The Patriots have receiver problems

[captain stone]

...I have virtually no hope that NE will get their running attack going this season.

Pieces that made last year’s running attack special that do not exist this year:
No 6th lineman Gronk
No battering ram Develin
No man mountain
No Andrews
Worse, the right side of the line is consistently losing head to head battles.

It’s a mess
I’m just hoping for stabilization.

Yep...been saying that since before Week 1...Worst TEs in the Entire league, and the Worst TEs in NE in 20 years...No legitimate, professional FB in the building when there are a dozen (or 2) on the street...Sony not even the best draft-eligible RB on his own damn college team...No WRs in the building from the Entire length between the 2010-2018 drafts...No OLman on the 53 from Any of the 2019, 2018 & 2017 drafts...Broken-down RT...over-rated RG...JAG Centre...Worst LT in the league...and a LG in his final season here...

The Pats have WR problems all right...they also have OL problems, Workhorse RB problems,
and TE problems.

 

[SBLIII]

We need to put to rest the "Gordon needs more time to get into football shape" excuse. How much time did AB miss with his frostbitten feet or grievances or after his blow up with Mayock? AB played like his hair was on fire when he got on the field in week two.

Gordon has had four full regular season games to get into shape so it's a lame excuse.
His heart isn't "all in" IMO...or at least hasn't been yet.

Bingo.

 

[SBLIII]

Yep...been saying that since before Week 1...Worst TEs in the Entire league, and the Worst TEs in NE in 20 years...No legitimate, professional FB in the building when there are a dozen (or 2) on the street...Sony not even the best draft-eligible RB on his own damn college team...No WRs in the building from the Entire length between the 2010-2018 drafts...No OLman on the 53 from Any of the 2019, 2018 & 2017 drafts...Broken-down RT...over-rated RG...JAG Centre...Worst LT in the league...and a LG in his final season here...

The Pats have WR problems all right...they also have OL problems, Workhorse RB problems,
and TE problems.

it might not be this year but all those misses will be our undoing in 2020.

 

[State]

I looked at the 2017 draft where we lost a lot of early picks because of a bevy of FAs. Then when we did eventually pick beginning in the third round we made it count.

Chris Godwin WR and Kareem Hunt RB.

No, those were the guys picked immediately after us. Ouch.

 

[captain stone]

I looked at the 2017 draft where we lost a lot of early picks because of a bevy of FAs. Then when we did eventually pick beginning in the third round we made it count.

Chris Godwin WR and Kareem Hunt RB.

No, those were the guys picked immediately after us. Ouch.

For me, the 2017 draft will be defined by two things:

The failed Lost Little Cookie experiment, which cost us not only a 2017 3rd-round pick & a 2018 4th-rounder, but also the opportunity to draft the LT of the Future, Ryan Ramczyk;

And the trade for TE Dwayne Allen from Indianapolis with the draft pick that could've instead been used for TE George Kittle.

 

[TommyD4207]

For me, the 2017 draft will be defined by two things:

The failed Lost Little Cookie experiment, which cost us not only a 2017 3rd-round pick & a 2018 4th-rounder, but also the opportunity to draft the LT of the Future, Ryan Ramczyk;

And the trade for TE Dwayne Allen from Indianapolis with the draft pick that could've instead been used for TE George Kittle.

That's some impressive hindsight.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

For me, the 2017 draft will be defined by two things:

The failed Lost Little Cookie experiment, which cost us not only a 2017 3rd-round pick & a 2018 4th-rounder, but also the opportunity to draft the LT of the Future, Ryan Ramczyk;

And the trade for TE Dwayne Allen from Indianapolis with the draft pick that could've instead been used for TE George Kittle.

I was hoping they drafted Dawson Knox. Reminded me of kittle with the potential.

 

[Betterthanmost]

Kelvin McKnight to the rescue?

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I was hoping they drafted Dawson Knox. Reminded me of kittle with the potential.

I see a double dip at TE potentially next April.

 

[SBLIII]

I see a double dip at TE potentially next April.

we also need douple dips at DT, S and possibly OL ugh.

 

[shmessy]

He went off on another thread about people wanting WRs. So it really has nothing to do with you, unless you are still mad at me for not worshipping Kraft like you do..

Why are you importing arguments from other threads??????

But I'll answer your post above: Greatest Owner in American Sports History.

And Ken still has more football knowledge in his thumb cuticle than you've ever learned.

It is what is is.

 

[PatsFan2]

we also need douple dips at DT, S and possibly OL ugh.

Seems like we need a lot the Ghosts of those bad Drafts are coming back to haunt us.

 

[SBLIII]

Seems like we need a lot the Ghosts of those bad Drafts are coming back to haunt us.

they really are. Not good.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

we also need douple dips at DT, S and possibly OL ugh.

We’re projected at 12 picks next year including the 2 3rd round comp picks for flowers and brown. Add to it free agency no reason to worry yet.

 

[Clonamery]

we also need douple dips at DT, S and possibly OL ugh.

Same things were said before last draft.

 

[Deus Irae]

Every year like clockwork...if we only had this $100M receiver...let's trade for that $130M receiver... (you'd think the Patriots had never had a top 5 offense in the league)

Ken hit the nail on the head - the OL coming together and improving will do more for this offense than ANY skill position player. Improve by .25 - .5 yards per carry in the run game and watch the WRs we have suddenly explode in productivity.

But nope, we have to implode the entire salary cap, destroy the defense by creating a situation where multiple players would have to restructure, just to get another WR that in the last game wouldn't have made an ounce of difference in the QB's ability to actually get him the ball. Genius I tell you...pure genius.

• Every year like clockwork, we get a bunch of homers who attack any discussion about Patriots issues that even implies the potential for the possibility of a sliver of a theoretical problem.
• Every year, BB makes adjustments in line with the discussions of Patriots issues involving possible problems. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't, but they get made.
  
• Every year, the homers ignore the history and insist that the complaints are out of line, somehow, because the greatest QB of all time, combined with one of the best coaches of all time, find a way to overcome the weaknesses well enough to get to the playoffs.

In other words, every year, homers post stupid crap, while complaining that non homers are posting stupid crap. Maybe an acknowledgement of the issues would be the smarter move for those homers, given that BB generally acknowledges them to be issues by the moves he makes.

 

[203Pat]

We need to put to rest the "Gordon needs more time to get into football shape" excuse. How much time did AB miss with his frostbitten feet or grievances or after his blow up with Mayock? AB played like his hair was on fire when he got on the field in week two.

Gordon has had four full regular season games to get into shape so it's a lame excuse.
His heart isn't "all in" IMO...or at least hasn't been yet.

I’m at the point where this is what Gordon is now. He’s a good 50-50 ball guy and a big physical possession receiver. He’s not the game breaker he was early in his career no matter how much time he’s given to get into “football shape”.

 

[State]

I feel like the little kid at the end of The Incredibles when watching Gordon. I’m waiting for something amazing. He’s not the guy he once was. Still a talent, though. Only in certain positions.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Why are you importing arguments from other threads??????

But I'll answer your post above: Greatest Owner in American Sports History.

And Ken still has more football knowledge in his thumb cuticle than you've ever learned.

It is what is is.

First of all, Ken was mentioned in the post that I was responding to. That's why I brought him up. You apparently can't read. It is what it is.

And who cares what anyone's football knowledge is on this board? Is there some sort of bragging right around here that goes with that? If anyone here really was brilliant about football, they'd be in the NFL scouting or coaching...not being an armchair QBs like ALL of us are on this forum. That fact that some people around here are 60-70 years old and post regularly is quite sad actually, and maybe you fall in this category.

As far as your hero Robert Kraft is concerned, he is not the greatest owner in sportd history. If he was, he'd already be in the HOF with a current owner like Jerry Jones. He does not compare to the Wellington Mara or George Halas, as a few examples. He kept the team from moving to CT, which I give him credit for, but it was the fortune of Parcells introducing him to Belichick that turned this franchise into a winner. Belichick is the mastermind, Brady the on field general, and Kraft the check signer.

 

[mgteich]

and every year, we win the division, go to the AFC title game and/or Super Bowl

• Every year like clockwork, we get a bunch of homers who attack any discussion about Patriots issues that even implies the potential for the possibility of a sliver of a theoretical problem.
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