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Patriots Player Departure Jimmy Garoppolo traded to SF for 2018 2nd round draft pick

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You are joking right?
You sad it was reported by schefter and others that the patriots considered using the tag and you give me 2 articles with schefter saying he thinks he will stay BY SIGNING A CONTRACT with no mention of the tag and another speculation by some unknown guy at “the score” doing the math of whether they could? If that’s what you got then you just proved you are wrong that it was reported thatvthe patriots were considering using the tag.
Perhaps there was misunderstanding here: you appeared to express being unaware that the franchise tag was discussed by media as a solution to keeping both Brady and JG. Schefter was the prime source on this and I recall hearing/seeing him report that as an option the Patriots were considering in addition to contract negotiations (contract being the more realistic scenario) sans attribution to anyone in the organization specifically. I'm surprised you weren't aware of this but there you go. If you poke around you probably can find more discussion over the JG franchise option by Schefter and others.

Wouldn’t be up to him if they tag him.
Tagging someone who doesn't want to be there, especially a quarterback, could be counterproductive.

Could be because the moon is made of green cheese too.
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The backup is hoyer.
You missed the joke.

Omg he met with his player. How unusual.
It is unusual meeting individually with a player weekly into the season to discuss extending his contract.

I call BS. This is a lie. Show me the source or put a sock in it. Have some freaking integrity.
I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else here. The source was Bedard/Felger/Mazz discussion today on 98.5. Listen to the Bedard segment podcast if you don't believe me.

I'll close my discussion with you with this: I will listen to you about "integrity" when you come back with the apology you promised for your unfounded accusation that I wanted Brady gone in '18 with JG replacing him. And the next time you accuse me of lying will be the moment I place you on permanent ignore for being a hyperventilating little prick.
 
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I’ll be ecstatic if we end up with Sam darnold. People are going to sour him. But his struggles at time this year are due to bad play around him. The kid can is a stud
 
From Reiss's story on the trade:
Or perhaps if Kraft had let it be known to Belichick that he wanted Brady to finish his career in New England, no matter what, that would make some sense, too.

Wonder if that's just honest speculation on Reiss's part (most likely) or if he's relaying something he's been fed? He certainly has a history of using "speculation" to put out there things people have fed him.
 
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Perhaps there was misunderstanding here: you appeared to express being unaware that the franchise tag was discussed by media as a solution to keeping both Brady and JG. Schefter was the prime source on this and I recall hearing/seeing him report that as an option the Patriots were considering in addition to contract negotiations (contract being the more realistic scenario) sans attribution to anyone in the organization specifically. I'm surprised you weren't aware of this but there you go. If you poke around you probably can find more discussion over the JG franchise option by Schefter and others.
The misunderstanding is you said the patriots considered using the tag.
You criticized me for not knowing that. I asked for you to demonstrate it, and you gave me more attitude coupled with 3 links that do not say that.
There is zero evidence that the patriots had an intention or put any consideration into using the franchise tag. It would be better if you just admitted that instead of trying to downplay what you said and tell me I should go search for something to back it up.

Tagging someone who doesn't want to be there, especially a quarterback, could be counterproductive.
Why? He can’t do anything about it. If he has that much value to you to pay him 25 mill to sit on the bench you don’t trade him because he doesn’t want to wait to play.

As likely as your reason

You missed the joke.

It is unusual meeting individually with a player weekly into the season to discuss extending his contract.
Is it? Was it to discuss extending his contract? I didn’t read that part. Doesn’t jimmy have an agent?

I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else here. The source was Bedard/Felger/Mazz discussion today on 98.5. Listen to the Bedard segment podcast if you don't believe me.
Oh Jesus now you are using felger and jazz as your source. You know you don’t believe for a second that hey would have knowledge of decisions between kraft and belichick. It’s ludictous to even say.

I'll close my discussion with you with this: I will listen to you about "integrity" when you come back with the apology you promised for your unfounded accusation that I wanted Brady gone in '18 with JG replacing him.
I will go back but I’m pretty sure you were pushing that over the offseason, hoping he retires or they move on. If I am wrong I will say so.


And the next time you accuse me of lying will be the moment I place you on permanent ignore for being a hyperventilating little prick.
Do what you want but you should have a higher standard of what you post.
 
From Reiss's story on the trade:
Or perhaps if Kraft had let it be known to Belichick that he wanted Brady to finish his career in New England, no matter what, that would make some sense, too.

Wonder if that's just honest speculation on Reiss's part (most likely) or if he's relaying something he's been fed? He certainly has a history of using "speculation" to put out things people have fed him.

When that idiot golf announcer said it I dismissed it immediately .

When Reiss says it I take it with a bit of a, "hmmmm".

I need to see more smoke before I'm in on this rumor.
 
The misunderstanding is you said the patriots considered using the tag.
You criticized me for not knowing that. I asked for you to demonstrate it, and you gave me more attitude coupled with 3 links that do not say that.
There is zero evidence that the patriots had an intention or put any consideration into using the franchise tag. It would be better if you just admitted that instead of trying to downplay what you said and tell me I should go search for something to back it up.


Why? He can’t do anything about it. If he has that much value to you to pay him 25 mill to sit on the bench you don’t trade him because he doesn’t want to wait to play.


As likely as your reason


Is it? Was it to discuss extending his contract? I didn’t read that part. Doesn’t jimmy have an agent?


Oh Jesus now you are using felger and jazz as your source. You know you don’t believe for a second that hey would have knowledge of decisions between kraft and belichick. It’s ludictous to even say.


I will go back but I’m pretty sure you were pushing that over the offseason, hoping he retires or they move on. If I am wrong I will say so.



Do what you want but you should have a higher standard of what you post.
Good lord. Take a running jump, you imperious twat.
 
Wonder what this means for Kirk Cousins, I’d try to get to Denver if I were him. They have defense, they have weapons, great home field advantage, great ownership and management. Jags are a great spot too but their ownership and management has no track record of success yet. Arizona isn’t a terrible spot either. If Ben actually leaves (I think he’s just being a drama queen) then Pittsburgh is obviously a great spot.
 
SF radio host #1: "Do you think Garappolo is the Steve Young to Brady's Montana? The Rodgers to his Favre?"

SF radio host #2: "The Brock Osweiller to his Peyton Manning?"

Regards,
Chris
 
SF radio host #1: "Do you think Garappolo is the Steve Young to Brady's Montana? The Rodgers to his Favre?"

SF radio host #2: "The Brock Osweiller to his Peyton Manning?"

Regards,
Chris
Shouldn’t it be the Peyton Manning to his Brock Osweiler?
 
BOTTOM LINE

1)...Dorsett has been an adequate #4, and could be more later this year and next.
No he hasn't been, not by a damn sight.
 
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What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

Seriously? Release Tom Brady??? This is priceless from multiple angles. At least tell me you meant to say trade Tom Brady in the offseason. At least that would raise the possibilities of this theory from not happening in 100 million years..... to not happening in 99 million years. You don't think BB would run that one up the pole (communicate his insane plan to Kraft) before hanging on to JAG this past off-season??

Maybe last years draft consisted of no QB's the Pats felt could/would thrive in their system. Maybe 4 weeks into the season the scouts report there are 3 QB's in the college ranks that'll be available in the 2018 draft that have all the attributes the Pats look for in a QB. Maybe they confirm Jacoby didn't have what it takes to thrive in the Patriots system (holds onto the ball too long with little improvement in that area). They trade Jacoby. Maybe 7 weeks into the season the the scouts find another QB they feel would be a good fit. They do the math and feel they can obtain 1 of the 4 college QB's with a pick between 33 - 43. With the knowledge from the scouts, they reach out to select teams to get a pick that will help them get the new JAG (one of the hypothetical 4 college QB's).

The result -
They get a better pick than they used to draft JAG (remember, if they traded JAG last offseason, and they were not certain about Jacoby, a high pick would have to be used on a QB. If there were no QB's they liked in 2017 draft would you rather get a top 15 pick and spend it on a QB who has little chance in making the team or take the 33rd or 34th pick on a QB they feel has a great chance at being groomed to be the TB12 replacement)?

Summary:
They use the SF pick to take the next JAG.
Tom Brady plays 3 more seasons.
The future JAG gets the starting job after 3 years backing up and learning from the goat.

I'd like to think BB thinks 25 steps ahead of everyone and the theory above makes more sense that BB planning to release TB12 without talking to Kraft about it.
 
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I’ll be ecstatic if we end up with Sam darnold. People are going to sour him. But his struggles at time this year are due to bad play around him. The kid can is a stud
Last I heard a couple of weeks ago, they were claiming that he was staying next season.

I certainly agree with taking a QB with one of our first three picks, though. I think it’s a given.
 
How does a 2nd help NE this season?

They could not keep Jimmy, but why trade him away now? The whole thing makes no sense.
It may have been the same 2nd round pick if they applied the franchise tag, and it’s even possible that you’d only have had a couple of teams that were interested due to that kind of price tag. 25m dollars is a boatload of money for an unproven QB.

If they chose to let him walk in FA, they’d have received a 3rd round comp pick for 2019. At least now we can try and select the replacement with a guaranteed high round pick in a QB-heavy draft next spring.
 
I heard our 2nd round pick just tore its ACL, done for the year
 
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