Drew Bledsoe: "Give Cam Newton a Full Year"

[PatsFanSince74]

Yeah absolutely. Great point. This offensive cast was so bad last year even the goat the year prior didn't do much once AB left.

Makes a ton of sense to give Cam a try this year, see how well it goes, no need to rush the rookie. Obviously reconsider if Cam isn't cutting it. Just think it's weird there are people here who don't want Cam to succeed or the Patriots to win if the rookie isn't playing.

Yes. And you can't expect him to play his best with the threat of the plug being pulled if he gets off to a slow start with a new cast of characters.

If BB and Josh are ready to go "all in" on Mac Jones, they'll do it. Period. If the Iggles game is any indication, they have a nice problem on their hands, even if Philly was sitting most of its starters on D.

But with Cam going 8/9 for 150 yards, a TD and no picks on three series, there's no way it's less likely he'll start the season. Mac's stats were solid, but leading a 90 yard drive for a rushing TD and killing nine minutes of clock after setting foot on the field for the first time was more impressive than any Pass Rating. As I said, it's a nice problem to have.

As I see it, the Pats are a team in rebuilding mode, not panic mode. No team that appeared in ten and won seven of 20 SB's over the last two decades has to panic about anything. These aren't the Jills or Jetes.

If Cam continues that kind of solid play when he's facing first string, live ammunition, there's no reason to rush the Rookie or anyone else onto the field. I say start Cam as long as the Pats are winning or competitive in games they should win or be competitive in and let Jones learn. If things aren't working out, change the plan.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Yes. And you can't expect him to play his best with the threat of the plug being pulled if he gets off to a slow start with a new cast of characters.

If BB and Josh are ready to go "all in" on Mac Jones, they'll do it. Period. If the Iggles game is any indication, they have a nice problem on their hands, even if Philly was sitting most of its starters on D.

But with Cam going 8/9 for 150 yards, a TD and no picks on three series, there's no way it's less likely he'll start the season. Mac's stats were solid, but leading a 90 yard drive for a rushing TD and killing nine minutes of clock after setting foot on the field for the first time was more impressive than any Pass Rating. As I said, it's a nice problem to have.

As I see it, the Pats are a team in rebuilding mode, not panic mode. No team that appeared in ten and won seven of 20 SB's over the last two decades has to panic about anything. These aren't the Jills or Jetes.

If Cam continues that kind of solid play when he's facing first string, live ammunition, there's no reason to rush the Rookie or anyone else onto the field. I say start Cam as long as the Pats are winning or competitive in games they should win or be competitive in and let Jones learn. If things aren't working out, change the plan.

Absolutely.

Well said.

 

[Sicilian]

No matter the topic, every thread ends one of two ways:

1) Locked due to insanity

2) Two people who agree with each other just going back and forth making posts agreeing with the previous one.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

No matter the topic, every thread ends one of two ways:

1) Locked due to insanity

2) Two people who agree with each other just going back and forth making posts agreeing with the previous one.

I dunno about that.

But with Cam essentially playing as PERFECT as one could be in the last preseason game, it's definitely becoming weird for the Cam haters to keep chirping.

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[Zuma]

I dunno about that.

But with Cam essentially playing as PERFECT as one could be in the last preseason game, it's definitely becoming weird for the Cam haters to keep chirping.

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I am a huge Mac fan but Cam did play really well. I'm optimistic.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

No matter the topic, every thread ends one of two ways:

1) Locked due to insanity

2) Two people who agree with each other just going back and forth making posts agreeing with the previous one.

I actually, legitimately feel bad for the OP. No joke. Seems like he craves attention and acceptance (he's dying to make friends with posters). I say that bc how many threads and spam post he creates. Fine line between class clown and waste of time. His threads are fun for about a minute. Ultimately it's a mod/Ian problem. The only thing that bothers me is when he disrupts other threads that actually want to talk football.

Also extremely "absolute" in his post. Like things have to be a certain way. It's nice to have conviction but he comes across very casual in that respect.

 

[Dingleberry]

Agreed Ring 6 is completely full of ****, one could argue he couldn't get any more full of **** than he/it currently is a long with 70% of people on this board.

For instance:

Yea man. Sure. Because I'm sure at some point in your life there has never been a time where instances happened outside of your control that impacted your ability to perform one way or another. I mean how can you even call yourself a football fan if you don't even understand how football works or is supposed to be played? What is the point of having an offseason every year? What's the point of OTAs? Mini camp? Training camp? Why does every single team at every level of the sport "waste" their time with these practices if they dont have any effect or bearing on how a team performs during the season?

Unlike 31 other starting NFL Qbs last year, Cam did not get to partake in any of those practices, he had 5 weeks to learn the playbook. F I V E. If you don't think for a second that that had any impact on Cam's ability to perform last year you are kidding yourself. And even still Cam had the Patriots one playcall away from being 3-0 before he got Covid. Oh know!!! I mentioned it! Cam Newton got Covid before their week 4 game! No excuses though, right? Even though Cam had to miss that week/game + another week of practice after already being behind on the playbook and it finally caught up to him. His lack of knowledge/comfortability in the offense really showed after that happened. Totally unacceptable. What a garbage Qb right? Man. I'm legit surprised some of you have made it this far in life having virtually 0 common sense. It's really sad to see

Oh yea, and don't even get me started on the offensive weapons around Cam. Damiere Byrd, where is he at these days? You know Cam's #1 WR last year? You didn't forget about him did you? Well thank god N'keal Harry was lined up on the opposite side to take some of the pressure off right? Or what about the ghosts you guys had playing TE last year? None of that matters right? None of that should have any impact on Cam's ability to perform, right? What a joke you are to say crap like that. Learn the game first then voice your opinion. I recommend the book Football for Dummies, or an Almanac or something, educate yourself. Happy reading.

Welcome to the board Mrs. Newton.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I am a huge Mac fan but Cam did play really well. I'm optimistic.

I'm optimistic too. Look their styles are different. Cam can only throw 10-20 yard bullet passes but best case this team could contend, I really think so. Mac could be Tom 2.0 but waiting a year could be good too.

 

[Pats1971]

I dunno about that.

But with Cam essentially playing as PERFECT as one could be in the last preseason game, it's definitely becoming weird for the Cam haters to keep chirping.

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Not a hater, but I will wait till the regular season. If we go by preseason then the Jets Qb is joe Montana.

 

[Pats1971]

Agree. And, people have a short memory about the "Brady is done" comments out here two seasons ago when he was surrounded by mediocrities. I'm NOT comparing Brady to Cam, but I am saying that the latter hasn't even had a chance to show if he still "has it." If he doesn't, BB will be the first to pull the plug and see if someone else can do the job.

Cam has not been good in 5 years, a tad different than Brady Only going 12-4 and having 24 td's and 12 ints. If Cam did that last year, we would not be trying to ship him off like fans did with brady. If Brady went 7-9 and had more ints than td's, I would be calling for him being shipped off...that is the difference.

 

[Pats1971]

This is true. Those who evaluate Cam this way seem to forget even the goat only averaged 17 points per game in this offense, after AB was cut, over the last 10 weeks of his last Pats season.

Brady had 4000 passing yards, 24 td's and 12 ints, and we went 12-4. If Brady did what Cam did last year, they would have lynched him in front of Boston Common.

 

[Pats1971]

Nah. I think it will be tough for you to accept when Cam starts as QB. Will you root for the Patriots to win ?

I always root for the patriots to win, but that does not mean I have to love all players unconditionally if they are not helping said team win. There have been plenty players come to this team and fail, I do not remember the outpouring of love for them. If you were a Cam fan before he came here then so be it, I was not, and if he does not play better, I wont be when he leaves.

 

[Tony2046]

There was no covid fog, he was ASYMPTOMATIC he said so himself. Stop making excuses. At least you accept he played like crap now you just need to drop the excuses.

I don't think you understand what asymptomatic means. What it doesn't mean is that you couldn't suffer from side effects of the virus.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Brady had 4000 passing yards, 24 td's and 12 ints, and we went 12-4. If Brady did what Cam did last year, they would have lynched him in front of Boston Common.

Yea that's fair. Interesting that the Pats only scored 17 pts per game after AB was cut, so the goat still only led an offense the last 10 weeks that were poor on offense.

Also statistically it's hard to put it all on Cam because notice how the OC never called play action in the red zone last year. The play calling was a major reason for red zone ineptitude.

 

[Pats1971]

Yea that's fair. Interesting that the Pats only scored 17 pts per game after AB was cut, so the goat still only led an offense the last 10 weeks that were poor on offense.

Also statistically it's hard to put it all on Cam because notice how the OC never called play action in the red zone last year. The play calling was a major reason for red zone ineptitude.

They had the same OC. i am sure if Josh was not calling the right plays Bill would have said something, maybe they did not trust Cam in that area of the field to throw. The pats passing game last year was the worst its ever been in the last 30 years, so again, not sure why this is a comparion. While the offense was not a strong point in 2019, it did not take the pats back 30 years. 27th in passing does not usually win much. That has to get better. If it doesnt, then we need someone in there that can make it better.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

They had the same OC. i am sure if Josh was not calling the right plays Bill would have said something, maybe they did not trust Cam in that area of the field to throw. The pats passing game last year was the worst its ever been in the last 30 years, so again, not sure why this is a comparion. While the offense was not a strong point in 2019, it did not take the pats back 30 years. 27th in passing does not usually win much. That has to get better. If it doesnt, then we need someone in there that can make it better.

Yea. Bill seems more focused on the defense. It's too bad the Eagles did too much due diligence on McD.

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[Pats1971]

Yea. Bill seems more focused on the defense. It's too bad the Eagles did too much due diligence on McD.

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Bill has always been that way though. I have not been a great fan of McD as a coordinator. I think he kind of rode a great QB to his glory. I have seen flat out strange weirde playcalling from him and when the offense is really going, it was Brady pretty much controlling things. McDaniels has his moments, but he is not savant.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

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[DropKickFlutie]

"Last year [Cam] got the short end of the stick, just having to be thrown into the situation with no preseason and everything. Not trying to make excuses for him or anything, but I think this year is definitely a leap forward, and I think we're all growing as an offense." -Jacobi Meyers

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

"Last year [Cam] got the short end of the stick, just having to be thrown into the situation with no preseason and everything. Not trying to make excuses for him or anything, but I think this year is definitely a leap forward, and I think we're all growing as an offense." -Jacobi Meyers

Not making excuses! But if I were to make excuses, here are some…

How did other guys doing just being thrown into a situation with no preseason?

Brady, 11-5, Won Super Bowl.
Rivers, 10-6, made postseason.
Fitzpatrick, 4-3, 95 passer rating.
Herbert, Rookie of Year, one of the best seasons ever for a rookie. 31 TD, 10 INT.
Burrow, 13 TD, 5 INT prior to injury. Rookie.