causes you to post "He's gone. There is no Tom Brady" You're like Pavlov's dog hearing the dinner bell. If Brady doesn't exist why are you even looking at this forum?

so........do you have a point?

 

[Lagaffe_07]

That thread that got locked right after it was going great, but then you made up a sexist connotation and got it shut down? That one? Hillarious how little self-awareness you have, being the actual reason behind all of these things...sub-forums created to shield you from Kontra's pistol whippings, after you mouth off to him...threads being shut down because you lie. Absolutely hillarious. You're like a little toddler who Ian needs to protect.

Yeah, he is the one crying about we shouldn’t talk about Brady everytime but he is the one that derailed every thread. Ian created a sub forum because he was whining and now he comes here posting sh*t and derailed thread again. And with no surprise the mods are a no show as usual.

 

[1960Pats]

Arians could be a clown but the fact is that even without Brady, he has a winning record as a HC

That's more than Belichick can say.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

That thread that got locked right after it was going great, but then you made up a sexist connotation and got it shut down?

No, the thread got derailed when a Bradyite (@amfootball i think) blamed SB 52 on Bill's benching of Malcolm Butler. It went to hell long before Deus' comment.

 

[203Pat]

so........do you have a point?

 

[Kontradiction]

Gracious in defeat and humble in victory -- that's how classy athletes handle it.

“Humble in victory,” eh? Freddie Mitchell in 2005, Derrick Mason in 2009, Rex Ryan and the Jets’ D in 2011, and Adam Thielen in 2018 would all like to have a word with you on that one. Why not just admit that you’ll take his side because he’s still here? I can at least appreciate that. That just shows you’re a laundry guy. But you don’t need to make him out to be a saint. He’s never been humble in victory nor gracious in defeat. Not many competitors with a long-standing history of winning at the highest level are.

 

[Kontradiction]

I see the Fellowship of the Miserable Covid thread must be slowing down in the Pub since the raw sewage is floating back up to the football boards now.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I see the Fellowship of the Miserable Covid thread must be slowing down in the Pub since the raw sewage is floating back up to the football boards now.

 

[Kontradiction]

Maybe in the offseason.

 

[IllegalContact]

I see the Fellowship of the Miserable Covid thread must be slowing down in the Pub since the raw sewage is floating back up to the football boards now.

says the guy who's in tune with what young danes are sticking up their butts

 

[VectorPrime]

Boston Sports Legend Larry Bird sure as hell wasn’t a gracious loser so why should Brady who is even more important be?

 

[carmelo15]

This Mac guy is the worst up there with TommyBrady or whatever that dudes name was before Brady shut his ass up

 

[Kontradiction]

says the guy who's in tune with what young danes are sticking up their butts

Awesome burn.

 

[IllegalContact]

Awesome burn.

I just figured I'd roll along with the idea of you being critical of the same things you've done endlessly............keep that hat on

 

[Tunescribe]

“Humble in victory,” eh? Freddie Mitchell in 2005, Derrick Mason in 2009, Rex Ryan and the Jets’ D in 2011, and Adam Thielen in 2018 would all like to have a word with you on that one. Why not just admit that you’ll take his side because he’s still here? I can at least appreciate that. That just shows you’re a laundry guy. But you don’t need to make him out to be a saint. He’s never been humble in victory nor gracious in defeat. Not many competitors with a long-standing history of winning at the highest level are.

You're taking my post out of context -- it was in response to amfootball's post about Brady rubbing it in.