Deshaun Watson accused of sexual assault in lawsuit

[Simpelton]

No one had said they believe the women without proof

You've spent the last umpteen pages putting me on blast for not doing exactly this. Apparently "Hey wait a minute, they haven't proved anything yet, maybe wait for some proof one way or the other?" is sexist, misogynist and disgusting somehow.

You know what? If I was a woman I wouldn't WANT you for an ally. You getting tied up in knots like this over someone simply discussing the facts of the case do women's issues more harm than good.

BTW Ring 6: This might come as an absolutely discombobulating shock to you, but men have sex sometimes, and when discussing a case like this, it's pretty relevant to discuss boy-sexy-stuff. If you can't handle that I recommend you find the principal, he'll take your hand and get you back to kindergarten.

I'm done playing nice with you about this stuff because you basically just called me a rapist enabler for trying to get discuss the meat (heh) of the case.

 

[kennyb]

Yeah the texans are going to subborn purjury and commit felonies to destroy a disgruntled players trade value. Open themselves up to a billion dollar slander suit. Makes sense if you're in bizarro ville. Or a complete moron. Duh..

 

[kennyb]

Hard to speculate on this without knowing what exactly he's accused of. He ask for a happy ending? Whip it out? Not exactly deserving of destruction.

I would think the team would have professional sports masseuses they would use. An employee perhaps. Instead he's going to craigslist? Just bizarre.

And commenting and speculating doesn't violate his due process. That's absurd. Stop with the innocent until proven guilty nonsense. That's a legal standard. A message board isn't a courtroom. Speculation won't put him in jail or cost him money.

 

[fnordcircle]

Can someone explain to me why his lawyer is named Rusty Hardon?

 

[fnordcircle]

I would think the team would have professional sports masseuses they would use. An employee perhaps. Instead he's going to craigslist? Just bizarre.

idk I wish people would stop assuming any of us have any idea of what the life of an ultra rich sports person is like.

Bob Kraft went to the exact sort of parlor I would have gone to and I'm just some schlub with a 2006 Honda Accord and a poorly-funded 401k. A lot of people rejected the idea he did that out of hand because of their own fantastical ideas of what being a kajillionaire is like. As if he has cooz wranglers working for him or something.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

So will the team chaplain try to hold onto this guy ?

 

[Ring 6]

You've spent the last umpteen pages putting me on blast for not doing exactly this. Apparently "Hey wait a minute, they haven't proved anything yet, maybe wait for some proof one way or the other?" is sexist, misogynist and disgusting somehow.

You know what? If I was a woman I wouldn't WANT you for an ally. You getting tied up in knots like this over someone simply discussing the facts of the case do women's issues more harm than good.

BTW Ring 6: This might come as an absolutely discombobulating shock to you, but men have sex sometimes, and when discussing a case like this, it's pretty relevant to discuss boy-sexy-stuff. If you can't handle that I recommend you find the principal, he'll take your hand and get you back to kindergarten.

I'm done playing nice with you about this stuff because you basically just called me a rapist enabler for trying to get discuss the meat (heh) of the case.

You aren’t saying wait for the evidence you are calling the women liars, and suggesting they asked for it by being professional masseuses. Yes you are speaking like a rape enabler. Ironic that you can’t make a posts without a childish reference to make genitalia yet throw immaturity around.
Masseuses are professionals who are not sex workers. They do not consent to sex by giving a massage and should not give back the money if they do not wish to be sexually assaulted.

 

[venecol]

Lulu and Mingbi were professional masseuse. They even had a license. I bet they wish they had given back Early Bird Bob's money. But it's different since Tuggy apparently fell in love with them.

 

[Dingleberry]

Watson is an entitled twat and is guilty. Because I am not and will not be on a jury for this case, my opinion means nothing. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply to my opinion which is based on common sense. If this was Deshaun Watson, the stockbroker, there would be no jock sniffers around arguing that twenty-something women from the same profession are all colluding to bring this guy down.

But Watson seemed so squeaky clean! Just like Kirby Puckett, Tiger Woods, and countless other squeaky clean athletes. We do not know these people.

Would I take him as our QB after he serves his Roethlisberger suspension? I'll let you know after the draft. I'm a whore when it comes to winning.

 

[Simpelton]

Yeah the texans are going to subborn purjury and commit felonies to destroy a disgruntled players trade value. Open themselves up to a billion dollar slander suit. Makes sense if you're in bizarro ville. Or a complete moron. Duh..

What about the Texans suggests that they aren't run by complete morons?

All I'm saying is that the timing makes a blackmail attempt a theoretical possibility. This stuff comes to light suddenly, just as Watson is demanding a trade. It's not a smoking gun, but it makes you wonder.

And the Texans are neither a paragon of mental stability or good judgment in the last few years. I have no doubt that an ordinary franchise would N E V E R do something like this. The Texans? The inmates are running the asylum there, the field of things that they might do is... somewhat wider than normal.

 

[Simpelton]

You aren’t saying wait for the evidence you are calling the women liars,

OK little boy. You really need to stop doing this. if you can't grasp the difference between calling someone a liar and saying they haven't proven that what they're saying is true, then you're way too young to be participating in threads like this. Does your mommy know you're using the computer without permission?

And again, my point about occupational risk is quite valid, even if you're too immature to deal with it. When a woman works as a masseuse on a man, is given certain instructions, and agrees to be paid to follow those instructions, and then goes to work, and then accepts pay for doing that work, contract law says she accepts the obvious, clear and unambiguous consequences of doing that work.

When you stimulate the groin area on a male human, certain physical reactions are almost inevitable. Most boys figure that out between the ages of 12 and 15. I'm sorry this comes as such a shock to you, but maybe you should talk to daddy about it if you need more information.

To keep this child friendly, if you pay someone to stimulate that particular area, and they deal with the natural physical consequences of stimulating that area, do you think they retain the right to be shocked and disgusted when those consequences happen? Especially if they took Watson's money?

 

[venecol]

I don't think any of us can make an informed decision on this until we get more information. For example, if the 18 masseuse that came out in support of Watson look like this:



And the accusers look like this:



Then I would lean towards saying he's guilty as sin. I'll just wait for the pictures.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

I don't think any of us can make an informed decision on this until we get more information. For example, if the 18 masseuse that came out in support of Watson look like this:

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And the accusers look like this:

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Then I would lean towards saying he's guilty as sin. I'll just wait for the pictures.

Damn I’m guilty as sin

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

I don't think any of us can make an informed decision on this until we get more information. For example, if the 18 masseuse that came out in support of Watson look like this:

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And the accusers look like this:

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Then I would lean towards saying he's guilty as sin. I'll just wait for the pictures.

Damn I’m guilty as sin as well

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

So will the team chaplain try to hold onto this guy ?

 

[venecol]

I think that when Watson asked the masseuse to stick their fingers in his anus, it just means he wasn't properly reared as a child.

 

[Ring 6]

OK little boy. You really need to stop doing this. if you can't grasp the difference between calling someone a liar and saying they haven't proven that what they're saying is true, then you're way too young to be participating in threads like this. Does your mommy know you're using the computer without permission?

[/QUOTE]
Typical. Attack the person to deflect the discussion.
You have strongly implied numerous times that they are liars. You haven’t come close to a neutral wait and see approach. You think if your hero did it, they deserved it.

And again, my point about occupational risk is quite valid, even if you're too immature to deal with it. When a woman works as a masseuse on a man, is given certain instructions, and agrees to be paid to follow those instructions, and then goes to work, and then accepts pay for doing that work, contract law says she accepts the obvious, clear and unambiguous consequences of doing that work.

And uncovering himself, touching them with his penis, pressuring them to touch it, and trying to force them to perform oral sex, as well as asking to massage the inside of his anus are far from obvious, clear and unambiguous consequences.

When you stimulate the groin area on a male human, certain physical reactions are almost inevitable. Most boys figure that out between the ages of 12 and 15. I'm sorry this comes as such a shock to you, but maybe you should talk to daddy about it if you need more information.

To keep this child friendly, if you pay someone to stimulate that particular area, and they deal with the natural physical consequences of stimulating that area, do you think they retain the right to be shocked and disgusted when those consequences happen? Especially if they took Watson's money?

The fact that he became aroused is not even a small piece of the issue.

I’m going to stop here because your attitude toward women is disgusting and I really don’t want to be responsible for you repeating it.

 

[Ring 6]

OK little boy. Does your mommy know you're using the computer without permission Most boys figure that out between the ages of 12 and 15. I'm sorry this comes as such a shock to you, but maybe you should talk to daddy about it if you need more information.

[/QUOTE]

By the way these are some ironic comments from a self described idiot who lived with mommy, couldn’t find a job for 3 years abd asked advice on a football message board about how can people afford to pay rent.

 

[Ollie]

OK little boy. You really need to stop doing this. if you can't grasp the difference between calling someone a liar and saying they haven't proven that what they're saying is true, then you're way too young to be participating in threads like this. Does your mommy know you're using the computer without permission?

And again, my point about occupational risk is quite valid, even if you're too immature to deal with it. When a woman works as a masseuse on a man, is given certain instructions, and agrees to be paid to follow those instructions, and then goes to work, and then accepts pay for doing that work, contract law says she accepts the obvious, clear and unambiguous consequences of doing that work.

When you stimulate the groin area on a male human, certain physical reactions are almost inevitable. Most boys figure that out between the ages of 12 and 15. I'm sorry this comes as such a shock to you, but maybe you should talk to daddy about it if you need more information.

To keep this child friendly, if you pay someone to stimulate that particular area, and they deal with the natural physical consequences of stimulating that area, do you think they retain the right to be shocked and disgusted when those consequences happen? Especially if they took Watson's money?

I'm a massage therapist, i know a lot of women therapists. Accidental boners happen but is an accidental boner what happened here? You dont accept that there can be anymore than that.

 

[Sam Bam Cunningham]

Innocent until proven guilty ONLY applies to jury members and court officers. Those of us in the general public have the right to believe whatever we want to believe.
Regarding Watson...None of us have any idea if what he did crossed a line or not.

However the sheer number of female masseuses he contacted and employed seems to circumstantially indicate that he has an obsessive perversion for peri inguinal stimulation. This by itself is probably not illegal but its extremely atypical behavior for a horny male his age.
He is entitled to be perverse and atypical as long as he did not break any laws.

Sometimes when there is smoke there is fire. Most of the time.