OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[amfootball]

Maybe we'll finally find out the real reason why Bill benched Butler and threw away the Super Bowl instead of the BS we've been hearing up to this point.

I certainly hope so.

 

[Zarozzor]

 

[amfootball]

He has literally zero pressure this year maybe for the first time in his career.

 

[Deus Irae]

The Buccaneers got another player back from the COVID-19 reserve list on Friday.

Offensive lineman Nick Leverett is back on the active roster. He was placed on the COVID list on August 27 along with fellow offensive lineman Earl Watford.

Watford and defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh remain on the list. Kicker Ryan Succop was activated on Thursday.

Bucs activate Nick Leverett, put Cam Gill on injured reserve - ProFootballTalk

 

[VectorPrime]

Well, in discussions on 98.5 on that upcoming book, following a mention from Holly last night who said that there are bombs in there, Jimmy Stewart (who does have connections don’t do the usual crap, he gets info on stuff and did about Brady last year) says that he can’t get a copy of the book so he hasn’t seen it but he’s HEARD that in the book that apparently people involved with the Pats were very concerned over Brady and Alex and the possibility of PEDs after Edelman tested positive in 2018. Now he didn’t say whether in the book the team sources say they think he uses them or just simply that they’re worried about it, again Jimmy doesn’t have a copy himself, but if it’s the former in there...Brady will never interact with Bill again.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Well, in discussions on 98.5 on that upcoming book, following a mention from Holly last night who said that there are bombs in there, Jimmy Stewart (who does have connections don’t do the usual crap, he gets info on stuff and did about Brady last year) says that he can’t get a copy of the book so he hasn’t seen it but he’s HEARD that in the book that apparently people involved with the Pats were very concerned over Brady and Alex and the possibility of PEDs after Edelman tested positive in 2018. Now he didn’t say whether in the book the team sources say they think he uses them or just simply that they’re worried about it, again Jimmy doesn’t have a copy himself, but if it’s the former in there...Brady will never interact with Bill again.

We all know Wickersham is fed by a pro-Bill source and that Bill has such a tight hold over the org that even the Butler benching is still to this day a secret.

If Brady is implied in this book to be using PEDs, the quote is designed to cast aspersions on him by its question alone. And this is exactly what Wickersham does…he reports actual quotes and actual sources, and he reiterates there is no evidence, but he knows the sensationalist media will jump all over it.

 

[Deus Irae]

Tom Brady in a season opener after winning a Super Bowl? In his career, he's 5-1 in such games, with 15 touchdown passes against one interception, averaging 305 passing yards. Lone loss was to Chiefs in 2017.

 

[amfootball]

Football players using Peds, you don't say?

If that is one of the "bombs" I think I will pass.

 

[Deus Irae]

Trying this again: Bucs have 12 games in white jerseys, three in red, two in pewter. Five different looks in all.

 

[Deus Irae]

Four of the 15 players on Bucs’ practice squad are considered veterans — S Andrew Adams, QB Ryan Griffin, WR Jaydon Mickens and TE Deon Yelder. Teams are allowed six veterans out of the 16 spots.

 

[Kargetina]

We all know Wickersham is fed by a pro-Bill source and that Bill has such a tight hold over the org that even the Butler benching is still to this day a secret.

If Brady is implied in this book to be using PEDs, the quote is designed to cast aspersions on him by its question alone. And this is exactly what Wickersham does…he reports actual quotes and actual sources, and he reiterates there is no evidence, but he knows the sensationalist media will jump all over it.

The biggest issue is that by insinuating that Brady had taken PED's, Belichick diminishes his legacy even further, Spygate, sub 50% record without Brady and even his achievements could only have been made by having a steroid abuser as his QB. I don't think whoever is supplying that info to Wickersham is very bright, whether it's Bill or someone else close to him.

This isn't tennis, where a coach tries to wash his hands of his pupil by creating rumors for being insulted after getting fired. If Brady took PED's, everyone's success and achievement with the Pats gets a dark cloud over it. 6 rings? No one would respect them again. The same goes with creating accusations. It's not only Brady's success that gets thrashed and tainted, it's Bill's, it's Kraft's, it's McDaniels', it's everyone.

How can people who have worked for the Pats, or are still working for them, be this dumb to throw under the bus the entire organization by thinking they are simply slandering Brady?

 

[amfootball]

The biggest issue is that by insinuating that Brady had taken PED's, Belichick diminishes his legacy even further, Spygate, sub 50% record without Brady and even his achievements could only have been made by having a steroid abuser as his QB. I don't think whoever is supplying that info to Wickersham is very bright, whether it's Bill or someone else close to him.

This isn't tennis, where a coach tries to wash his hands of his pupil by creating rumors for being insulted after getting fired. If Brady took PED's, everyone's success and achievement with the Pats gets a dark cloud over it. 6 rings? No one would respect them again. The same goes with creating accusations. It's not only Brady's success that gets thrashed and tainted, it's Bill's, it's Kraft's, it's McDaniels', it's everyone.

How can people who have worked for the Pats, or are still working for them, be this dumb to throw under the bus the entire organization by thinking they are simply slandering Brady?

I can see the Globe headline now:

'The Patriots Accuse Themselves of Cheating"

Shank, Volin, Felger would be doing summersaults and back hand springs.

 

[venecol]

I was wondering when the time comes, how involved Brady will be in Bowles defensive game plan against the Pats. No one knows the Pats O or how McDaniel thinks better than Brady. He practices against Bucs D so he can see how McD would try to attack their weaknesses.

I'm sure he'll have his hands full with the game plan for his offense but still, gotta believe he would be invaluable to Bowles.

 

[Guts]

Well, in discussions on 98.5 on that upcoming book, following a mention from Holly last night who said that there are bombs in there, Jimmy Stewart (who does have connections don’t do the usual crap, he gets info on stuff and did about Brady last year) says that he can’t get a copy of the book so he hasn’t seen it but he’s HEARD that in the book that apparently people involved with the Pats were very concerned over Brady and Alex and the possibility of PEDs after Edelman tested positive in 2018. Now he didn’t say whether in the book the team sources say they think he uses them or just simply that they’re worried about it, again Jimmy doesn’t have a copy himself, but if it’s the former in there...Brady will never interact with Bill again.

Lol PEDs? Tom doesn't look like somebody that takes PEDs

 

[1960Pats]

I know it was only the Texans but Brady looked great

 

[venecol]

Lol PEDs? Tom doesn't look like somebody that takes PEDs

 

[Tony2046]

We all know Wickersham is fed by a pro-Bill source and that Bill has such a tight hold over the org that even the Butler benching is still to this day a secret.

If Brady is implied in this book to be using PEDs, the quote is designed to cast aspersions on him by its question alone. And this is exactly what Wickersham does…he reports actual quotes and actual sources, and he reiterates there is no evidence, but he knows the sensationalist media will jump all over it.

Unproven PED allegations would hurt BB's legacy more than Brady's imo. Why go there?

 

[VectorPrime]

Unproven PED allegations would hurt BB's legacy more than Brady's imo. Why go there?

It would be a really weird place to go. Which makes me feel (hope) that it isn’t an accusation but just a fear that Edelman popping had to do with Alex.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Yes, Mr Wickersham. I swear, that’s exactly what I overheard!

 

[amfootball]

It would be a really weird place to go. Which makes me feel (hope) that it isn’t an accusation but just a fear that Edelman popping had to do with Alex.

This is what is so ridiculous IMO about Wickersham. Our media covered the Edelman PED ad nauseam replete with Alex accusations. In fact IIRC, Alex came out the day Edelman was penalized with a statement distancing himself from the incident saying he had no knowledge of Edelman taking PEDs.

But here's Wickersham swooping in years later with his "sources" pretending the story is his when he is just hijacking what was already covered adding some juicer, most likely made up quotes from people "close to Kraft or Bill."

The guy is the very definition of second rate and IMO a complete clown.