Kaepernick ..... Tryout Edition

[SHOWTIME15]

Again, how do you know this? Kaepernick hasn't played in three years. You have no idea if he can even jog quickly.

Um, that's what Belichick and his staff are for...

 

[LJRomanoff]

Um, that's what Belichick and his staff are for...

I asked how YOU know, since you're the one saying he's better than Kessler.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I asked how YOU know, since you're the one saying he's better than Kessler.

You are arguing in circles. It's same reason I gave you yesterday - if BB looks at him and decides to pick him up, by definition he's an upgrade to Kessler. A good workout, and perhaps a private evaluation of him by the Pats, plus the ability he has shown in the past means it's a safe bet he's better than Kessler, who is downright awful.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

If the Patriots want a fast guy to take snaps in practice there’s plenty on the team already.

 

[Ring 6]

You are arguing in circles. It's same reason I gave you yesterday - if BB looks at him and decides to pick him up, by definition he's an upgrade to Kessler. A good workout, and perhaps a private evaluation of him by the Pats, plus the ability he has shown in the past means it's a safe bet he's better than Kessler, who is downright awful.

Kaepernick stinks. He stunk when he played and he had not seen a football field in years.

 

[Ring 6]

Yes it’s very strange. The guy has been available for years. Bringing in a QB mid season is a last option. He was available all year to go through a training camp and learn the playbook. And nobody wanted him with those advantages.
Now I guess I’m supposed to believe with no training camp, tons of teams are interested? And better yet, with a mid season dog and pony show arranged by Jay-Z coaches are salivating over him. As if that doesn’t sound like a diva move anyway.

There’s a lot of NFL prospects a lot better than Kaepernick and none have ever tried to arrange a mid season side show “Workout” because they know the entire NFL would laugh at the idea and never show up.

But we are supposed to believe this guy is just such an unbelievable prospect that everyone is taking it seriously? Even though there’s been no interest the last 30 months.

It’s very odd.
No one wants him. Why he would get a private workout when no other player does is strange, and the fact that zero teams have ea yes him to come in for a work out but flock to one that is staged sounds like a poorly veiled PR stunt.
I’m guessing it was part of the settlement and the league was required to make a minimum number of teams send a rep to waste their time.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Kaepernick stinks. He stunk when he played and he had not seen a football field in years.

So does Kessler. We're talking about Kap as a 3rd string/scout QB

 

[Ring 6]

So does Kessler. We're talking about Kap as a 3rd string/scout QB

Kessler is still developing and fits the system.
He is 26 and has only thrown 350 passes mostly under duress in pathetic offenses.
If it’s only 3rd strong/scout why would the patriots bring in a walking distraction over a guy who just does his job?

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

A good workout, and perhaps a private evaluation of him by the Pats, plus the ability he has shown in the past

His past isn’t very promising. He rode the coattails of a good defense 7 years ago for his only good season. Since that season the Patriots have been to four super bowls and won three.

The Patriots could have had Kaepernick in anytime the last 2 1/2 years, and they didn’t. That should tell you how manufactured all this interest is.

it's a safe bet he's better than Kessler, who is downright awful.

Kessler is awful and yet his one year in 2016 as a starter he had a better passer rating than Kaepernick. At least Kessler can use the excuse he was a rookie in 2016.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I’m guessing it was part of the settlement and the league was required to make a minimum number of teams send a rep to waste their time.

That's very astute of you. You could be right.

why would the patriots bring in a waking distraction over a guy who just does his job?

That's up to Bill. If he sees it as a necessary upgrade, I'm fine with it. Why send representatives to see his workout when the video is being made available to all 32 teams? That's a waste too.

 

[Deus Irae]

Let the games begin!​

Colin Kaepernick won’t work out at the Falcons’ facility today after all.

Instead, Kaepernick has moved his workout to another location, and his representatives released a statement accusing the NFL of not acting in a forthright manner in organizing the workout....

Kaepernick moves workout, says NFL demanded he sign liability waiver

 

[Deus Irae]

Why send representatives to see his workout when the video is being made available to all 32 teams?

Because the league tells you to, and your owner is facing possible league discipline thanks to his desire to get his knob polished down in Florida.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

From a purely football perspective, it's not a bad backup option if Brady gets hurt. Not comfortable at all with Stidham right now. But the backlash over signing Kap would be too much...

So you got a bunch of disagrees, and I also do...We shouldn't have anything against him.

The media freaks out. Right. They always freak out about everything.

He could help us if Tom gets hurt.

Backlash? How could it be any worse than two fake scandals and stolen first rounders?


Too many people expect Kaep to be like George Foreman or Byron Allen who say, "America is great!!!"

For them, yes. The rest of the millions who look like them, no. And nobody listens to them.

 

[Ring 6]

That's very astute of you. You could be right.



That's up to Bill. If he sees it as a necessary upgrade, I'm fine with it. Why send representatives to see his workout when the video is being made available to all 32 teams? That's a waste too.

Probably because the league mandated it

Kaepernick wouldn’t be here for football he would be here for his politics. Why would the team subject itself to that?

 

[Ring 6]

So you got a bunch of disagrees, and I also do...We shouldn't have anything against him.

The media freaks out. Right. They always freak out about everything.

He could help us if Tom gets hurt.

Backlash? How could it be any worse than two fake scandals and stolen first rounders?


Too many people expect Kaep to be like George Foreman or Byron Allen who say, "America is great!!!"

For them, yes. The rest of the millions who look like them, no. And nobody listens to them.

He isn’t going to be the backup because he sucks not because of his politics.
He isnt going to signed as a gift so he can sit in the bench because of his politics.
If he didn’t suck and would be useful his politics wouldn’t matter.
Since all he would contribute is the distraction caused by his politics, because, he sucks, then his politics matter.

 

[Ring 6]

Let the games begin!​

Kaepernick moves workout, says NFL demanded he sign liability waiver

Holy cow. No one wants him, the league caters to his whining by creating an unprecedented workout and he complains about the way they did it.
This is simply a guy going through life finding things he can complain about to draw attention to himself.
He will use this phony audition as a way to stay relevant for months by complaining he was discriminated against.
I think the whole thing is only happening because people stopped talking about him, so now he was to make it last as long as he can before he is forgotten yet again.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Probably because the league mandated it

Kaepernick wouldn’t be here for football he would be here for his politics. Why would the team subject itself to that?

Maybe, but not all the teams are present.

 

[Ring 6]

Maybe, but not all the teams are present.

Why would they matter? I’m sure they didn’t agree that every team would be there in the settlement.
I would imagine the patriots ticket was sponsored by orchids of Asia.

 

[mgteich]

Why is responding to lawsuits a sham? Should teams and the league have simply avoided the law suit, and done nothing?

But the league-wide tryout was always possible. All it would have taken is the same thing it's taking this time, which is the league being behind the arm twisting. That is, in fact, one of the reasons some people are calling this a sham.

 

[Vindicate]

Holy cow. No one wants him, the league caters to his whining by creating an unprecedented workout and he complains about the way they did it.
This is simply a guy going through life finding things he can complain about to draw attention to himself.
He will use this phony audition as a way to stay relevant for months by complaining he was discriminated against.
I think the whole thing is only happening because people stopped talking about him, so now he was to make it last as long as he can before he is forgotten yet again.

I thought I read reports that even Kaep was surprised. Regardless, I doubt the NFL is catering to him (they're doing this over halfway thru the season...) - and just doing a terribly planned, last-second PR stunt. I don't blame him for moving it, do something like that on your own terms.

I'm honestly just wondering why a guy wants to work for a league that ****ed him sideways over kneeling. Even if you hate Kaep, you gotta at least see the league handled this entire mess, from start to end, terribly - and this is a continuation of that trend.