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Drew Bledsoe: "Give Cam Newton a Full Year"

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DropKickFlutie

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Brady had 4000 passing yards, 24 td's and 12 ints, and we went 12-4. If Brady did what Cam did last year, they would have lynched him in front of Boston Common.

Yea that's fair. Interesting that the Pats only scored 17 pts per game after AB was cut, so the goat still only led an offense the last 10 weeks that were poor on offense.

Also statistically it's hard to put it all on Cam because notice how the OC never called play action in the red zone last year. The play calling was a major reason for red zone ineptitude.
 

Pats1971

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Yea that's fair. Interesting that the Pats only scored 17 pts per game after AB was cut, so the goat still only led an offense the last 10 weeks that were poor on offense.

Also statistically it's hard to put it all on Cam because notice how the OC never called play action in the red zone last year. The play calling was a major reason for red zone ineptitude.
They had the same OC. i am sure if Josh was not calling the right plays Bill would have said something, maybe they did not trust Cam in that area of the field to throw. The pats passing game last year was the worst its ever been in the last 30 years, so again, not sure why this is a comparion. While the offense was not a strong point in 2019, it did not take the pats back 30 years. 27th in passing does not usually win much. That has to get better. If it doesnt, then we need someone in there that can make it better.
 

DropKickFlutie

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They had the same OC. i am sure if Josh was not calling the right plays Bill would have said something, maybe they did not trust Cam in that area of the field to throw. The pats passing game last year was the worst its ever been in the last 30 years, so again, not sure why this is a comparion. While the offense was not a strong point in 2019, it did not take the pats back 30 years. 27th in passing does not usually win much. That has to get better. If it doesnt, then we need someone in there that can make it better.

Yea. Bill seems more focused on the defense. It's too bad the Eagles did too much due diligence on McD.

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Pats1971

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Yea. Bill seems more focused on the defense. It's too bad the Eagles did too much due diligence on McD.

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Bill has always been that way though. I have not been a great fan of McD as a coordinator. I think he kind of rode a great QB to his glory. I have seen flat out strange weirde playcalling from him and when the offense is really going, it was Brady pretty much controlling things. McDaniels has his moments, but he is not savant.
 

DropKickFlutie

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"Last year [Cam] got the short end of the stick, just having to be thrown into the situation with no preseason and everything. Not trying to make excuses for him or anything, but I think this year is definitely a leap forward, and I think we're all growing as an offense." -Jacobi Meyers
 

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"Last year [Cam] got the short end of the stick, just having to be thrown into the situation with no preseason and everything. Not trying to make excuses for him or anything, but I think this year is definitely a leap forward, and I think we're all growing as an offense." -Jacobi Meyers

Not making excuses! But if I were to make excuses, here are some…

How did other guys doing just being thrown into a situation with no preseason?

Brady, 11-5, Won Super Bowl.
Rivers, 10-6, made postseason.
Fitzpatrick, 4-3, 95 passer rating.
Herbert, Rookie of Year, one of the best seasons ever for a rookie. 31 TD, 10 INT.
Burrow, 13 TD, 5 INT prior to injury. Rookie.
 

DropKickFlutie

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Not making excuses! But if I were to make excuses, here are some…

How did other guys doing just being thrown into a situation with no preseason?

Brady, 11-5, Won Super Bowl.
Rivers, 10-6, made postseason.
Fitzpatrick, 4-3, 95 passer rating.
Herbert, Rookie of Year, one of the best seasons ever for a rookie. 31 TD, 10 INT.
Burrow, 13 TD, 5 INT prior to injury. Rookie.

For Brady that was his second season, he spent a full year learning before playing, and has said he wasn't physically ready his rookie year.

All those other guys, yeah I don't consider those seasons a success given their teams didn't contend. I think Big Ben's season might be the best comp and even then a rookie QB got exposed in the playoffs.

But I hear you. I don't think Mac would have a bad year if he played. The kid studies too hard and wants to be good. But if one assumes Belichick really really really wants to win it all this year, do you think Mac could pull that off? I think a hardworking rookie will still get tripped up in the playoffs by some talented DCoordinators.
 

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For Brady that was his second season, he spent a full year learning before playing, and has said he wasn't physically ready his rookie year.

All those other guys, yeah I don't consider those seasons a success given their teams didn't contend. I think Big Ben's season might be the best comp and even then a rookie QB got exposed in the playoffs.

But I hear you. I don't think Mac would have a bad year if he played. The kid studies too hard and wants to be good. But if one assumes Belichick really really really wants to win it all this year, do you think Mac could pull that off? I think a hardworking rookie will still get tripped up in the playoffs by some talented DCoordinators.

I’m referring to the 2020 season.
 

DropKickFlutie

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I’m referring to the 2020 season.

Oh. You mean Cam? I think joining so late on July 28th didn't help. Those other guys didn't fall behind getting covid either. And I would say the Pats had the worst TE/WRs among all those teams. But it's true that Cam has basically no more excuses, and it's encouraging the guy played almost perfect against the Eagles.
 

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Not making excuses! But if I were to make excuses, here are some…

How did other guys doing just being thrown into a situation with no preseason?

Brady, 11-5, Won Super Bowl.
Rivers, 10-6, made postseason.
Fitzpatrick, 4-3, 95 passer rating.
Herbert, Rookie of Year, one of the best seasons ever for a rookie. 31 TD, 10 INT.
Burrow, 13 TD, 5 INT prior to injury. Rookie.
Huh?
Brady had plenty of pre season quality reps. Simply out performed Drew.
PLUS: Brady was NOT 11-5. He was 11-3. Drew lost the 1st two.
 

DropKickFlutie

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Huh?
Brady had plenty of pre season quality reps. Simply out performed Drew.
PLUS: Brady was NOT 11-5. He was 11-3. Drew lost the 1st two.

Brady was working out in Tampa in the spring breaking covid quarantine, throwing to new teammates, and walking in on random Tampa neighbor's houses, while Cam didn't even get into Foxboro until early August'20.
 

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It's amazing how many excuses are being thrown out there for Cam's poor play at QB. There has never been a Pats QB that played so poorly and got a free pass from the fans like Cant Newton has. Anyone have any ideas why?
 

masterbouncer

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It's amazing how many excuses are being thrown out there for Cam's poor play at QB. There has never been a Pats QB that played so poorly and got a free pass from the fans like Cant Newton has. Anyone have any ideas why?
he has had an MVP season in 2015, is a good teammate, has nice teeth and is dressed extraordinary
who cares about the rest? why should he be able to throw consistently accurate passes? who needs this in nowadays NFL?
 

203Pat

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It's amazing how many excuses are being thrown out there for Cam's poor play at QB. There has never been a Pats QB that played so poorly and got a free pass from the fans like Cant Newton has. Anyone have any ideas why?
This is where I am at. No one is asking for Brady like play at QB. What we are asking for is an NFL QB who can physically throw a football. Covid, late to camp and all the 30 other excuses aside. Watch him throw the ball last year and tell me any of those excuses had anything to do with it.
 

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Yea that's fair. Interesting that the Pats only scored 17 pts per game after AB was cut, so the goat still only led an offense the last 10 weeks that were poor on offense.

Also statistically it's hard to put it all on Cam because notice how the OC never called play action in the red zone last year. The play calling was a major reason for red zone ineptitude.
The patriots score 24.5 ppg after brown was cut not 17.
 

NYCPATS4LIFE

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It's amazing how many excuses are being thrown out there for Cam's poor play at QB. There has never been a Pats QB that played so poorly and got a free pass from the fans like Cant Newton has. Anyone have any ideas why?

It’s not only that . Mac Jones is the future of this franchise and not cam newton. I expect mac daddy to keep playing well as long as he gets the protection.
 

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This is where I am at. No one is asking for Brady like play at QB.
I am.
I expect equal if not better QB play than 2001 Brady, game manager of screen passes
The bar is not that high
 

203Pat

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I am.
I expect equal if not better QB play than 2001 Brady, game manager of screen passes
The bar is not that high
I am fine with the 2021 equivalent of 2001 Brady. The game is completely different than it was back then but I would be happy to let Mac take what the defense gives, don't force throws, and make a few plays that need to be made as the season goes on.
 

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