Report: Browns Hire Vikings OC Kevin Stefanski

[Rob0729]

Not true. Stats can tell you all those things. You’re certainly right that it’s harder than it is in baseball. They’re just a lot more work to create because it’s much more labor intensive than in baseball. You need to look at every play and you need to know what you’re looking for. So it’s hard but it can be done. And I think it actually is done.

OTOH, sabermatricians used to make fun of Brian Sabean, Giants GM, because he was old school and “didn’t really use sabermetrics,” which was not quite true. That mockery ended when the Giants won 3 WS in five years. Even Bill James, The Godfather of sabermatricians, would tell you stats are useful but they’re not everything.

No one is collecting these stats and it would be a complete waste of time and much of it would be skewed based on the opinions of the person who reviews the tapes. How do you know if a receiver ran a bad route unless it is your player? How do you know if someone missed a blocking assignment or he just happened to be the closest guy to the play? A lot of that stuff is not

You want to see how much stats are not that great when evaluating players in the NFL? Look at the top five QBs in terms of passing yards this year:

Jameis Winston
Dak Prescott
Jared Goff
Phillip Rivers
Matt Ryan

Winston was also second in passing TDs this season. And Prescott was fourth. Sure you can point to Winston's INTs to weaken my argument, but Prescott only had 11 INTs.

Chris Godwin was third in receiving yards and fourth in receiving TDs. Do you think Godwin is a top five receiver or that it is because Winston passed so goshdarn much this season.

When Chandler Jones was here, he got gaudy sack and pressure numbers. But anyone who watched him play here would tell you a lot of those numbers came when the Pats had the game in hand and teams were pass happy trying to catch up and many times during the game when the Pats needed Jones he was invisible. Not singling out Jones for being overrated, but how does stats show that. It may be able to translate if you break the down stats of plays by how much the Pats are winning, losing by or if they are tied; but there is no guarantee that will show up in those stats. It certainly wouldn't show up in the stats if the Pats needed Jones to step up in a key spot and he didn't.

Again, there are way too many variables in football to use sabermetrics. So far, the Brown are proving me right. For all the hype about their team, they haven't even had a .500 season using it. All the talk about the Browns winning their division and finally going to the playoffs this year, they went 6-1o even though people said they had all this talent. The only reason they didn't end up in fourth place this year in their division is because the Bengals are the worst team in football this year. The Browns had the fourth worst record in the AFC this year. And two of the teams with worst records were being accused of tanking the season.

 

[kennyb]

Does that mean they're stuck with mcdaniels and his impenetrable offense of shotgun draws and double fake pirouetting screen passes?

No wonder Brady wants out.

 

[fnordcircle]

Does that mean they're stuck with mcdaniels and his impenetrable offense of shotgun draws and double fake pirouetting screen passes?

No wonder Brady wants out.

It's really crazy how they've managed to win all these titles despite Belichick being the worst GM in the game and McDaniels being the worst OC in the history of football. Just sheer dumb luck, I guess.

 

[Deus Irae]

Does that mean they're stuck with mcdaniels and his impenetrable offense of shotgun draws and double fake pirouetting screen passes?

No wonder Brady wants out.

Yeah, it's been a disaster with McDaniels. I mean, who the hell wants to get stuck going to 4 Super Bowls in 5 years, for crying out loud?





You really, really, really suck as a troll.

 

[kennyb]

Yeah, it's been a disaster with McDaniels. I mean, who the hell wants to get stuck going to 4 Super Bowls in 5 years, for crying out loud?





You really, really, really suck as a troll.

They had a guy named Brady who made it all work. And some nifty guys who could get open and also understand the playbook.

That's all gone. Now it's slugs and snails and guys who are befuddled. Tortoise sanu and slug harry. Great trade there bill! Great drafting!

Been a fan since 77 or so. The 2-14year right before ken simms. But the silver lining to watching them struggle will be knowing it shuts up fatheads like you.

 

[Deus Irae]

They had a guy named Brady who made it all work. And some nifty guys who could get open and also understand the playbook.

That's all gone. Now it's slugs and snails and guys who are befuddled. Tortoise sanu and slug harry. Great trade there bill! Great drafting!

Been a fan since 77 or so. The 2-14year right before ken simms. But the silver lining to watching them struggle will be knowing it shuts up fatheads like you.

You're a troll. Why deny it? Just get better at it. I mean, given the context of the last 6 years or so, that post of yours about McDaniels was so laden with ridiculousness that anyone with any kind of honor would have committed sepukku before hitting the sent button, but you chose to go full troll and post it.



And Brady's not gone until he's gone.

 

[captain stone]

Caserio is the remaining outstanding question.

Seems Ossie and Zig are staying - for now.

Local Birmingham UK music mag ad:

"Ozzie Zig Needs Gig."

That's how Ozzie Osborne became lead singer for Black Sabbath...true story.

 

[TB_Helmet]

Local Birmingham UK music mag ad:

"Ozzie Zig Needs Gig."

That's how Ozzie Osborne became lead singer for Black Sabbath...true story.

I can always tell when @captain stone catches up on his PatsFans reading because I get 10 notifications from 6 different threads.

 

[captain stone]

I can always tell when @captain stone catches up on his PatsFans reading because I get 10 notifications from 6 different threads.

I was in Aruba from Saturday the 4th until Friday the 10th, including watching the Pats WC game that night...got sick between WC games on Sunday, didn't hold down anything until Tuesday evening...also saw more New Englanders there than at any time since we drove to DC for the Redskins game...wife loves the place...