Cian Fahey on Tom Brady (2)

[tasmlab]

There may be merit to resting Tom early in the season, but who wants LESS Tom Brady games?

 

[AvocadoIceCream]

Not surprised Andy hasn’t heard people talk about Antonio Brown for MVP

All he does it watch Brady highlights and reads the TB12 method

Totally biased! Fake news!

 

[Kontradiction]

There may be merit to resting Tom early in the season, but who wants LESS Tom Brady games?

There isn't. This is about as right on the money as K. Dog's predictions about Gilmore on the Patriots have been, to date. Brady has an injured Achilles and was playing in the Miami game with one threat at the intermediate level of the defense at WR, one WR that was brought back from injury and force fed snaps too early, and without the GOAT TE.

 

[Guts]

So Tom is not allowed to havd a bad game anymore??????

 

[Kontradiction]

So Tom is not allowed to havd a bad game anymore??????

He's never been allowed to have a bad game.

 

[50-yard-line]

3 articles written the day I made the statement. I guess my crime is having a job so that I am not up to the minute on media speculation.

The Brown for MVP chatter really started Sunday night - the announcers spoke about it repeatedly. The Steelers have won four games in a row by the skin of their teeth and on the hands of Brown.

He should be mentioned.

And unless there's a meltdown coming, which I don't see for a moment, Brady should be the MVP. Every year, the league finds a reason to give it to someone else. He should have 4 or 5 of them in his trophy case already.

 

[Ring 6]

The Brown for MVP chatter really started Sunday night - the announcers spoke about it repeatedly. The Steelers have won four games in a row by the skin of their teeth and on the hands of Brown.

He should be mentioned.

And unless there's a meltdown coming, which I don't see for a moment, Brady should be the MVP. Every year, the league finds a reason to give it to someone else. He should have 4 or 5 of them in his trophy case already.

He has lost them because the criteria is based very heavily on pretty stats. This year he also has the pretty stats.

Look they talked up Wentz who was never going to win because they needed someone to talk up. Now that he is hurt they needed someone else so they found brown. Just because he is the flavor of the week doesn’t mean he could win.

 

[50-yard-line]

He has lost them because the criteria is based very heavily on pretty stats. This year he also has the pretty stats.

Look they talked up Wentz who was never going to win because they needed someone to talk up. Now that he is hurt they needed someone else so they found brown. Just because he is the flavor of the week doesn’t mean he could win.

I don't disagree at all with this observation.

That said, it's good for the league and other fanbases to talk up people like Brown, so they will.

And as I said, unless Brady simply ****s the bed, which wold be unbelievably out of character/history, I don't see this year's MVP vote even remotely close - and I didn't, even before Wentz got hurt.

ps. I'd like to see Brees get a few votes, though. I love Brees, but that's just me.

 

[upstater1]

The interceptable passes had everything to do with Brady not having weapons and the offense not having a good game, so he went long and got intercepted. Big deal.

The last thing I want is Brady worrying about his interception tally when he determines what he needs to do to win the game.

 

[Ring 6]

I don't disagree at all with this observation.

That said, it's good for the league and other fanbases to talk up people like Brown, so they will.

And as I said, unless Brady simply ****s the bed, which wold be unbelievably out of character/history, I don't see this year's MVP vote even remotely close - and I didn't, even before Wentz got hurt.

ps. I'd like to see Brees get a few votes, though. I love Brees, but that's just me.

Total agreement, except I can’t say I love any non patriot. It’s either patriot or enemy

 

[Ring 6]

The interceptable passes had everything to do with Brady not having weapons and the offense not having a good game, so he went long and got intercepted. Big deal.

The last thing I want is Brady worrying about his interception tally when he determines what he needs to do to win the game.

Agree. There are some games and situations where you have to take the risk of an int. Brady has always been willing to do that which is why he has such ridiculous comebacks and records with 50+ passes etc.
where Brady is different is that he only does it when he has to and in the right situation will throw it away and get them next play or drive.

Thus is one of those bradyesque things that statistics don’t capture. He could be the best ever at situational football. He plays different and his decision making changes based upon game situations.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Brady had several errant throws. However the people who have seen the all 22 say the Miami game was all about excellent plan and execution on the part of Miami and poor plan and execution on the part of the Patriots.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Mvp voters have never exhibited this.
They certainly have exhibited an over reliance on stats but Brady is the best stat-wise as well this year.
It’s not a fan vote.

True - this is not a fan vote however the writers live in different regions too.

 

[JMC00]

Combine that with 2 mediocre-to-poor performances along with Brown absolutely going off like a madman over the last 4 games (40 catches/600 yds/6 TDs), and it isn’t difficult to see how the “consensus” (clear cut or otherwise ) may have dwindled a bit, making the race closer with a big showdown approaching on Sunday.

Vegas disagrees with you

According to Bovada LV, Brady currently is a heavy favorite at 5/8. Antonio Brown and Russell Wilson are next at 6/1

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Just to be clear, that's consistent with Fahey's analysis. Fahey said Brady was great at the start of 2016 but then, particularly late in the season, threw more interceptable passes. Had Brady been rested at the start of the season like I recommended, he'd be playing MVP level going in the playoffs, which is what we want.

So, in 2016 he was rested 4 games due to a corrupt league, played 12 games, and tailed off at the end.

So you suggest resting him for 4 games (like 2016) as the way to NOT duplicate 2016?

I am fine with duplicating 2016, other than a corrupt NFL office affecting the season.

News flash #1: TB12 is getting extra rest during the week

News flash #2: an instance of him having the 24th-worst passer rating game of his career in a very tough environment, trying to carry a banged-up short-handed team, is no sign of the apocalypse.

Duh... It's not the time of year to throw games by putting in Hoyer.

 

[PatsDeb]

You have 16 chances to get your team into position to secure home field and make a run in the playoffs. That's it. Why on earth would you voluntarily rest the best player in football (and your best chance for a win in ANY game, ever) during any of them, except maybe the last one, and only if you've locked up home field in the playoffs (which this year, as in many other years, won't occur until the last few weeks of the season)? Last year was a fluke that worked out in our favor (going 3-1 without Brady), but we could have just as easily been 0-4, like we could have been this year. Even with Brady in we only went 2-2. You are advocating giving away the season before it even starts, or by suggesting this topic be revisited, by giving it away now, with the end in sight, and our team poised at least for a first round bye, and if we can beat Pittsburgh, in the driver's seat for the #1 seed in the AFC. As Herm Edwards says, "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME," not to rest someone for the end of season or a playoff run that may never happen because you didn't take care of business along the way. Sheesh. It was one bad game. Let's see how we do against Pittsburgh.

 

[Ring 6]

True - this is not a fan vote however the writers live in different regions too.

But the bias you are talking about is fans.

 

[supafly]

3 articles written the day I made the statement. I guess my crime is having a job so that I am not up to the minute on media speculation.

No one is suggesting that you should be looked down upon for not having the up to the minute info, but we were discussing other MVP candidates so that’s how it came up. You stated that there weren’t really any other candidates and that Brady would pretty much be a unanimous decision. I don’t think that’s the case. Actually, I don’t ever think that was the case at any point in time because you had a lot of votes for Wentz, too.

Also, Antonio Brown has had 637 yards, 6 TDs and 39 catches over the past month, bringing his total to 99 catches and 1,509 yards on the season. He didn’t just come out of nowhere prior to any article being written on Sunday.

 

[Ring 6]

No one is suggesting that you should be looked down upon for not having the up to the minute info, but we were discussing other MVP candidates so that’s how it came up. You stated that there weren’t really any other candidates and that Brady would pretty much be a unanimous decision.

Why do you insist on lying about what I said?

I don’t think that’s the case. Actually, I don’t ever think that was the case at any point in time because you had a lot of votes for Wentz, too.

Wentz would have received many second place votes and possibly a couple firsts.

Also, Antonio Brown has had 637 yards, 6 TDs and 39 catches over the past month, bringing his total to 99 catches and 1,509 yards on the season. He didn’t just come out of nowhere prior to any article being written on Sunday.

As was posted earlier he was 33:1.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Vegas disagrees with you

According to Bovada LV, Brady currently is a heavy favorite at 5/8. Antonio Brown and Russell Wilson are next at 6/1

Who needs professional oddsmakers when you can read about what Joe Grocerystore said?