Gronk
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
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I'm not sure I agree that GB is a terrible job - I think the points about GB vs CLE are all valid...young QB vs old QB, team on the rise vs team in flux, wide open cap situation with tons of young players vs okay/average cap situation for a team with a decent amount of veterans, etc.
I said before McCarthy was fired that I think Josh going to GB would be a high-expectation environment, and I still think that's true. I also don't think they're in as terrible shape cap or roster-wise as some are making it sound, and having a chance to coach one of the elite QBs in the league has to be a hard thing to turn down as an offensive coach and professional competitor. That being said, the opportunity to be the guy that 'LeBrons' the Browns by bringing the title back to your home state could be intriguing too. But at this point in his life, isn't Foxboro "home" as much as anywhere?
CLE has some pieces and looks like they're in a position to make the leap with the right coach and a few more smart moves. Look at the Bears this year - I'm from IL originally as a kid and the Bears are my other woman, and I laughed at some of the moves they've made in recent years, but they (finally) got the right coach with the right QB, and got some guys to fill out the skill positions, and kept Fangio around to coach the defense...and there they are holding the NFCN lead when they were expected to be 3rd at best, they've beat the absolute crap out of some teams, and they've been IN every game whether missing their QB or best D players or whatever. That could be the Browns in 2 years. But they're also still the Browns.
Ultimately I believe (and hope) Josh stays and that there is some sort of transition planned, which seems logical based on his decision to walk away from Indy very late in the game last offseason. If it's true that BB isn't bound to coach interminably, then something needs to be planned or thought about, I can't imagine them going outside the organization for a HC if they believe that's in the next 2-4 years, and if that's not McD then Flores is the only realistic candidate left and he hasn't even been formally named a coordinator yet. But if that sort of "wink wink" arrangement wasn't made, I would think that both GB and CLE are both attractive landing spots for him, albeit for very different reasons...definitely moreso than the Colts.
I said before McCarthy was fired that I think Josh going to GB would be a high-expectation environment, and I still think that's true. I also don't think they're in as terrible shape cap or roster-wise as some are making it sound, and having a chance to coach one of the elite QBs in the league has to be a hard thing to turn down as an offensive coach and professional competitor. That being said, the opportunity to be the guy that 'LeBrons' the Browns by bringing the title back to your home state could be intriguing too. But at this point in his life, isn't Foxboro "home" as much as anywhere?
CLE has some pieces and looks like they're in a position to make the leap with the right coach and a few more smart moves. Look at the Bears this year - I'm from IL originally as a kid and the Bears are my other woman, and I laughed at some of the moves they've made in recent years, but they (finally) got the right coach with the right QB, and got some guys to fill out the skill positions, and kept Fangio around to coach the defense...and there they are holding the NFCN lead when they were expected to be 3rd at best, they've beat the absolute crap out of some teams, and they've been IN every game whether missing their QB or best D players or whatever. That could be the Browns in 2 years. But they're also still the Browns.
Ultimately I believe (and hope) Josh stays and that there is some sort of transition planned, which seems logical based on his decision to walk away from Indy very late in the game last offseason. If it's true that BB isn't bound to coach interminably, then something needs to be planned or thought about, I can't imagine them going outside the organization for a HC if they believe that's in the next 2-4 years, and if that's not McD then Flores is the only realistic candidate left and he hasn't even been formally named a coordinator yet. But if that sort of "wink wink" arrangement wasn't made, I would think that both GB and CLE are both attractive landing spots for him, albeit for very different reasons...definitely moreso than the Colts.