Rodgers to sign 4 yr/134 Mil extension

[Jackson 2]

Yep patriots playing cheap with Brady

I agree he's way underpaid, but why did he sign the recent extension?

 

[Deus Irae]

No but there overall salary restraint/structure very much helps and Brady taking a few less bucks helps in a lot of ways.

Nonsense. This is a binary issue. I acknowledged that Brady taking less is a difference and it could, theoretically, have a real impact, while dismissing the notion that it's the difference. You can either claim that it's the difference, or you can acknowledge that you're in agreement with me.

There is not a "But... but...." on this one.

 

[Uptown]

This...

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Maybe. I've been a fan for a while now (2014 QB2) so I'm not surprised at his success tbh.

The "film" angle won't happen, if it does at all, until next year.

Honestly it's just something people say they think makes them sounds smart. Most have no clue what it means & couldn't explain it if their life depended on it.

KS playbook is as deep as there is in the league. They used maybe 15% last year. New weapons on both sides of the ball.

SF is real as is Jimmy.

I don't think it'll take as long as next year. It's not his first time starting ever. Plenty of QBs start out looking real strong until the book is out on them. If he has strong performances week 12 and beyond then I'll start drinking the Kool aid

 

[denverpatsfan]

Another 4 years of hyping this guy? When is HE going to retire?

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

This...

I believe they only met once in the regular season. Rodgers won that game. Pass defense was awful. Interesting to see how we fare against them this time around.

 

[BobDigital]

As much as we make fun of the contract. This is what he should be worth. Rodgers takes a 5-11 team and turns them into a 11-5 team. You will have a hard time convincing me that a QB with the ability to do that isn't worth that kind of money.

I honestly think most NFL QBs are underpaid relative to their ability to impact the game.

If you look at the % of cap used on a QB and compare it to the total % of effect they have on the game (keeping in mind that you have a floor of player that you can sign at all times, and the natural cap space after to sign other players) it is hard to to say a top QB can't control at least 25% of the outcome in the game with his own play alone.

I know people will say "Well if you put a great QB on a team with JAG players around him he would go 0-16!" My response is this. Why would there be nothing but JAG players around him?

Let's say you sign Aaron Rodgers at 33.3M a year. Then you sign your other 52 roster players and 10 practice squad players.

If they are JAGS and you pay them at the price of JAGs you will have over 100M in cap space free.

The only way the above scenario would come to pass is if a GM was actively sabotaging their team. A QB will always have some bare level of quality NFL help around him as long as the cap space is used without dumping it all into crap player on purpose.

 

[edkk323]

29 M a season is nothing compared to what Gisele is making. We owe her so much.... She is just so beautiful and so giving for allowing her lesser half to play a dangerous game for fun.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I'm still having trouble fathoming this. How in any way does Green Bay benefit from this deal as a franchise and why would they have any motivation to do it, unless Rodgers was behind the scenes threatening to hold our or be a pain? Rodgers will be 35 in December. They had him on a deal worth around $22M`per year through his age 37 season. They could have franchised him for his age 38 season. That would be roughly $80M for the next three seasons, and then they'd consider how much he' going to be worth, an athletic scrambling quarterback, going into age 39. Instead they just paid him the $80M this instant and will be paying him a lot more money every season. This was all to secure his services from ages 39-41? He really has the franchise by the balls, and they are weak. They worship him like the fans do, to the point of making highly irrational, high-stakes decisions like this one.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

As much as we make fun of the contract. This is what he should be worth. Rodgers takes a 5-11 team and turns them into a 11-5 team. You will have a hard time convincing me that a QB with the ability to do that isn't worth that kind of money.

I honestly think most NFL QBs are underpaid relative to their ability to impact the game.

If you look at the % of cap used on a QB and compare it to the total % of effect they have on the game (keeping in mind that you have a floor of player that you can sign at all times, and the natural cap space after to sign other players) it is hard to to say a top QB can't control at least 25% of the outcome in the game with his own play alone.

I know people will say "Well if you put a great QB on a team with JAG players around him he would go 0-16!" My response is this. Why would there be nothing but JAG players around him?

Let's say you sign Aaron Rodgers at 33.3M a year. Then you sign your other 52 roster players and 10 practice squad players.

If they are JAGS and you pay them at the price of JAGs you will have over 100M in cap space free.

The only way the above scenario would come to pass is if a GM was actively sabotaging their team. A QB will always have some bare level of quality NFL help around him as long as the cap space is used without dumping it all into crap player on purpose.

It's not the contract amount, relative to value, but that they just took an enormous risk that he sustains his health and level of play, despite having all the leverage with two years left on the deal and the franchise tag.

 

[BobDigital]

It's not the contract amount, relative to value, but that they just took an enormous risk that he sustains his health and level of play, despite having all the leverage with two years left on the deal and the franchise tag.

I'm not saying they should have done the contract given the contractual situation they had. I am saying paying him 33.5M a year is perfectly fine for the kind of impact the player has on the game.

 

[Ring 6]

And despite this, they find a bunch of castoffs at the WR position for him without getting him premium talent

Because they don’t need to. They spend the resources on positions Brady doesn’t make better.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I believe they only met once in the regular season. Rodgers won that game. Pass defense was awful. Interesting to see how we fare against them this time around.

Yep, that was in 2014 when we had Revis. But we won the super bowl that year while Rodgers choked.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Because they don’t need to. They spend the resources on positions Brady doesn’t make better.

They don’t need to but this year i feel they should get him another wideout. Position very thin also the guy’s 41 no matter how great he has been.

 

[Ring 6]

This...

Rodgers would have to go 102-7 to equal Brady’s w/l record in the regular season.
Brady could lose 50 straight and still have a higher winning percentage.
Brady could lose 8 consecutive playoff games and still have a better post season win %.
At his current career rate Rodgers will equal Brady’s 5 sb wins at age 90.
This is kind of fun....

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Rodgers would have to go 102-7 to equal Brady’s w/l record in the regular season.
Brady could lose 50 straight and still have a higher winning percentage.
Brady could lose 8 consecutive playoff games and still have a better post season win %.
At his current career rate Rodgers will equal Brady’s 5 sb wins at age 90.
This is kind of fun....

I think Rodgers is the most physically gifted QB ever but it doesn’t mean much. He’s not the greatest QB ever like some want to put him in the conversation. I think he would need to win a couple of more.

 

[TBR]

Who?

 

[goheels22002]

Rodgers would have to go 102-7 to equal Brady’s w/l record in the regular season.
Brady could lose 50 straight and still have a higher winning percentage.
Brady could lose 8 consecutive playoff games and still have a better post season win %.
At his current career rate Rodgers will equal Brady’s 5 sb wins at age 90.
This is kind of fun....

Green Bay would have to host every NFC Championship Game under this contract to tie Foxboro hosting AFCCGs during the Brady era.

 

[Deus Irae]

I think Rodgers is the most physically gifted QB ever but it doesn’t mean much. He’s not the greatest QB ever like some want to put him in the conversation. I think he would need to win a couple of more.

How is Rodgers more physically gifted than Cunningham or Vick, just for two right off the top of my head?

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I don't think it'll take as long as next year. It's not his first time starting ever. Plenty of QBs start out looking real strong until the book is out on them. If he has strong performances week 12 and beyond then I'll start drinking the Kool aid

Hey to each their own. I'm all about projection. Any one can you after the fact.

I think you missed my point though. How can you get a proper read on someone who was working w 15% of the playbook, has new weapons w what looks like an improved defense?

He took a lottery team & won out. After looking vg in action here.

It's a completely different team that by all accounts has improved in all areas.

Again I think it's just something people say considering I haven't heard a logical argument to support it.

Just "sample size", "teams will look at the tape" etc. Again to each their own.