oceansizer
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
2020 Weekly Picks Winner
2021 Weekly Picks Winner
2023 Predictions Winner
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2015
- Messages
- 1,734
- Reaction score
- 2,258
Registered Members experience this forum ad and noise-free.
CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Funny you say that, I just have a feeling, when all is said and done, 15 years from now, we will be talking about Herbert as the best QB from the 2020 draft. He just has it all, a cannon arm, good touch on the ball when needed, smart, tough, a fiery leader. I like everything about him. He just seems like he has what it takes to be a VERY good NFL QB. Not sure he will be great, but it really depends on where he winds up, that sometimes has a HUGE impact on the final product.
TE?...Top needs are DL, OL, WR, and LB since both KVN and Collins are not coming back. Top LBs after Isaiah Simmons are Kenneth Murray, Patrick Queen, and Zack Baun.
I don't think that any TE is worthy of #23 either...but TE is still a top need, ahead of OL, WR, DL & Safety and right there with LB...If both Ken Murray & Xavier McKinney are available at 23, and if Bill doesn't trade out (which he will, IMO) then I now would take Murray ahead of McKinney.I don't think any of the TEs in this draft is worth using #23 for. Maybe double-dip on the position later in the draft, or sign a FA TE like Ebron or Eifert if the team can clear cap space somehow.
Murray would be a great Van Noy replacement. 6’2” 240, great speed and passion. Can get after the QB if called upon.I don't think that any TE is worthy of #23 either...but TE is still a top need, ahead of OL, WR, DL & Safety and right there with LB...If both Ken Murray & Xavier McKinney are available at 23, and if Bill doesn't trade out (which he will, IMO) then I now would take Murray ahead of McKinney.
No, I don't think he's thereDo you guys think Herbert will drop to #23? If so, would you draft Herbert with #23?
Do you guys think Herbert will drop to #23? If so, would you draft Herbert with #23?
It seems very unlikely - but not altogether impossible - that Herbert will drop to #23...But if he happens to do so, then Yes I would take him there...Gotta take a gamble on greatness sometimes, especially at that position...No, I don't think he's there
No, I don't really want him
But, it really only matters what BB wants (don't think he's there regardless)
I would deliver the draft card myself, in a surgical mask and surgical gloves of course.Do you guys think Herbert will drop to #23? If so, would you draft Herbert with #23?
If your coaching/staff can't teach a kid to take snaps from under center there's a problem imo. Also all these prospects practice that anyway. This is stuff we heard 10-20 years ago. Not a big deal imo.Had a good senior bowl, solid combine but he scares me. Never took a snap in college under center. Play action is the bread and butter of good NFL offenses. Could he learn? Sure, but that’s not what I’d call an NFL ready QB. Played his entire career from shotgun and to me that is a big red flag unless your Warren Moon.
Murray would be a great Van Noy replacement. 6’2” 240, great speed and passion. Can get after the QB if called upon.
From everything I've seen Murray is best suited at weakside early on. KVN took a minute to become the guy we saw playing on the los. Murray's hand usage, ability to take on blocks, block recognition and overall strength isn't best for the KVN role.With the departure of Van Noy, Collins and Roberts, you’d have to think Kenneth Murray gets a serious look.
If both Zach Baun & Ken Murray are available at 23, who ya got?From everything I've seen Murray is best suited at weakside early on. KVN took a minute to become the guy we saw playing on the los. Murray's hand usage, ability to take on blocks, block recognition and overall strength isn't best for the KVN role.
Keep him clean and let him fly around. Much better knifing, slashing then taking on blocks rn.
For the KVN role? Definitely Baun but I love Murray. I think could great. Esp in today's game with so much motion. Teams trying to use every blade of grass. Him and Queen will be coveted imo.If both Zach Baun & Ken Murray are available at 23, who ya got?