What is Wrong with Brady? The Debate Continues...

[PatsFanSince74]

There's nothing "wrong with Brady."
All but a handful or so of teams in the League would trade places with the Pats in a heartbeat.
Enjoy today.
Let tomorrow take care of itself.

 

[scout]

The NFC is fierce this year.

Huh? I was thinking it was a down year. The Vikings appear to be the cream of the crop and have a starting a QB without playoff experience. The Rams are no better regarding the experience factor. The Eagles might have been the team before their starting QB went out. Didn't want to highjack this thread, but that was a terrible comment.

 

[Snake Eyes]

What is wrong with Brady?

He’s the leading candidate for MVP in 2017.

He has led them to a 12-3 season despite losing numerous top skill players.

He was 2nd in MVP voting in 2016.

He was named the best player in football by his peers in 2016, and he’s the only player to be in their top 5 for the last 3,5,and 7 years in their yearly vote.

He has been the best player in football for the last five seasons, and he’s the only QB to win multiple Lombardi's over that period of time.

And despite all of this there are actually people who call themselves Patriot fans who label him “ a liability,” and call those who stand by his success “ homers.?”

GTFOOH

Do you think he'd be the MVP candidate if he played the whole season like he played the past few games? Lately he's been off, and throwing a LOT more INTs.

 

[RayClay]

Do you think he'd be the MVP candidate if he played the whole season like he played the past few games? Lately he's been off, and throwing a LOT more INTs.

What does that have to do with anything? He hasn't been MVP most years, should we have cut him then? Was he a liability? He's banged up and he's got 1 1/2 [sorry Dola] receivers he's comfortable with.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Do you think he'd be the MVP candidate if he played the whole season like he played the past few games? Lately he's been off, and throwing a LOT more INTs.

Using that criteria no one would be MVP. Brady has had the best season of anyone in football and that’s the MVP criteria.

 

[voluntarysaftey]

What does that have to do with anything? He hasn't been MVP most years, should we have cut him then? Was he a liability? He's banged up and he's got 1 1/2 [sorry Dola] receivers he's comfortable with.

No one is saying they would want another QB over Brady or that he should be cut or that he's not still one of the best.... BUT he is not playing like his usual self. Hopefully whatever is nagging him gets fixed by round 2 of the playoffs because in the years that its obvious he has an injury heading into the playoffs it usually doesn't end up to expecatations

 

[Ring 6]

Do you think he'd be the MVP candidate if he played the whole season like he played the past few games? Lately he's been off, and throwing a LOT more INTs.

Yes. In an analysis of everyone’s worst games Brady would be the mvp.

 

[Ring 6]

No one is saying they would want another QB over Brady or that he should be cut or that he's not still one of the best.... BUT he is not playing like his usual self. Hopefully whatever is nagging him gets fixed by round 2 of the playoffs

He is playing just like his usual self but for a couple of ints.
If you want to think tom Brady suddenly forgot about ball security and is now a vast interception risk that’s up to you but otherwise there is nothing to see here

 

[mosslost]

I'm not sure that is a very compelling argument to a post that was half intended to be a light joke and half as a genuine question about his play. Whenever someone refuses to engage with a legitimate topic of conversation with anything other than jejune insults, then I think we know where things stand.

“Jejune” lol ....dumb

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Some of you should cut your fingers off so this ****-posting ends a.s.a.p.

 

[RayClay]

No one is saying they would want another QB over Brady or that he should be cut or that he's not still one of the best.... BUT he is not playing like his usual self. Hopefully whatever is nagging him gets fixed by round 2 of the playoffs because in the years that its obvious he has an injury heading into the playoffs it usually doesn't end up to expecatations

OP said he was a liability. His words. Do you agree?

 

[tasmlab]

I've edited this post to reflect the thoughtful commentary on here that has called me out for suggesting Brady has room for improvement -- because even the GOAT can be even greater. The picks place the Patriots in a difficult position and Brady would be the first to tell you that, as they're on to the Jets, he will be reviewing his picks rather than watching his td throw to Gronk while salivating.

Long story short, what has been wrong with Brady compared to his usual self? He has been missing open receivers, has been throwing picks, etc. I'd say it is about the pass rush of the opposition, but even when the pressure isn't there he has been playing like the boogeyman is about to get him. In year's past, he's been hit more often but hasn't played like this for this number of games.

So, is this him fighting an injury? A disruption to his training regimen? A psychic disturbance from beyond the grave or Peyton with a voodoo doll? Marriage trouble? The beginning of the dive off the cliff (aka "This is 40, Part II")?

Today, Brady was a liability. The team would have beat the Bills 36-9 if you take away the pick 6. It was a close 16-16 game that could have been 20-16 Bills if they hadn't lost that touchdown before the half. Brady had some good throws, but as many iffy ones and the running game bailed them out. And that pick 6 will cost them a game in the playoffs if Brady doesn't clean a few aspects of his game up. Just saying.

You have a lot of "funny" tags. Is this a joke? Over my head I guess. 37-16. Brady threw a pick 6 in the superbowl and it was the greatest game ever. The other team has the same salary cap and gets paid too. To defend their lone playoff hopes in like 20 years. Christ.

 

[RayClay]

No one is saying they would want another QB over Brady or that he should be cut or that he's not still one of the best.... BUT he is not playing like his usual self. Hopefully whatever is nagging him gets fixed by round 2 of the playoffs because in the years that its obvious he has an injury heading into the playoffs it usually doesn't end up to expecatations

There is something wrong with him. 300 pound guys keep hitting him. I bet that doesn't happen to anyone typing in their easy chairs. Yet he came back and was perfect in the second half, winning easily.

He has 300 pound men hitting him disease and will need to wait a while for the cure.

 

[Huckleberry1]

No one is saying they would want another QB over Brady or that he should be cut or that he's not still one of the best.... BUT he is not playing like his usual self. Hopefully whatever is nagging him gets fixed by round 2 of the playoffs because in the years that its obvious he has an injury heading into the playoffs it usually doesn't end up to expecatations

As Ray said he called Brady a liability, and he thinks they should have traded Brady and kept
Garrapolo. That sounds like wants a different QB.

Imo Brady dealt with hand and Achilles injuries but he’s getting better, and he was also dealing with losing Hogan, Burkhead, White, and Gronk V Miami. He should have all of the as well as Waddle back for the play offs and that will make a big big difference. No QB would play as well using scrubs over proven player’s, and while I understand Rob Parker acting as if he should it makes no sense coming from Patriot fans who should know this and know better.

 

[Joker]

"jejune"...my vocabulary is obviously too simplistic to understand the meaning of this often used everyday word. Perhaps the pompous Pontificatus Blabberatus generator of this thread would like to stoop down amongst the masses here and edify us as to its' meaning.

 

[Nehalem]

ps. I do want 50-5 or better. Standards, man. Gotta have em.

So you find a Brady getting sacked in the end zone acceptable?

 

[Jangles]

Yes. In an analysis of everyone’s worst games Brady would be the mvp.

Yes

16 TDs and 32 interceptions = MVP

 

[Ring 6]

Yes

16 TDs and 32 interceptions = MVP

Compared to only including everyone else’s worst games yes, it does.

 

[sb1]

IMO Brady locked up MVP on the final drive of the Pitt game. Moments this season don’t get bigger than that and he delivered.

 

[Jangles]

Compared to only including everyone else’s worst games yes, it does.

A new level of homer has been achieved