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Tom wouldn't have won a Super Bowl this season if he was a Patriot
TB has an A roster ... NE has a C- roster .. its not that hard to see
You're mad Brady left? Why? He wouldn't have won anything on the 2020 Pats roster
Yes, however, I was thinking that Jimmy wouldn't want to return with another veteran already on the roster.You could sign one of those guys and still get Jimmy technically if he becomes available.
Mike reiss was saying this.
See if Bill agrees.I'm not trading ANYTHING for Grop's contract, never mind a 1st-rounder.
Tom wouldn't have won a Super Bowl this season if he was a Patriot
TB has an A roster ... NE has a C- roster .. its not that hard to see
You're mad Brady left? Why? He wouldn't have won anything on the 2020 Pats roster
Just to point out:
Brady took the Patriots to 12 wins last year, even as the OL became a complete dumpster fire, and the WR corps collapsed. Brady would likely have been in position to improve upon 12-4 and a 1st round bounce this year, because the line was better.
Brady, when he's able to lead a functional offense, improves defenses, as well. Just ask the Bucs about that.He'd improve the offense without a doubt, but the defense this year suffered a LOT of losses and the schedule was harder. So I'm not convinced we win 12 again in 2020.
Brady, when he's able to lead a functional offense, improves defenses, as well. Just ask the Bucs about that.
A QB who can throw a football would have turned a C- roster into C+ or more.Tom wouldn't have won a Super Bowl this season if he was a Patriot
TB has an A roster ... NE has a C- roster .. its not that hard to see
You're mad Brady left? Why? He wouldn't have won anything on the 2020 Pats roster
Brady, when he's able to lead a functional offense, improves defenses, as well. Just ask the Bucs about that.
I agree, when he takes over for a QB who turned the ball over 31 times, he helps put that defense into a better situation. But Newton only turned the ball over 11 times last year. Tampa already had the #1 run defense in the league and a number of young players. I'm not going to give Tom Brady credit for everything.
Except our offense is not functional. Meyers was our top receiver. No tight ends, Edelman injured most of the year.
At least last year we had dorsett, Edelman, gordon(for some games) and AB for a game.
I'm not sure we go 12-4 and more than a wildcard loss again
Newton sucked. The offense with Newton sucked. Is it your position that Brady wouldn't have been able to get more points, keep the offense more competitive and, therefore, on the field more, and given the defense more minutes in a beneficial position?
Come on......
In 2011, Tom Brady took a football team who's defensive secondary was so bat that the team barely belonged in the playoffs all the way to within less than 5 minutes from winning a Super Bowl championship. In 2017, Tom Brady took a football team with a wildly overrated defense to within a head coach pout on SB day from winning a SB championship. In 2019, Tom Brady took a football team that had no business finishing with a winning record to a 12-4 season and a playoff berth. In 2020, Tom Brady took a football team that hadn't had a winning season in 4 years, hadn't won double digit games in 10 years, hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years, and hadn't won a playoff game in 18 years, and won the Super Bowl.
Yet, somehow, we've got people here who continue to try arguing that he couldn't have gotten the 2020 Patriots team to be a playoff team or any type of contender.
Both were the problem. I don't think cam newton had the best situation to succeed.The OL was better last year than in 2019. All I've read about on this site when I've gone back and looked threads over is how many times Cam supposedly missed seeing wide open receivers, or put the ball in the dirt 5 yards away from those supposedly open receivers. Well, y'all can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you try. If Newton was the problem, and the OL was better, and the WRs were getting open, then "But Brady couldn't have" fails miserably as an argument.
Sorry, but that's just logic and reality.
Not my position at all. But if you want me to say that Brady makes up for the loss of your top four linebackers, starting SS, NT, and a dropoff in play from Gilmore (not knocking him, it's hard to recreate a DPOY season), I simply disagree. This defense was taking a major step back this year, especially on run defense which put us in extremely difficult 3rd downs all year, and Brady wasn't going to fix that. But do you honestly think the 2020 roster outside of QB was better than the 2019 one? Better OL, yes. Possibly better WRs? At least when Edelman was still playing, but not after that. TE was a wash. Defense was significantly worse, and schedule was harder. It's not outlandish to suggest they don't win 12 games again given those circumstances.
Playoff team sure. Cam threw 8 tds, 8! Contender, absolutely not. You really think brady would win a championship throwing to jakobi meyers and byrd?