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If he can contribute in multiple ST units this changes the equation in terms of space for him on the roster. Didn't read anything so far that he actually has any ST value. Curious.
Back to roster building business:
These were today's lineups (and more or less all 3 days) . from Bedard
1: Grissom - Guy - Brown - Flowers
- Defensive line rotation, from left to right:
2: Rivers - *Kilgo/Hamilton - Valentine - Ealy
3: Wise -Butler - Augusta - Kidder.
1: Solder - Thuney - Andrews - Mason - Cannon
- Offensive line:
2: Fleming - Croston - Karras - Douglas - Waddle
3: Garcia - Ferentz - King - Rich - McDermott
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* in the clips posted here there is mostly Hamilton beside VV
some reporters were high on Kilgo today though..
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BTW - whatever some may think of him . Bedard has best TC reports
i recommend it: Practice report 07.29.17
Hmm.. King was taking snaps at center? Intriguing. He played guard exclusively at Purdue though I guess he could have practiced at center as well..
Anyone else feel like Jimmy is slipping already? Pats homes don't want to hear it, but Brissett is going to be the guy soon. Jimmy will be finished in two years. Still betting on Brady and Jimmy to Cleveland and Brissett starts opening night.
even Rich had some snaps at 3 string C as posted earlier
Ferentz indeed seemed like LG on some videos posted
i think it was vice versa yesterday
Karras and Douglas exchange positions at times as well
very reasonable for backup IOLs
Really? Ive never been to one but would like to. I must be a loser at heart.Don't take this the wrong way, but if you attend a Pats training camp, you are a loser.
I have no idea what kind of player Rivers is going to ultimately be this year or next, but that shot of him in that drill reminded me of a post draft clip someone found that had a draft nerd breaking down his game against a D1 foe.
It reminded me of what I was most impressed with in about all the stuff we saw from his college days. He plays with a great pad level. The shot you posted showed the same thing. His arms extended, and his head below that of the blocker.
Clearly he is very raw and lacks experience against top flight talent. That being said...you can add strength, learn techniques, gain experience, all over time. BUT when a kid this tall seems to natually play with great pad level, as a coach, you have solved one of the bigger issues players on the DL need to learn before they can succeed.
It is going to take a while and I hope we understand the need to be patient with him; but I think we are going to really like the end product.
And for all the JJ fans . it was a big nickel day
from Bedard as well
- Patriots didn’t use much regular nickel today. Mostly big nickel, with a safety for a linebacker. So we didn’t get a good look at who might have the edge at third corner. Jonathan Jones has been there so far, but Eric Rowe has been charging hard.
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they are both locks in my book (barring injury or immoral offer of course)
Hey, give Slipping Jimmy a break. You never know when he may end up taking on a new identity.Anyone else feel like Jimmy is slipping already?
Observational leftovers:
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-- Edelman made a great snag of a sharp Brady pass that was just over the top of great coverage from LB Kyle Van Noy.
-- Mike Gillislee took the type of hit you could hear on another field, but didn’t flinch and scored a goal-line touchdown.
-- --As he did without pads, Gillislee once again showed the ability to catch the ball. So far it looks like the only running back who isn’t overly comfortable catching the ball is undrafted Iowa rookie LeShun Daniels, the biggest back in the group.
-- Kony Ealy was in full pads and did a bit more work in his second practice of the summer. Unfortunately that included one really tough 1-on-1 pass rush rep in which James O’Shaughnessy essentially pancaked the pass rusher to the ground. O’Shaughnessy is one of the sleeper positive performers early in camp. The trade addition has shown soft hands and impressive route running early on and looks ready to be more than just a special teams contributor as a possible third tight end.
--During some 1-on-1 work James White toasted Devin McCourty for an easy catch on an in-cut. Shortly thereafter O’Shaughnessy did the same to Duron Harmon.
-- Ted Karras: Was outstanding in one-on-ones and team drills. Right now he’s playing backup center to David Andrews, but if Karras keeps this up, don’t think it’s out of the question that he could make center a competitive position. He’s a lot bigger than Andrews, and that may be worth looking at for the coaches.
Karras put Ealy on the ground during a pass play. But Ealy recovered to team with Van Noy to stop Rex Burkhead on the goal line.
-- Andrews had a tough time with the bull rushes from Valentine, and then Brown.
-- Shaq Mason stood out for his technique in team drills. He seems to have made some improvements in the offseason.
-- OT Cam Fleming: Did not show well in one-on-ones. He was beaten by speed and power.
--The group of linemen working on center-exchanges with the quarterbacks in pre-practice work included David Andrews, Joe Thuney, Ted Karras, Cole Croston, James Ferentz, Jamil Douglas and Jason King.
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-- David Harris delivered some thunderous hits on Saturday. The 11-year veteran looks like he wants to prove he still has a lot left in the tank. He is taking many of the first-team reps alongside Kyle Van Noy
-- David Harris, Shea McClellin, and Kyle Van Noy were the team's linebackers in its base 4-3 defense on Saturday.
-- DE Kony Ealy: Was admonished by coaches for doing the wrong thing on one play, and was beaten twice by Marcus Cannon in one-on-ones.
-- Wise had a great inside move to pressure the QB in red-zone work.
-- Gilmore and Butler are set as the top two cornerbacks, and Jonathan Jones looks like he’s getting first crack at winning the slot cornerback position. Eric Rowe has looked good so far, but he’s a bit big for the slot at 6 feet 1 inch and 205 pounds and might be better suited as a depth piece on the outside.
-- Kenny Moore continues to stand out: The UDFA CB out of a Division II school continues to make plays on the field. Garoppolo tried to hit a pass down the middle that was tipped and intercepted by Moore. Moore isn’t very big at 5’9” 179 and will likely have to win a job as a special teamer and slot corner, but if he continues to make plays, he may find himself on a roster.
-- Jordan Richards matched up on UDFA TE Jacob Hollister, he perfectly read an out route and made the Catch of the Day with a toe-dragging interception along the sideline. Richards was the first player to intercept Tom Brady in camp.
-- The Patriots seem intent on getting Cyrus Jones as many punt return reps as possible. In addition to normal punt unit drills, Jones spends time toward the end of each practice catching punts from Ryan Allen.
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--During punt work Matthew Slater and Coleman took the first reps at gunner. Nate Ebner as the personal protector. Rex Burkhead also took reps in front of Allen.
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-- Both Derek Rivers and Deatrich Wise Jr., the team’s defensive end draft picks, had to do laps during the 1-on-1 pass rush drills. Wise Jr. did another lap later, and both times the rookie practically sprinted, easily the fastest penalty lap in recent memory.
-- Flowers and Ealy did extra work with large blocking dummies together after practice.
Good luck covering Edleman, Gronk and Cooks with a RB that can catch ... And if Gillislee can provide that and the threat that type of back brings, this offense will taken to another level.
I love our stable and really hope we prioritize all the talent in the big picture.
We play a lot of teams that give big #'s to that position. Overall TD's to the RB position. NO 21 TD's, Atlanta 16, Pitt 18, Buffalo 18, TB 14, Oak 16, SD 19.
I have a strong feeling Mason will be a top tier G by seasons end.
OK, I'm calling it pointlessly early:
Barring injury, the interior OL roster is set at Andrews, Douglas, Karras, Mason and Thuney.
Me too....
Anyone else feel like Jimmy is slipping already? Pats homers don't want to hear it, but Brissett is going to be the guy soon. Jimmy will be finished in two years. Still betting on Brady and Jimmy to Cleveland and Brissett starts opening night.
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