Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

[Le Numéro Douze]

But what about Cams feelings?

I'll buy him a new hat.

 

[TheRainMaker]

You took the time to spell out the longer word "DECISIONMAKING" but couldn't spell "long term"?

 

[Username]

No thanks

 

[Ollie]

Jimmy the Glass has had 1 successful season out of 7. You don’t trade a 2nd rd pick and pay a guy with that kind of history. If we can get him on a low risk fair deal, go for it. A 2nd and that kind of money though? No thanks.

I get the injury concerns i share them too but i don't it's fair to count his years a s a back up against him. the years should be a sa starter

 

[lancerman]

So much of this thread is wishful thinking on why the 49’ers are definitely going to get rid of him this year much less give us a good deal

 

[lancerman]

I get the injury concerns i share them too but i don't it's fair to count his years a s a back up against him. the years should be a sa starter

He had a chance to start a quarter of the season in 2016 and he got injured midway through his second game. His injury issues made him non reliable as even a back up

 

[bruinator]

No thanks

So much of this thread is wishful thinking on why the 49’ers are definitely going to get rid of him this year much less give us a good deal

 

[Simpelton]

There are other excellent thread on QB, but I wanted to focus on a single issue.

WE HAVE A NEED FOR A QB FOR 2021!!!
How can it NOT be worth a 2nd to be able to have an excellent team in 2021.
Jimmy would be paid $26M, $25M AAV over 5 years ($25M bonus plus $1M salary) for a $6M cap hit . Surely the parties can work this out.
We would not be committed to Jimmy for 2022 or thereafter; we could trade him or cut him.

THIS NEED NOT AFFECT ANY DECISIONMAKING FOR THE DRAFT
If we don't believe that Jimmy is a LT answer, we would still do our best to trade up for a QB (or stay or trade down, as you would before the trade).
BTW, this way Lance becomes an even a better prospect, since he may not be ready to start early in 2021.

BECAUSE IF I SAY IT IN CAPS THAT MEANS IT MUST BE TRUE! ESPECIALLY WITH AS MANY EXCLAMATION POINTS AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!

Frankly at this point I'm not sure I even WANT JimmyG. Remember, Brissett was never supposed to start a single game in 2016, instead Jimmy gets hurt in game 2 and we have to throw out a rookie fresh from being drafted in the lower rounds, and then have to throw that rookie out there again with a busted thumb because he's all we have left.

Jimmy uses himself too hard and puts too much stress on his body with the way he plays. He's an injury waiting to happen. The dude has finished a season healthy ONCE in his entire career. No thank you. I'd rather roll with Cam, at least we know he can take the punishment,.

 

[holyredeemer]

I get the injury concerns i share them too but i don't it's fair to count his years a s a back up against him. the years should be a sa starter

That’s fair. Since 2016 I have him playing in 32 out of 57 games he should’ve played in. His best year, 2019 he managed the game behind a really strong Defense and a great running game. That team make up sounds familiar, and I k is he would do well. IF he could be depended on. That’s why I wouldn’t risk a 2nd rd pick and that high of a salary. I’d rather have his salary tied up in incentives and pick him up with a 4th at most.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

66% chance you'd waste a year of this roster on Jimmy IR

maybe he lasts, maybe he wont. But an effort needs to be made for an upgrade with all the spendings. and it seems bb is still very high on jg despite the injury concerns

 

[patman52]

I am ok with taking a flyer on him if he gets cut, there is no way I trade a day two asset for him. the guy played 6,6,2 and 16 games in the 4 years since he was gone and did not last two full games with us during Brady's suspension. BB loved him and I was very hopeful for him, but he is glass.

 

[masterbouncer]

maybe he lasts, maybe he wont. But an effort needs to be made for an upgrade with all the spendings. and it seems bb is still very high on jg despite the injury concerns

you don't go a give more then what you got for him since his stock went down since then, you look to get him for a comp 3rd or 4th, thats what the hope is worth that he can stay on the field....

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

 

[Ollie]

He had a chance to start a quarter of the season in 2016 and he got injured midway through his second game. His injury issues made him non reliable as even a back up

I get that but to say he has had success 1/7 years when he has been a back up for 4 of those years is just inaccurate. maybe 1 in 3.5 which still isn't great but its an accurate reflection.

 

[JMC00]

Not saying I wouldn't be fine with him, if he got released i'd be fine signing him but with his injury history not sure I'd want to give up a straight up 2nd(when you could use the pick if you wanted to move up if a QB was there at 4 or 5, i'd imagine that's where you have to if you want Fields or Lance,, I assume it would be Lance there, think 49ers will go for Fields) . A 3rd that could become a 2nd depending on much he played I might be ok with.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

you don't go a give more then what you got for him since his stock went down since then, you look to get him for a comp 3rd or 4th, thats what the hope is worth that he can stay on the field....

I agree id most likely give a 3rd or 4th , at the end if they dont budge maybe do a 2022 2nd rounder which will probably be alot lower than the 2nd we got from them. In another thread that advised to use a first, i compared it to selling a car for $5000 and buying it back 4 years later for $7000 after its had a bunch of issues.

 

[VJCPatriot]

I'm offering a 3rd round at best and only if JG agrees to a complete contract restructure. He's not worth 25m per year. 15M a year with incentives based on health and performance, OK I'd consider it.

 

[TheRainMaker]

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Yeah Lynch once again is full of s***.

 

[Ring 6]

Supposedly, they offered a 2nd and SF said no Maybe that's changed now, post SF leap up the boards.

I'd offer a third + Cam or a second, sure, if I thought JG was the guy to take the team forward.

A 3rd or newton and a second

 

[Ring 6]

The conventional wisdom is that the Patriots must trade up to the top 4 to get one of the elite QBs. If history has taught us anything is that BB doesn't follow conventional wisdom. He probably has his QB of the future picked out and it's probably going to be made in the 3rd round, Trask, Mond or Ramsey of Northwestern and the pick at #15 will be the BPA, likely a stud on defense. He's probably sitting there hoping that all the top picks are QB so he can draft 'his' player at 15........

Drafting a quarterback top 10 is a crapshoot, great if you hit, not so great if you don't and even worse if you mortgaged the future with multiple future first round picks to draft the next Ryan Leaf or Akili Smith....

When is the last time picking you qb of the future in the 3rd worked?
You are criticizing trading up to an area most of the good QBs came from because some failed in order to follow a plan that has almost never worked.