Peter King -One on One with Brady

[FCB02062]

It's time to move on from Brady. The team doesn't have the money and cap space to put the WEAPONZ around Brady that he so clearly needs. He can no longer score 3 or 4 touchdowns a game unless he has a good tight end, a league best offensive line, a power running game, and multiple inside the #s receiving threats. Brady accomplished all of that (3-4 tds/game) with similar or lesser WEAPONZ in 2013. Brady is no longer the quarterback who makes others around him better. Gone are the days when Brady takes a little known Wes Welker and turns him into a household name and perennial pro bowler. Gone are the days when Brady takes an undrafted FA NYJ castaway from Chadron State and makes him one of the best third down backs in the league. Gone are the days when Tom Brady takes a Brandon LaFell and the receiver puts up career-best stats. Gone are the days when Brady can take a Tim Wright and Wright posts a career high in touchdowns.

We reached the season in which Tom Brady can take a guy like Mohamed Sanu, who had 33 catches in 7 games and caught 78.6% of his targets and averaged 9.48 yards/catch in Atlanta and turn that into 25 catches in 9 games and caught 56.3% of his targets and averaged 6.94 yards/catch (a career low).

It is clear he is sick of Belichick and the way the coach operates the team. Good luck Tom, you are the greatest of all time, but your time here has run its course. Brady's pouting and grousing after victories was off putting and I'm sure his teammates did not appreciate it. Brady cost the team the game with his atrocious interception (if he doesn't throw that pick Miami isn't in the position to win w game ending drive) and does Brady talk about that boneheaded throw after the game? "It was just a bad throw." What? That's all you can say? How bout talking about how as the leader of the team you can't just GIVE THE BALL AWAY to the other team, especially when you've been below league average in just about every category as a quarterback?

 

[SVN]

The other thing no one is thinking about is that the OC is leaving. The new OC may want a different type of QB.
The mobile QB is envogue these days. Maybe BB wants to change the offense? I still think we should bring Brady back.
But BB may have a different opinion.

They might just get O,Shea back to keep the continuity.

 

[203Pat]

Some people seem to be under the impression that if we put Brady out of the curb this train will just keep rolling along. I think without Brady this year this was maybe a 6-7 win team.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Pats have invested in offense in the draft too in the last few yrs. wynn, harry, michel are all first round picks . We couldve used a DT last saturday . Not saying the picks are the greatest and they hit on all of them but they have focused on offense. It hasnt panned out as well - if you call winning a SB and going 12-4 as not panning out.

Bring a scout when it comes to wrs. Somebody new.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Some people seem to be under the impression that if we put Brady out of the curb this train will just keep rolling along. I think without Brady this year this was maybe a 6-7 win team.

I can just imagine the young rookie QB with the same supporting cast. Yikes.

 

[festy1986]

Well in the end he was right. Yes he could have delivered a couple of balls but there was also drops etc. Not being in the same page but these guys hardly got any separation. I am sure bill expected more from sanu in 9 games. 26 rec for 207 1 td is putrid from sanu.

You just watched DJ Metcalf kill it yesterday and were sti gonna act like choosing harry over deebo and dj wasnt asinade?

Maybe long term bill nailed this pick but for this season and this season superbowl Hope's bill really ****ed up.


For christ sake one of our tight ends was someone he moved on from more than a decade ago. It was bad and I dont blame Brady for wondering wtf he had to work with this.

 

[Sciz]

Some people seem to be under the impression that if we put Brady out of the curb this train will just keep rolling along. I think without Brady this year this was maybe a 6-7 win team.

You could take away 13 points per game (half their average per game), and they still would have won 8 games.

 

[Biffins]

Some of you have to realize Bill has to put a team together and not just load up on top players for Brady's sake.

And some of us realize that and think Bill did a really bad job of putting a good balanced team together this year with some obvious glaring holes that were not a result of injuries but were identified a year ago.

 

[SVN]

Bring a scout when it comes to wrs. Somebody new.

I dont know . I think playing with this QB and System is the challenging part not actually scouting . Malcom Mitchell actually worked well but got hurt .

 

[Biffins]

He’s also not building a champion if he has to pay Brady 30 million.

I guess you feel all teams with QBs at $30m or more are not championship calibre? Is that correct?

We also don't know if that's what Brady is asking.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

It's time to move on from Brady. The team doesn't have the money and cap space to put the WEAPONZ around Brady that he so clearly needs. He can no longer score 3 or 4 touchdowns a game unless he has a good tight end, a league best offensive line, a power running game, and multiple inside the #s receiving threats. Brady accomplished all of that (3-4 tds/game) with similar or lesser WEAPONZ in 2013. Brady is no longer the quarterback who makes others around him better. Gone are the days when Brady takes a little known Wes Welker and turns him into a household name and perennial pro bowler. Gone are the days when Brady takes an undrafted FA NYJ castaway from Chadron State and makes him one of the best third down backs in the league. Gone are the days when Tom Brady takes a Brandon LaFell and the receiver puts up career-best stats. Gone are the days when Brady can take a Tim Wright and Wright posts a career high in touchdowns.

We reached the season in which Tom Brady can take a guy like Mohamed Sanu, who had 33 catches in 7 games and caught 78.6% of his targets and averaged 9.48 yards/catch in Atlanta and turn that into 25 catches in 9 games and caught 56.3% of his targets and averaged 6.94 yards/catch (a career low).

It is clear he is sick of Belichick and the way the coach operates the team. Good luck Tom, you are the greatest of all time, but your time here has run its course. Brady's pouting and grousing after victories was off putting and I'm sure his teammates did not appreciate it. Brady cost the team the game with his atrocious interception (if he doesn't throw that pick Miami isn't in the position to win w game ending drive) and does Brady talk about that boneheaded throw after the game? "It was just a bad throw." What? That's all you can say? How bout talking about how as the leader of the team you can't just GIVE THE BALL AWAY to the other team, especially when you've been below league average in just about every category as a quarterback?

You’re one of the biggest clowns on this board. That 2013 team could run the football. Brady was younger as well. They had amendola. Any team from the past is better than this group offensively.

 

[SVN]

You just watched DJ Metcalf kill it yesterday and were sti gonna act like choosing harry over deebo and dj wasnt asinade?

Maybe long term bill nailed this pick but for this season and this season superbowl Hope's bill really ****ed up.


For christ sake one of our tight ends was someone he moved on from more than a decade ago. It was bad and I dont blame Brady for wondering wtf he had to work with this.

There is no guarantee metcalf wouldve not struggled here in this system . Like everything else, it was good timing and perfect situation for him and his team. If it was harry catching TDs from wilson we would say the same thing the other way.

 

[203Pat]

You could take away 13 points per game (half their average per game), and they still would have won 8 games.

Yeah if everything is black and white. In reality a rookie QB is going to throw a pick or fumble the ball or put the defense in bad spots where they end up holding the other team to a 3 and out but they still kick a field goal.

 

[Biffins]

He’s also not building a champion if he has to pay Brady 30 million.

Brady can get $30m in a heartbeat from 8 different teams. Probably $35m if he didn't care where he went.

If he comes to us for less than $30m it's a big discount.

 

[SVN]

You’re one of the biggest clowns on this board. That 2013 team could run the football. Brady was younger as well. They had amendola. Any team from the past is better than this group offensively.

people forget the clutch catches amendola and hogan and even gronk made in the last few yrs. We didnt make simple ones this yr. Sometimes the difference is simple .

 

[rochrist]

Brady is well known for being OCD about his receivers' route running. What team is he going to plug himself into that will give him a turnkey receiving corps that meets that demand? None. They're all playing some form of sandlot football with routes that break down quickly as the QB, a runner by nature or by necessity, starts improvising and the receivers start running about semi-randomly, waving for the QB's attention. Brady won't be able to run his precision game with a bunch of Ochocincos no matter how physically talented they may be.

Personally, I think Tom ought to think long and hard about going somewhere else. There is no upside. If he wins, so what, he's Tom Brady. If his decline continues, its the same sad story of a player who stuck around too long.

 

[rochrist]

Brady can get $30m in a heartbeat from 8 different teams. Probably $35m if he didn't care where he went.

If he comes to us for less than $30m it's a big discount.

Any GM who gave a 43 year old QB 35 million should be fired on the spot.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

There is no guarantee metcalf wouldve not struggled here in this system . Like everything else, it was good timing and perfect situation for him and his team. If it was harry catching TDs from wilson we would say the same thing the other way.

Metcalf is a better athlete than harry. Played in a tougher conference. He was on way to a great year before the injuries. People made a big deal because of his 3 cone time and thinking he was just a one trick pony. I had him ahead of harry but bill had harry ahead of him it seems. Teams get scared at times because of the chad Jackson scenario but Jackson was a florida receiver. I always worry about receivers from florida.

 

[Tony2046]

You could take away 13 points per game (half their average per game), and they still would have won 8 games.

True but that doesn't take additional turnovers or three n outs the defense would have or may have dealt with.

 

[203Pat]

Brady already counting $13.5 mill against the cap next year is going to hurt. Unless there is someway they get creative I don’t see how they don’t have any non-rookie contract QB and still re-sign some of our other guys. This is where some of the poor drafting and personnel moves are really hurting us. This team obviously needs to get younger and more talented and we don’t have the money to do so as far as free agency. This is where we should have some talented young linebackers ready to step into starting roles when we let KVN and Collins walk. This is where we should have some defensive backs to rotate in and take over for McCourty and potentially Chung. We don’t have those young cheap guys that can fill in so we can pay Brady and then trade for a guy like Odell or sign an AJ Green or Hunter Henry. We suddenly have a whole bunch of holes to fill and if Brady isn’t back I would just opt for a full rebuild.