NFL to propose to improve a team's draft position if it hires a person of color as HC or GM

[Jangles]

I’m glad the NFL is adopting such a progressive stance.

It’s high time we as a nation start fighting racism by punishing the hiring of one race while rewarding the hiring of another

 

[IllegalContact]

People using Archie Bunker as an example for anything, much like people in this thread using Good Times as their example of a television show with black people in it despite that show not having aired new episodes for the past THREE DECADES, have bigger issues regarding what's currently culturally relevant than the present state of diversity representation among NFL front offices.

theres lots of Archie Bunkers out there still today

 

[IllegalContact]

Some type of program to create a pipeline for minorities to have an easier path into the league at the coaching level. After that the high positions need to be earned ... same as the players on the field. There are many disaster stories of people attaining the HC and GM positions before they were ready regardless of ethic origin.

The problem here is in the NCAA ... the NFL should create some type of partner program to get more minority hires in all the divisions ... a band aid approach is not the answer and is certainly no solution ... if you want to effect change then create programs to help more get a chance - get a start as opposed to a token hire that proves nothing and does nothing to help where the problem begins.

whitey is afraid.....

 

[lancerman]

I mean Marvin Lewis was the head coach of the bengals for how many years without winning a playoff game?

Marvin Lewis didn’t win a playoff game but he historically was the best coach that franchise had and made the playoffs 7 times in what has historically been one of the toughest divisions in the NFL during his time with the Steelers and Ravens both being amongst the best in the AFC

 

[lancerman]

I’m glad the NFL is adopting such a progressive stance.

It’s high time we as a nation start fighting racism by punishing the hiring of one race while rewarding the hiring of another

How’s it a punishment? Literally nothing changes from right now if you don’t hire a minority. Nobody is even forced to hire a minority.

 

[rochrist]

so what? Do you think the percentage of coaches who are African American should be close to the percentage of players that are too? Who cares

I expect the people who get shut out care.

 

[rochrist]

It’s a competitive job. You have winners and losers. That’s a fact of life. The 32nd best man in the world at it will get his ass handed to him.

And clearly the best men are getting all the jobs. If you think that, you're an idiot.

 

[Ring 6]

And clearly the best men are getting all the jobs. If you think that, you're an idiot.

No an idiot would think that someone would intentional not hire the best man.

 

[Ring 6]

I expect the people who get shut out care.

Then establish that any are getting shut out. No one has done that.

 

[iapatsfan]

Cam was injured and placed on IR by the team the last time we saw him. The last time we saw him healthy he had his second best passing year. Meanwhile Rivers got a job immediately having the worst season of his career,

if your benchmark is “I’m going to hold two games over a clearly injured player” that’s kind of ****ty way to make an assessment.

The guy is a 59% passer for his career. He is now 30, meaning the best days of using his legs are behind him. The fact that he remains unemployed in a QB driven league is strong evidence of my assessment.

 

[Ring 6]

How’s it a punishment? Literally nothing changes from right now if you don’t hire a minority. Nobody is even forced to hire a minority.

If you give an incentive to hire one person over another for no legitimate reason you are punishing the person who isn’t part of the group you are incentive the hiring of.

 

[Jangles]

How’s it a punishment? Literally nothing changes from right now if you don’t hire a minority. Nobody is even forced to hire a minority.

admittedly I’m only going off the initial tweet, but how can a teams draft position improve without hurting another teams

 

[rochrist]

Then establish that any are getting shut out. No one has done that.

Only an idiot would think that it isn't going on.

 

[rochrist]

No an idiot would think that someone would intentional not hire the best man.

So explain the continual hiring and re-hiring of retreads, has-beens and never-weres.

 

[Jangles]

So explain the continual hiring and re-hiring of retreads, has-beens and never-weres.

like Hue Jackson and Marvin Lewis?

 

[iapatsfan]

Only an idiot would think that it isn't going on.

So you're admitting you only "think" this going on, but you have no evidence it actually is going on.

Do you often get your panties in a wad over your "thoughts"?

 

[rochrist]

So you're admitting you only "think" this going on, but you have no evidence it actually is going on.

Do you often get your panties in a wad over your "thoughts"?

At least I have thoughts, something you're pretty clearly lacking.

 

[iapatsfan]

At least I have thoughts, something you're pretty clearly lacking.

Strange how they involve outrage at nameless boogiemen?

 

[lancerman]

The guy is a 59% passer for his career. He is now 30, meaning the best days of using his legs are behind him. The fact that he remains unemployed in a QB driven league is strong evidence of my assessment.

The last year he wasn’t injured he had his second best passing season. You are using a season he was clearly injured and only played two games as a sample size to justify your point which is crap.

The debate was whether it’s right that he couldn’t find a job. You are arguing he’s not not good enough and using the outcome of not being signed as justification. You can’t possibly be this intellectually bankrupt

 

[lancerman]

If you give an incentive to hire one person over another for no legitimate reason you are punishing the person who isn’t part of the group you are incentive the hiring of.

That depends on if you believe achieving equality in the midst of an equality gap is no a legitimate reason.

Also it presumes a team would hire a lesser candidate for the incentive. Which I find doubtful because a good coach or GM is more valuable than moving up a few spots in the third round.

Now if both candidates are equal, then the person losing out has no claim to getting screwed because he wasn’t better than the person who got the job to begin with.

That’s also assuming you get into a one to one situation like that. Most teams usually have a clear favorite