Andrew Luck Retires from NFL

[italian pat patriot]

Reflecting better probably the Real question is the timing...this "last minute " decision with the season ready to go put really in jeopardy everything...

Pity As the League lost a great playier too

 

[Dr Pain]

I hate the Indy fans. They all remind me of Helen Lovejoy from the Simpsons. They are small minded provincial idiots. Manning played his goober act and Dungy played saint Tony which they ate up. Luck who is a good guy and was too smart and worldly for Indy fans (grew up in DC, London and Frankfurt).

 

[Deus Irae]

Ok, even WORSE than I suspected. They said it in 2013 and quoted themselves this morning.

They are admitting they are nothing but carnival barkers. We all knew it, but now they are saying ‘This is how we roll, this is who we are’. Why would anyone listen to them?

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Felger has admitted, on more than one occasion, that he's just a troll. The sad thing is that he keeps getting ratings because his trolling plays to the suckers in the N.E. sports fan base.

 

[Taco]

Someone leaked it or confirmed it to Schefter - Luck did not announce his retirement during the game.
And no, Brady would not get booed

Reading a leaked tweet that your star player is retiring during a game is going to piss people off. The Colts and Luck should have handled it better and got in front of any chance of a leak. And for Brady let’s hope his retirement is done correctly and in another couple years.

 

[mosslost]

Is that true or did Brady just play through it. (Discount 08 for Brady and 17 for luck)
Lucks interview didn’t say he couldn’t play, it basically said that he hates that football
is painful and requires rehab.

Good point. I remember that Brady has had shoulder surgery in a couple off seasons, may not have been as serious but I am pretty sure he did.

 

[shmessy]

You missed my point. Booing poor performance is more justifiable than booing retirement, especially after what Luck went through. I think “quit on them” is misplaced considering the degree of suffering the guy endured.

Don’t worry, Tom, you’re in good company. He misinterpreted mine (complete with laughing emoji to denote humor) too. It’s not worth the 5 pages of subsequent back and forths to even engage. He searches out cab rides to argue their driving routes.

 

[Deus Irae]

Gronk retiring is a bigger story than this in my opinion. He does more to help his team than Luck ever has. Good luck for Luck and Colts can suck it.

The sort of arrogant stupidity that's wrapped into that post is a big part of why 31 NFL fan bases hate the Patriots fan base.

 

[zydecochris]

One other thing that separates Brady is his respect for authority. That subject came up during The Brady 6 with one of his councilors from Michigan. In spite of Brady's GOATness he still respects Belichick's authority over him. Most top QBs probably aren't that way.

I agree. Moreover, Brady not only took team friendly contacts to help get other players, he didn't raise the roof (at least in public) when, until perhaps 2-3 years ago (when Brady entered his forties), the Pats focused their draft resources on defensive players and assumed that between Scar and Brady the offense would end up championship quality anyway. It worked.

In contrast, someone like Peyton Manning would NEVER have put up with something like that, and the Colts always surrounded Manning with the best receivers and pass protectors. Plus, I think that the way that Manning always so clearly demonstrated that "I'm in charge of this offense" was disrespectful of his coaches. Some years ago before Brady won his last 3 rings, I even remember guys like Bill Simmons arguing that this was one of Manning's strengths over Brady, being willing to demand everything revolve around him (putting priority on drafting top receivers and pass protectors, etc.). Of course, after Brady's last three rings nobody argues he isn't the GOAT now, rightly so.

I think Luck was pretty respectful of the Colts authority over him, just like Brady. Unfortunately, unlike the Manning years where the Colts had an average-to-somewhat decent front office under Bill Polian, Luck came in under what was clearly the worst and most dysfunctional front offices in the League under Grigson, hired by arguably the worst owner in the league. They didn't leave any stone unturned when it came to lousiness: terrible drafting (after Luck fell in their laps), idiotic trades (like a first for Trent Richardson) and just a terrible finger-pointing toxic environment between the front office and the coaches and players. Luck tried his best, but he was beat up physically by the lack of support (especially OL) and probably emotionally by the lack of front office support (remember how many times the front office indicated he wasn't injured enough to not be playing?).

Unfortunately (for the Pats) the Colts finally woke up and hired a pretty competent manager in Chris Ballard who immediately started improving the team. But by then I think that Luck had just been beaten down for too long, it just wasn't fun to play anymore. I wish him a good life now, I think he gave it his best, he just had the terrible luck to land in the worst organization in the league.

 

[Redman443]

The sort of arrogant stupidity that's wrapped into that post is a big part of why 31 NFL fan bases hate the Patriots fan base.

29 year old starting NFL QBs don't usually abruptly retire. Its on the colts front office for not protecting their QB. Sure their O line is better now but the damage is already done. O lineman draft picks are boring but they are super important because a QB that gets hit too much will not last long. I think cam newton is next because he has also taken a **** ton of hits.

 

[Deus Irae]

I know the previous GM sucked but they did expend a lot of draft capital on the OL.

We know 3rd through 5th round picks on an interior linemen is considered relatively high. These players rarely get picked with premium picks. Look around the NFL, most are mid-rounders with plenty of UDFAs even playing.

But you can easily look up what they did to shore up the OL in Indy:

1st Rounder Ryan Kelly
1st Rounder Quenton Nelson
2nd Rounder Jack Mewhort
2nd Rounder Braden Smith
2nd Rounder Hugh Thornton
3rd Rounder LeRaven Clark
4th Rounder Zach Banner
4th Rounder Khaled Holmes
5th Rounder Joe Haeg
6th Rounder Justin Anderson
7th Rounder Austin Blythe
7th Rounder Denzelle Good

The above numbers also leave out the fact that they drafted Castonzo in the 1st round the year prior to Luck and he was the left tackle all along.

They also brought in starting FAs like Satele, Cherilus, Donald Thomas, Herremans, Slauson.

The Colts have actually expended more draft capital than most teams on their OL. There are plenty of starting late rounders around the league, UDFAs even. Last year the Patriots, for instance, had this: 7th rounder, 5th rounder, 4th rounder, 3rd rounder, UDFA. This isn't uncommon.

Usually interior lineman go 3-7 rounds, tackles are the premium players.

And not all of those OL were busts either.

The Donald Thomas story is an interesting part of this. He has a pretty good season with the Patriots, then signs a big contract with the Colts, he loses his starting spot, then comes in and gets injured, and that was basically his career.

Luck really held the ball too long and did not have much regard for his body. He was tough pain-wise, but fragile. Willing to put his body on the line, but look where it got him. As I always say to the Bills fans at the annual Patriots game in Buffalo, when they start chanting, "Brady is Lady" (the women are chanting too), "How is it that the most effeminate QB in the NFL is also the greatest QB in NFL history?"

That bag of draft suck is not going to be anything but a bag of draft suck. It's not going to matter how you try to sugar coat it.

 

[Triumph]

I thought that he retired 2 years ago.

 

[Hyped]

13 days ago I unloaded Andrew Luck in a keeper league....and now the other owners think I am the Oracle of FFL....LOL....just pure dumb luck....

 

[TomPatriot]

Don’t worry, Tom, you’re in good company. He misinterpreted mine (complete with laughing emoji to denote humor) too. It’s not worth the 5 pages of subsequent back and forths to even engage. He searches out cab rides to argue their driving routes.

He does like to get the last word. In someone’s immortal words, “Oh God.”

 

[h0c2000]

Unfortunately, i now have a warmer spot in my heart for the Colts. Grigson is somewhere driving a cab and Jacoby Brissett (who, from all accounts in Foxboro, Jupiter Florida and Indy, is one of the best, most mature and quality human beings around) is now the starter. I guess I’ll root for them to go 8-8 and Jacoby going to the Pro-Bowl.

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And Jacoby's a UFA next year! Instant Karma's gonna get you. Is that on Irsay's twitter feed?

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[Clonamery]

Probably some Indiana goof who thinks corn hole is strenuous sport.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

I see Luck inherited the Manning excuses of O-lines and defense.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Mahomes has one season. Until he has a second one, it's fair to question his place on the QB totem pole. You used to be a guy who'd point that out. Now you're a guy posting idiocies like calling Luck a disappointment.

Bring back the old BradyFTW!!!!

I'd like to say you used to be the kind of guy who would refrain from calling 30-year-old Luck the best 'young' QB in the league when he's not even the best QB in his own draft class, but I'm not sure that's true. You've always been the guy to pass off your opinions as facts and double down then resort to ad hominems when that's pointed out, so I can't really say anything's changed.

 

[mosslost]

And Jacoby's a UFA next year! Instant Karma's gonna get you. Is that on Irsay's twitter feed?

Nice opp year for Jacoby

 

[Uptown]