Central Thread For Mourning/Canonizing Jimmy Garoppolo

[luuked]

To keep repeating my point since the JG trade date: Even if Jimmy G ends up being a bust, the trade was reckless. The key reason is you have given away our crucial QB (equivalent of a medium grade NFL starter) Insurance for the 2017 Season, for the same price you would have gotten next Spring.

So you would have preferred to completely destroy the teams salary structure for the next 1-2 years and maybe release a couple of players over keeping JG for 9 more weeks to get the same return ?

Please go troll somewhere else..

 

[Brewskies]

Extremely unlikely.

Just curious, why would you say that it is highly unlikely that Jimmy G wouldn't be a HOFer? Did I read your response wrong?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The key part of the trade everyone overlooks: he was traded to an NFC team. We don’t know the behind-the-scenes stuff other than blabber from uninformed best writers. Maybe JG didn’t want to play in Brady’s shadow. Maybe he didn’t want to play for a hometown discount. Or, most likely, it’s as simple as the Patriots making a very tough call and choosing to ride it out with Brady. Regardless, the trade wasn’t about the draft compensation. Would you rather they got a firtst round pick, or even two first round picks, but traded him to a divisional team or the Broncos?

 

[mosslost]

To keep repeating my point since the JG trade date: Even if Jimmy G ends up being a bust, the trade was reckless. The key reason is you have given away our crucial QB (equivalent of a medium grade NFL starter) Insurance for the 2017 Season, for the same price you would have gotten next Spring.

you mean tag and trade?

 

[mosslost]

The key part of the trade everyone overlooks: he was traded to an NFC team. We don’t know the behind-the-scenes stuff other than blabber from uninformed best writers. Maybe JG didn’t want to play in Brady’s shadow. Maybe he didn’t want to play for a hometown discount. Or, most likely, it’s as simple as the Patriots making a very tough call and choosing to ride it out with Brady. Regardless, the trade wasn’t about the draft compensation. Would you rather they got a firtst round pick, or even two first round picks, but traded him to a divisional team or the Broncos?

I think the "model" they worked from was "look what happened to Indy giving up Peyton Manning" to go with Luck. I mean in their case Peyton just missed a season with neck injury, and luck was built up as the best QB prospect in a generation. ANd Peyton was easily just as loved by Indy fans and Pats fans love Brady. And they had to watch Peyton take an AFC rival to 2 Super Bowls and win 12 to 13 games four straight years and Luck is now missing games and seasons.

Basically, no matter what Jimmy looked like in practice very limited game time were they doing the same thing with Brady, who is not hurt, just won a 2 SBs, and is playing like an MVP, that Indy did with Peyton.. (remember only 1 and half games of Jimmy at the point of the trade and none in over a year. There was no "hyped mic'd up Niner video yet, not that that even matters to me. Hell people thought Joey Harrington was going to be good once)

 

[groundgame]

you mean tag and trade?

Yes, tag and trade.

 

[mosslost]

Yes, tag and trade.

DOes that mean the team we trade him to has to pay the Franchise pay, or make new ocntract with Jimmy.. How does it affect both teams cap number for 18?

 

[mosslost]

Yes, tag and trade.

Honestly, everything aside, Brady really needs to try and live up to his promises to play as long as he can now, as long as he stays good. And the team needs to identify and draft high his replacement now.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

To keep repeating my point since the JG trade date: Even if Jimmy G ends up being a bust, the trade was reckless. The key reason is you have given away our crucial QB (equivalent of a medium grade NFL starter) Insurance for the 2017 Season, for the same price you would have gotten next Spring.

1. Pats would first need to free up $23M in cap
2. Then, Miss early Free Agency and consequent team improvements
3. Only teams with large cap space could sign JAG
4. Risk that teams KNOWING you have $23M frozen and can't participate in FA, drag out the signing low ball the Pats

For example: Spring 2018 SF a team with the cap$ might be reluctant to roll the dice on an unproven player for a huge contract

 

[pwes]

Shame he couldn't be 3 years younger and drafted last year. But I am excited to see Jimmy succeed. Watching highlights of his SF games you can see how elated he is to finally be in the driver seat of a team. He's a good guy and QB and helped us last year. He deserves whatever success comes his way.

 

[Wordsmyth]

Are we really going to be inundated by Jimmy highlights every week for the rest of his career?

Garrapolites: Get the F over it. Christ.

Grandpa, did someone crap in your corn flakes?

Get off my lawn!

 

[RobertWeathers]

Grandpa, did someone crap in your corn flakes?

Get off my lawn!

Clearly you are one of them.

Hes gone. Get over it!

 

[Bill Lee]

I think they very well may have, but then we’d have had to free up around 23m dollars to do so as a placeholder. Wasn’t worth it. Still would’ve liked to have seen a little more thrown into the deal, but it is what it is now.

Absolutely. The best mind in football thought through all the outcomes and kept him right up to the trade deadline of the last year of his contract. The player didn't want to get paid, he wanted to play, and with the GOAT ahead of him, that was a non-starter. The player got sent to the a team on the other side of the country in the other conference. Not much else you could do, if you stop and think about it.

Kudos to the mods for consolidating all the various wrist slashing and gay man fantasy stuff in one thread. Jimmy G plays for another team now. This is a Patriots forum, not a 49ers forum. We're on to Buffalo!

 

[rochrist]

I was thinking that too, and I think this is right about the time where the tape starts to catch up with Jimmy. The Jags are going to be the litmus test to see what he is really made of. They are the first competent and pragmatic organization he's going to face, spearheaded by Tom Coughlin, and with a competent HC in Marrone. If anyone can expose his weaknesses and exploit them, it's going to be the Jags.

Well, the Jags are a much better team than SF, but tape isn't necessarily going to help people with his lightening quick release and rapid decision making.

 

[rochrist]

You think they would have got a high 2nd if they franchised him and traded?

They did with Cassel who was nowhere near as good.

 

[TbSB5]

I agree with OP.

 

[condon84]

The fact that we only got a second round pick is criminal to me.

Feels like we may have missed another decade plus of contending for championships once Brady retires in a few years.

BTW, we've been giving away good players for second round picks the past few years. Chandler, Collins, and now Jimmy.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

Still a small sample size against a very weak schedule, bit early for the hype he's getting i'm expecting a bad week this week against Jacksonville.

Starting to get ready to eat humble pie today

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

Jimmy can clinch us a bye by beating the Jags. Go Jimmy!

 

[Wordsmyth]

Clearly you are one of them.

Hes gone. Get over it!

Straw man, Captain Cantankerous!

Time for your Geritol!