All time QB rankings by Chris Simms

[Give Kraft A Hand]

I'm actually stunned Simms had Brady in the top 5 let alone top 3. He's spent the last half-decade hating on him. I figured he'd have Marino Favre and Manning over Brady. I mean I'm also shocked that he didn't put his dad on the list but hey...

 

[maust]

And people think IM a troll...

No, you should give us more credit than that. People know it.

 

[203Pat]

This is what's sports media is in 2019. Get used to it.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Tom Brady thanks Sporting News for naming him NFL Athlete of the Decade

 

[Clonamery]

Tom Brady thanks Sporting News for naming him NFL Athlete of the Decade

What’s this got to do what’s on the film? Simms has seen the film. He tells us.

 

[Sfpat]

Depending on what metrics he was using for his grading, you could make the argument he is (I.e. Arod has talents as a QB - mobility, down field accuracy, that supersede TB12s “talents”) which don’t translate necessarily on the W/L table.

Like is said in many of the NFLN shows when they talk about TB12 and the draft, what makes him the best ever isn’t something you can quantitatively measure and touch. You can’t grade out his will to win nor his competitive fire nor his mind for the game from within the system he plays.

Having said all of that, and knowing his schtick, I won’t give him the benefit of the doubt and conclude that Chris Simms is continuing to play the role of “Football Pundit who could only be a pundit in modern times because we live in the Age of Troll”

Bert Jones was a far better QB than Arod, if only the above metrics are considered

 

[Drewski]

Bert Jones was a far better QB than Arod, if only the above metrics are considered

The point I was making, poorly perhaps (and further, I am certainly not defending Simms' list and have my own augmentations to it) is as follows.

There are two general flavors (IMHO, maybe even more) of what the "Who is the best QBs Ever" type conversation gets at for some people.

Someone could take the physical side of the equation as the more prominent side of it; namely things like big arm, accuracy, mobility etc in a "what attributes build the best QB". From that perspective, I don't think many would put TB very high.

The other side of the coin, which is where I think most people who invest a lot of time in this sport would argue from, is one must weigh things like winning/success, raising the performance of those around you, doing more with less and other less quantitative attributes, where TB shines above all others.

If I were building the "perfect QB" in a lab, there are probably no physical attributes of TB's that I would take to put into the recipe. I would take someone else's legs (Russell Wilson or LJax), someone else's arm (Pat Mahomes) , someone else's physical stature (Cam Newton) . Give me his mind, heart, fire and his "4 o'clock in the morning courage" however.

My point is probably laid out better using two other QBs on his list. Simms' ranks Terry Bradshaw above Roger Staubach; I'd place Roger over Terry, Simms presumably does so because of more titles.

Terry B to me is a modern day Eli Manning with a bit more Kobe Bryant killer instinct in him. Serviceable QB who can make some splash plays but how much of his success was because the Defense he had? Roger was Arod physically with balls to finish/comeback and leadership to boot.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Hope Rodgers doesn’t make NFL’s All Decade team.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I've always been of the opinion that Simms tried to make a critique or give him advice and Brady said something like"Ya the guy that's won 3 SBs and 2 MVPs is gonna take advice from the guy that won 7 games in his career"

As a relevant aside: Bill O'Brien, before joining the Patriots, spent two years as the OC at Duke. In that span, Duke went 1–21, with one of the most anemic offenses in college football. [And yet, BB et al., decided much as they did with Kyle Van Noy, that's our guy.]

 

[DaBronxPats14]

Click Bait Much sims*

 

[Sfpat]

The point I was making, poorly perhaps (and further, I am certainly not defending Simms' list and have my own augmentations to it) is as follows.

There are two general flavors (IMHO, maybe even more) of what the "Who is the best QBs Ever" type conversation gets at for some people.

Someone could take the physical side of the equation as the more prominent side of it; namely things like big arm, accuracy, mobility etc in a "what attributes build the best QB". From that perspective, I don't think many would put TB very high.

The other side of the coin, which is where I think most people who invest a lot of time in this sport would argue from, is one must weigh things like winning/success, raising the performance of those around you, doing more with less and other less quantitative attributes, where TB shines above all others.

If I were building the "perfect QB" in a lab, there are probably no physical attributes of TB's that I would take to put into the recipe. I would take someone else's legs (Russell Wilson or LJax), someone else's arm (Pat Mahomes) , someone else's physical stature (Cam Newton) . Give me his mind, heart, fire and his "4 o'clock in the morning courage" however.

My point is probably laid out better using two other QBs on his list. Simms' ranks Terry Bradshaw above Roger Staubach; I'd place Roger over Terry, Simms presumably does so because of more titles.

Terry B to me is a modern day Eli Manning with a bit more Kobe Bryant killer instinct in him. Serviceable QB who can make some splash plays but how much of his success was because the Defense he had? Roger was Arod physically with balls to finish/comeback and leadership to boot.

I agree with you. That said, Bert Jones' physical attributes (big arm, accuracy, et al) were far superior to Arod's. His intangibles were better too. Were it not for piss poor teams he played on and early knee injuries, Jones probably would have gone down as one of the best of all time.

 

[sb1]

Brady vs Rodgers in LIV?

Could happen.

 

[n6249c]

10. Brees
9. Staubach
8. Bradshaw
7. Montana
6. Marino
5. Favre
4. Manning
3. Brady
2. Elway
1. Rodgers

looks good to me

Manning, Bradshaw and Favre seem too low

also wondering where Eli is

You mean #4 isn’t the sum of all the accomplishments of Archie + Peyton + Eli taken as though accomplished by a single QB?

If not then why such a high rating?

 

[n6249c]

Even Aaron Rodgers doesn't think he is the best of the best ...

Oh wait ... Its Aaron Rodgers so I'm sure he does...

His family told him so

Is he back talking to them?

Or is he backtalking to them?

 

[n6249c]

Good list. My only disagreement is you have Starr ranked too high (Unitas, Staubach ahead for sure). And I'd move Elway/Marino ahead of Young.

Disagree. Starr << Staubach or Unitas.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I agree with you. That said, Bert Jones' physical attributes (big arm, accuracy, et al) were far superior to Arod's. His intangibles were better too. Were it not for piss poor teams he played on and early knee injuries, Jones probably would have gone down as one of the best of all time.

BB agrees.

If Bill Belichick Could Choose Any Quarterback To Lead His Team, He’d Pick …

 

[n6249c]

...

To me Starr was more like Bradshaw or Aikman only better.

I had to disagree, because what you said is like saying Brady was more like Matt Cassel only better.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Brady vs Rodgers in LIV?

Could happen.

I've always wanted this, still do but could you imagine NEP V SF?

Two of the most storied franchises.

Bill vs Kyle

Brady vs Jimmy.

2 of the best defenses in an offensive era.

I can't remember a bigger storyline. Maybe I'm missing something but the GOAT QB/HC against Jimmy has everything anyone could want.

 

[Family]

I had to disagree, because what you said is like saying Brady was more like Matt Cassel only better.

This makes no sense.

Bradshaw won 4 super bowls and Aikman three. Both are Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

And I said this in the context that Starr/Unitas was not similar to Brady/Manning because of free agency.

How is that similar to comparing Brady to Matt Cassel?

It's one of the most absurd posts ever.

 

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

11. C Simms