When Did SMY Turn Into Such a Bitter Person?

[Wheelman]

@shmessy Ian keeps trolling Volin on the twitter feed...

 

[captain stone]

Seriously, Shalise, what happened to you? You used to be one of my favorite reporters. I hope everything is OK, but you have turned into one very bitter person. For whatever reason, Ian still keeps you on the twitter feed even though only ~10% of your tweets are sports related anymore. And, while I share most of your political viewpoints, just cluck-clucking about them incessantly doesn't accomplish anything. Maybe it's time to become an activist. Whatever.

In the meantime - re: the ridiculous and clueless answer to the equally ridiculous and clueless Kalli..........

Alan Branch, Nate Ebner, Devin McCourty, Donta Hightower, Rob Ninkovich, Marcus Cannon, Dion Lewis and countless others say "hi".

Kalli @Kalli_TFF
@shalisemyoung It's just a lesson to every other player that's the Pats won't give you a fair shake when you outperform your contract.

shalise manza young

?@shalisemyoung
@Kalli_TFF Agreed.

4:27 PM - 27 Mar 2017

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Never was a fan since 2009 when she was adalius' mouth piece. She's a simple mind who doesn't understand the business side of the game and makes a stink if her favorites don't get paid. And yes she picks favorites about as far from impartial as you can get.

Was about to post a similar answer to Deflate's before I saw his, but that's exactly when it started, right after Bill correctly ****canned all of her bruthas following the diastrous 2009 season.

 

[borg]

Who knew she hasn't worked for the Globe in 2 years? Not me

From linkedin.com.....
Award-winning journalist who writes about the NFL for Yahoo after covering the New England Patriots for over nine seasons: four with The Providence Journal and five-plus for The Boston Globe.

Sports journalism instructor at Emerson College and also assistant coach, varsity track and field at Winsor School for 2015; assistant coach 2008-2014.

Correct me if I'm wrong....wasn't it just a couple years ago she butchered a story/tweet regarding the Patriots? Was her Globe departure indirectly related?

 

[Deflatemyballs]

Who knew she hasn't worked for the Globe in 2 years? Not me

From linkedin.com.....
Award-winning journalist who writes about the NFL for Yahoo after covering the New England Patriots for over nine seasons: four with The Providence Journal and five-plus for The Boston Globe.

Sports journalism instructor at Emerson College and also assistant coach, varsity track and field at Winsor School for 2015; assistant coach 2008-2014.

Correct me if I'm wrong....wasn't it just a couple years ago she butchered a story/tweet regarding the Patriots? Was her Globe departure indirectly related?

I remember she announced she had a job with yahoo on writing in their new football section. If she was ****canned it was done on the down low.

 

[DarrylS]

SMZ and Tom Curran have their roots in the Providence Journal and then they grew up..

I follow SMZ on twitter and she mixes politics and sports, so she takes a lot of hits and sometimes her responses do not seem well thought out.. I am baffled about her stand on MB she should know how the Patriots do business by now. MB is not some sort of victim here, the CBA was agreed to by the players and owners..

 

[Thelonious]

Liberals share the Romantic view that simple and pure is best, that we really can learn everything we need to know in kindergarten, as one of their beloved gospels put it. A few simple ideas suffice for them. Complexity, nuance, paradox, ambiguity: the stuff of actual human experience, honestly assimilated, are not to be countenanced.

This is why liberals are so boring: they are determinedly and predictably uninteresting. When they get angry, as they inevitably do when reality refuses to conform to their carefully cultivated delusions, they do not even have the charm of the intellectual toddlers they aspire to be.

The result is the sort of frankly tedious phenomenon under discussion here. She is a bore, as one would expect. She's been working on it for years, no doubt, in an environment, The Globe, which is very supportive of those aspire to a condition of sniveling nullity.

 

[Miguel]

Disclaimer - Shalise has coached my niece in cross-country. She and I are Facebook friends because of that.

Shalise left the Globe to go to Yahoo to work at home. She has really young children and wanted to work at home. Her job at Yahoo allows her to do that.

I happen to agree with Shalise on her stance with Butler. Her point being that it has not been a requirement for Patriots players to have to play out their entire rookie deal or RFA tender in order to get a second deal with the Patriots. It is a choice made by the Patriots front office

Recent examples
2016 - None
2015 - Brandon Bolden was about to be a RFA and was extended in January. In July of 2015 Ryan Allen was extended after two years in the NFL. Allen like Butler was an UDFA.
2014 - In December 2014 Marcus Cannon was extended during the 2014 season. Was made one of the higher paid right-tackles in the NFL as a backup.
2013- None
2012- Both Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez were extended after two years in the NFL. Gronk is a teammate of Butler's. Aaron is infamous.
2011 - Kyle Arrington was extended after two years in the NFL. Played with Butler with 2014.
2009 - Dan Connolly was extended during his 3rd year in the NFL. Played with Butler in 2014.

Malcolm knew that several of his teammates have been extended before completing four years in the NFL. Now you do

 

[Miguel]

BTW, I do not consider myself a bitter person.

 

[Thelonious]

Disclaimer - Shalise has coached my niece in cross-country. She and I are Facebook friends because of that.

Shalise left the Globe to go to Yahoo to work at home. She has really young children and wanted to work at home. Her job at Yahoo allows her to do that.

I happen to agree with Shalise on her stance with Butler. Her point being that it has not been a requirement for Patriots players to have to play out their entire rookie deal or RFA tender in order to get a second deal with the Patriots. It is a choice made by the Patriots front office

Recent examples
2016 - None
2015 - Brandon Bolden was about to be a RFA and was extended in January. In July of 2015 Ryan Allen was extended after two years in the NFL. Allen like Butler was an UDFA.
2014 - In December 2014 Marcus Cannon was extended during the 2014 season. Was made one of the higher paid right-tackles in the NFL as a backup.
2013- None
2012- Both Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez were extended after two years in the NFL. Gronk is a teammate of Butler's. Aaron is infamous.
2011 - Kyle Arrington was extended after two years in the NFL. Played with Butler with 2014.
2009 - Dan Connolly was extended during his 3rd year in the NFL. Played with Butler in 2014.

Malcolm knew that several of his teammates have been extended before completing four years in the NFL. Now you do

Quite a lot of work to contrive a simplistic strawman. No one has maintained that there has ever been such a "requirement." There was a choice made regarding Butler, one with which you evidently disagree, but let's not pretend that the Pats' having made a decision with which you disagree constitutes a dire moral transgression. Please stop waving your silly little flag, will you?

 

[moosekill]

Miguel first off thanks for the incredible work you do here!

Secondly, I don't understand your post. By all accounts, the Patriots made an offer to MB last year and he rejected it. I didn't see anywhere that the Patriots wouldn't extend players, just that when extending players, the Patriots take into account their current contractual obligation. MB gets paid $3.9 million this coming year. Any contract the Patriots agree to will take that into account when signing him to a longer term contract.

 

[archstanton543]

Who cares? With rare exception, sports reporters are one step up on the evolutionary scale from pond scum.

 

[Galeb]

Liberals share the Romantic view that simple and pure is best, that we really can learn everything we need to know in kindergarten, as one of their beloved gospels put it. A few simple ideas suffice for them. Complexity, nuance, paradox, ambiguity: the stuff of actual human experience, honestly assimilated, are not to be countenanced.

This is why liberals are so boring: they are determinedly and predictably uninteresting. When they get angry, as they inevitably do when reality refuses to conform to their carefully cultivated delusions, they do not even have the charm of the intellectual toddlers they aspire to be.

The result is the sort of frankly tedious phenomenon under discussion here. She is a bore, as one would expect. She's been working on it for years, no doubt, in an environment, The Globe, which is very supportive of those aspire to a condition of sniveling nullity.

Well played. Until this post, I actually believed you were somewhat sincere in what you post. You, sir, are an excellent and entertaining troll.

 

[alvinnf]

Liberals share the Romantic view that simple and pure is best, that we really can learn everything we need to know in kindergarten, as one of their beloved gospels put it. A few simple ideas suffice for them. Complexity, nuance, paradox, ambiguity: the stuff of actual human experience, honestly assimilated, are not to be countenanced.

This is why liberals are so boring: they are determinedly and predictably uninteresting. When they get angry, as they inevitably do when reality refuses to conform to their carefully cultivated delusions, they do not even have the charm of the intellectual toddlers they aspire to be.

The result is the sort of frankly tedious phenomenon under discussion here. She is a bore, as one would expect. She's been working on it for years, no doubt, in an environment, The Globe, which is very supportive of those aspire to a condition of sniveling nullity.

What a truly fantastic post!

 

[Rob0729]

It seems when a lot of local writers go national, they tend to get much much more critical of the Pats.

 

[MagicMarker]

Miguel first off thanks for the incredible work you do here!

Secondly, I don't understand your post. By all accounts, the Patriots made an offer to MB last year and he rejected it. I didn't see anywhere that the Patriots wouldn't extend players, just that when extending players, the Patriots take into account their current contractual obligation. MB gets paid $3.9 million this coming year. Any contract the Patriots agree to will take that into account when signing him to a longer term contract.

That seems to be common. I live in Seattle and when the Seahawks extended Russell Wilson, they basically added four years and $87 million to his contract. He got some of it right away in a signing bonus, but they didn't tear up the last year.

The Patriots have a price and Malcolm Butler has a price. If they can't agree, Malcolm can play out his contract and go elsewhere. The old saying is you don't get what you deserve, you get what you (in this case, the "you" is the NFLPA) negotiate.

 

[zydecochris]

Liberals share the Romantic view that simple and pure is best, that we really can learn everything we need to know in kindergarten, as one of their beloved gospels put it. A few simple ideas suffice for them. Complexity, nuance, paradox, ambiguity: the stuff of actual human experience, honestly assimilated, are not to be countenanced.

This is why liberals are so boring: they are determinedly and predictably uninteresting. When they get angry, as they inevitably do when reality refuses to conform to their carefully cultivated delusions, they do not even have the charm of the intellectual toddlers they aspire to be.

The result is the sort of frankly tedious phenomenon under discussion here. She is a bore, as one would expect. She's been working on it for years, no doubt, in an environment, The Globe, which is very supportive of those aspire to a condition of sniveling nullity.

At last, a complex and nuanced post, although paradoxically somewhat ambiguous, my attempts to honestly assimilate it have really put me out of countenance.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Disclaimer - Shalise has coached my niece in cross-country. She and I are Facebook friends because of that.

Shalise left the Globe to go to Yahoo to work at home. She has really young children and wanted to work at home. Her job at Yahoo allows her to do that.

I happen to agree with Shalise on her stance with Butler. Her point being that it has not been a requirement for Patriots players to have to play out their entire rookie deal or RFA tender in order to get a second deal with the Patriots. It is a choice made by the Patriots front office

Recent examples
2016 - None
2015 - Brandon Bolden was about to be a RFA and was extended in January. In July of 2015 Ryan Allen was extended after two years in the NFL. Allen like Butler was an UDFA.
2014 - In December 2014 Marcus Cannon was extended during the 2014 season. Was made one of the higher paid right-tackles in the NFL as a backup.
2013- None
2012- Both Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez were extended after two years in the NFL. Gronk is a teammate of Butler's. Aaron is infamous.
2011 - Kyle Arrington was extended after two years in the NFL. Played with Butler with 2014.
2009 - Dan Connolly was extended during his 3rd year in the NFL. Played with Butler in 2014.

Malcolm knew that several of his teammates have been extended before completing four years in the NFL. Now you do

The point was not whether or not the Patriots would extend players before they reached UFA status, it was what they would take into account when they made that offer.

I read years ago that the Patriots always offered salaries taking into account the player's status and eligibility for pay i.e. if you could earn 2 million under the collective bargaining agreement and then earn 8 million the next year as a fee agent, they'd offer you a 10 million, two-year contract. Famously, they refused to budge on Deion Branch's negotiated fifth year salary and ended up trading him to Seattle. We also know that Gronk's extension took into account his limited salary earning years before he became an UFA.

It seems to me that the Patriots have treated Butler the exact same way they treated every player before him that they were interested in extending. They offered him a salary based on his earning potential under the collective bargaining agreement. I certainly haven't seen any evidence that this is not the case - but I'd be happy to be proved wrong if such is the case.

 

[goheels22002]

Butler isn't a UFA...people like her need to stop saying dumb **** like that.

I agree with you. SMY understands that the Patriots have the best depth in the NFL because they don't overpay, and they don't say "How high?" when an RFA says, "Jump." She did an interview about the time Matt Cassell was traded that shows she knows what's what in New England:
Interview: Shalise Manza Young of The Providence Journal

 

[Miguel]

Miguel first off thanks for the incredible work you do here! \

I don't understand your post.

I have seen tweets/posts that have said that Patriots players have to wait for 4 years. I do not have the time to research them and to link to them. Sorry.

 

[Thelonious]

Well played. Until this post, I actually believed you were somewhat sincere in what you post. You, sir, are an excellent and entertaining troll.

I am entirely sincere. And, true to form, this is just the sort of effete and predictable rejoinder one would expect.