NFL to propose to improve a team's draft position if it hires a person of color as HC or GM

[Ring 6]

There is not a non college HC in the country that wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to be an assistant to Bill Belichick on the Patriots.

That is a job that every single person wanting to get into coaching would want. That is a job that hundreds of coaches and assistant coaches would love the opportunity to apply for.

That’s immediately putting an NFL team on your resume, that’s putting Bill Belichick on your resume. That’s a chance at pivoting to other jobs in the NFL right away. That’s in demand for a ton of college jobs right away,

The coaches kid with no experience that just got out of college got that opportunity that almost in the profession would view as basically a career foundation.

Acting like it’s grunt work shows exactly how foolish you are.

So you are implying bill belichick is racist??

And of course it is grunt work. What do you think he did his first year?


I don’t even understand why you are bringing this up. What does this have with racial proportions of head coaches?

I think you want to take a side, don’t have any facts so you are grasping at straws.

 

[Ring 6]

I think you are mixing up accounts

I think you are avoiding the facts.

 

[IllegalContact]

All 4 are young, potentially ascending players. Would you trade any of them (assuming contracts were the same) straight up for Newton? With the exception of possibly Stidham, the answer would be a definitive no.

not at all......BUT I would take Newton on a 1 year deal over a 5-6 year commitment to any of them.....none 0f them are better than Newton RIGHT NOW.

 

[iapatsfan]

Then you should be capable of making a better argument than holding him to

1. a year he was injured and played two games

2. saying he wouldn’t run when he ran fine two years ago before his injury

3. Repeating one stat over and over again

The argument is based on his entire career. You are using a single season as evidence his career numbers are not valid. He is what he is...a 31 year old poor NFL passer.

If you're correct, and '18 is a better indicator of his abilities than his entire career - He'll be an effective NFL starter this season.

If I'm correct - He'll be a backup QB this season.

Which is more likely to happen?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Here's a good article about Newton and breaks down completion % versus accuracy. I've noticed for a long time what this article also argues, which is that completion % often rewards QBs who throw a lot of screens and dumpoffs. For example, watch a Saints game with Mr. 70% and tell me, honestly, how many of those throws are actually into a tight, contested windows downfield. Not many. When Tedy Bridgewater came off the bench last year, he hit on 68%.

What they get wrong about the Panthers

 

[IllegalContact]

1 data point is better than 9? Really?

yup.....what happened 5+ years ago is irrelevant in comparison to more recent data......BRady after 30 is a completely different QB to the Brady.

you're not going to succeed with the point you are trying to make ..... you are failing......you have failed......if you had any additional points to make you would have made them.

move along, nothing to see here

 

[IllegalContact]

Here's a good article about Newton and breaks down completion % versus accuracy. I've noticed for a long time what this article also argues, which is that completion % often rewards QBs who throw a lot of screens and dumpoffs. For example, watch a Saints game with Mr. 70% and tell me, honestly, how many of those throws are actually into a tight, contested windows downfield. Not many. When Tedy Bridgewater came off the bench last year, he had a 68% accuracy.

What they get wrong about the Panthers

throwing to ted ginn, devin funchess, torrey smith, kelvin benjamin do not help

 

[RobertWeathers]

Here's a good article about Newton and breaks down completion % versus accuracy. I've noticed for a long time what this article also argues, which is that completion % often rewards QBs who throw a lot of screens and dumpoffs. For example, watch a Saints game with Mr. 70% and tell me, honestly, how many of those throws are actually into a tight, contested windows downfield. Not many. When Tedy Bridgewater came off the bench last year, he had a 68% accuracy.

What they get wrong about the Panthers

Numbers support this.

Cam Newton - Player Profile Advanced Football Stats, Metrics & Analytics

 

[IllegalContact]

Is accuracy important for an NFL QB?

Ryan Tannehill > Russell Wilson

 

[Jangles]

It’s literally not

care to elaborate lol

if the company I work for got an incentive from the government for hiring me because I was white what would you call it

 

[Jangles]

read the attached.........it describes those railing against this rule to a 'T'

No thanks

Don’t really care about a study promoting the “good kind” of racism

 

[TB_Helmet]

Here's a good article about Newton and breaks down completion % versus accuracy. I've noticed for a long time what this article also argues, which is that completion % often rewards QBs who throw a lot of screens and dumpoffs. For example, watch a Saints game with Mr. 70% and tell me, honestly, how many of those throws are actually into a tight, contested windows downfield. Not many. When Tedy Bridgewater came off the bench last year, he hit on 68%.

What they get wrong about the Panthers

That article is probably gonna be too complicated for some people.

 

[lancerman]

That article is probably gonna be too complicated for some people.

It’s well above the pay grade of

“his completion percentage is 59%”

“sorry but his average completion percentage is 59%”

“I told you he’s 59%”

 

[Brewskies]

Are you claiming there are no "egregious" cases of qualified white candidates being overlooked? Qualified people get overlooked all the time. What's your point?

No black candidates not white

 

[IllegalContact]

No thanks

Don’t really care about a study promoting the “good kind” of racism

the only thing that worse than being a racist is being called a racist

 

[IllegalContact]

care to elaborate lol

if the company I work for got an incentive from the government for hiring me because I was white what would you call it

poster child argument for todays bigotry

read the article I posted........it addresses exactly what you just said

 

[1960Pats]

Football is the game that came up with "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" and now we're suppose to believe that teams aren't trying to win because they're racist. I'm not buying that.

If a coach of any shape or color gave an owner a chance to win I think that they'd jump at it. The real question is why isn't that happening. Are there less minorities coaching because they don't aspire to become coaches?

 

[iapatsfan]

yup.....what happened 5+ years ago is irrelevant in comparison to more recent data......BRady after 30 is a completely different QB to the Brady.

you're not going to succeed with the point you are trying to make ..... you are failing......you have failed......if you had any additional points to make you would have made them.

move along, nothing to see here

You're claiming Cam Newton is a quality passing QB. That is the definition of failing. I'm simply stating the obvious. It's not even a debate.

 

[iapatsfan]

Ryan Tannehill > Russell Wilson

Once again....Is accuracy important for an NFL QB?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Once again....Is accuracy important for an NFL QB?

As a statistical metric? No.

As something a QB needs to be more often than not so his team can move the football and score touchdowns?

Absolutely.