Report: McD showing interest in Packers Job

[Deus Irae]

I get it. This board has a general complex when it comes to Aaron Rodgers because everyone's deeply insecure about Brady's "legacy" for some bizarre reason, but Rodgers is a tremendous quarterback. And McCarthy's playcalling was definitely holding him back.

That's the same sort of nonsense we were fed about Peyton, if we dared to point out his flaws. It was stupid and wrong then, and it's stupid and wrong now.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Breer is banging his Mcdaniels to Green Bay drum.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You get chances to win rings with a great quarterback, not a guarantee. If Adam Vinatieri misses field goals or Malcolm Butler doesn't intercept the ball, or the Falcons call run plays, maybe Tom Brady only has one ring.

I get it. This board has a general complex when it comes to Aaron Rodgers because everyone's deeply insecure about Brady's "legacy" for some bizarre reason, but Rodgers is a tremendous quarterback. And McCarthy's playcalling was definitely holding him back.

Do you just ignore the **** that teammates and coaches say about Rodgers? Or do you think leadership isn’t important from the highest paid player in the NFL?

 

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Do you just ignore the **** that teammates and coaches say about Rodgers? Or do you think leadership isn’t important from the highest paid player in the NFL?

I think there's probably fire frome the smoke that's Rodgers being a headcase. I think there's probably fire from the smoke that Brady's a headcase. These guys are all headcases. I wouldn't want to be friends with any of them. Doesn't mean I wouldn't hitch my coaching wagon to them.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I think there's probably fire from the smoke that Brady's a headcase.

The one thing that even Brady HATERS acknowledge is that he's a great teammate. Heck, Rob Parker would probably take a break from beating his Tom Brady blow-up doll with a baseball bat to call you on this one. It's like the way Red Sox fans felt about Derek Jeter...you may call him many things, including overrated, but not even the biggest Yankee hater would ever call him a bad teammate. Brady is held in the same esteem, so I have no idea where this is coming from.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Yeah, the way plays are being talked about, you'd think that it was basically Madden where you push square and can change the play entirely. Every quarterback has some leeway with the playcall and can alter protection schemes and the like - and the Patriots rely heavily on option routes where the play essentially evolves after the snap, in many cases.

But usually it's just changing what one player is doing, because you don't have time to communicate and change what every player is doing, unlike in a video game where the players just move in pre-programmed ways. You'll see this with the Patriots when Brady audibles to a run; his receivers still run their routes, often not aware the play's changed until the whistle blows.

The problem with McCarthy is that his staple play was slant-flats, and it was basically all he called.

This makes no sense.

The Packers have had a great offense for many years, so does McCarthy get credit for that? At what point did he go from being really smart to really stupid? Just as recently as 2016 (before Rodgers injuries), that offense was among the best in the NFL.

Mike McCarthy, who was also the playcaller during two MVP seasons from Aaron Rodgers and for all these years while Rodgers has put up a 104 passer rating, just suddenly sucks?

Aaron Rodgers is not good right now, and last year he was injured. Maybe it's injury, maybe it's age, maybe he'll be great again. But right now, Aaron Rodgers is the biggest problem with a team that just wrote an $80M check to ensure he is the highest paid player in the league. The same guy whose done just fine with offensive philosophy just lost it? Wow, what a coincidence, just at the time that Rodgers appears to be missing a ton of passes he usually makes.

And since you think Josh McDaniels is a better playcaller than Mike McCarthy, it's hard to prove either way, but Josh was run out of Denver without a quarterback like Brady and then flailed in St. Louis. Meanwhile the Patriots offense has always been great with Brady under Weis, O'Brien, and McDaniels. The quarterback has so much more to do with the production of the offense, and the playcaller/offensive coordinator is immensely overrated in general. Just look at Joe Flacco, who puts up the same 83.0 passer rating with like eight different offensive coordinators, all brought in because they bring some kind of new look. Or look at Bill O'Brien's supposed offensive success with Brady and Watson compared to the other low life QBs he's had.

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

Green Bay is a stable place... unlike Cleveland. It’s a no brainer which job is more appealing.

 

[Deus Irae]

The one thing that even Brady HATERS acknowledge is that he's a great teammate. Heck, Rob Parker would probably take a break from beating his Tom Brady blow-up doll with a baseball bat to call you on this one. It's like the way Red Sox fans felt about Derek Jeter...you may call him many things, including overrated, but not even the biggest Yankee hater would ever call him a bad teammate. Brady is held in the same esteem, so I have no idea where this is coming from.

K.Y.P.

 

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This makes no sense.

The Packers have had a great offense for many years, so does McCarthy get credit for that? At what point did he go from being really smart to really stupid? Just as recently as 2016 (before Rodgers injuries), that offense was among the best in the NFL.

Mike McCarthy, who was also the playcaller during two MVP seasons from Aaron Rodgers and for all these years while Rodgers has put up a 104 passer rating, just suddenly sucks?

Aaron Rodgers is not good right now, and last year he was injured. Maybe it's injury, maybe it's age, maybe he'll be great again. But right now, Aaron Rodgers is the biggest problem with a team that just wrote an $80M check to ensure he is the highest paid player in the league. The same guy whose done just fine with offensive philosophy just lost it? Wow, what a coincidence, just at the time that Rodgers appears to be missing a ton of passes he usually makes.

And since you think Josh McDaniels is a better playcaller than Mike McCarthy, it's hard to prove either way, but Josh was run out of Denver without a quarterback like Brady and then flailed in St. Louis. Meanwhile the Patriots offense has always been great with Brady under Weis, O'Brien, and McDaniels. The quarterback has so much more to do with the production of the offense, and the playcaller/offensive coordinator is immensely overrated in general. Just look at Joe Flacco, who puts up the same 83.0 passer rating with like eight different offensive coordinators, all brought in because they bring some kind of new look. Or look at Bill O'Brien's supposed offensive success with Brady and Watson compared to the other low life QBs he's had.

I don't disagree with you. A great quarterback is a prerequisite for success in the NFL. A great playcaller can complement that, but what you absolutely need is a guy who doesn't get in the way of the quarterback, and once the quarterback perceives that the coach is getting in his way, you should probably show the coach the door. Where we differ is that I recognize McCarthy got in Rodgers' way. Grumbles about McCarthy's bizarre love for slant-flats have been going on for years, so this isn't exactly new.

 

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The one thing that even Brady HATERS acknowledge is that he's a great teammate. Heck, Rob Parker would probably take a break from beating his Tom Brady blow-up doll with a baseball bat to call you on this one. It's like the way Red Sox fans felt about Derek Jeter...you may call him many things, including overrated, but not even the biggest Yankee hater would ever call him a bad teammate. Brady is held in the same esteem, so I have no idea where this is coming from.

He's literally the leader of a bizarre cult that shills for magic concussion water and whose personal guru was at the center of drumbeats of dysfunction in the locker room. At best it's just grifting and at worst it's actively crazy. He also throws fits and screams at his coaches. But he's the best quarterback of all time, not my friend, so who cares. Same goes for Rodgers.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

He's literally the leader of a bizarre cult that shills for magic concussion water and whose personal guru was at the center of drumbeats of dysfunction in the locker room. At best it's just grifting and at worst it's actively crazy. He also throws fits and screams at his coaches. But he's the best quarterback of all time, not my friend, so who cares. Same goes for Rodgers.

All true, but the big difference is the effect they have on their teammates, and the problem is that Rodgers is losing now, not throwing for 500 yards in the SB and winning MVP in this “dysfunction” he created.

 

[mgteich]

I think that the packers job is a trap. The best that can be done is a season or two of success at the end of the career of a top QB. John would get little credit, even if there was success.

Now, the Cleveland job (if it even available) is another story entirely. IMHO, that is the right job for Josh.

 

[captain stone]

Breer is banging his McDaniels to Green Bay drum.

They can have him.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

They can have him.

Nobody did well yesteday.
I read Brett Favre was endorsing Brian Daboll.