Gilmore for Butler but who takes Ryan's reps?

[luuked]

Flowers performed really well before his season ending injury. Jones did nothing well and didn't get much playing time while being healthy all year. On the bright side, he can't do any worse than last year.

He played encouraging in his few snaps at CB. People just let his drops as a returner taint the entire picture of him.

 

[luuked]

The Rowester! Not sure why everybody hates him so much I mean geesh give him a chance. He had a good season when he played. Had an excellent super bowl as well. He was primarily on Julio Jones (Ryan was too at times) and Julio only had 4 catches and they were all great contested plays. Rowe could be pretty good. Cyrus will have a chance to compete for the slot w/ Coleman & J. Jones & maybe some future addition.

Plus, Butler is not gone yet. Yes, it is looking like he is likely to go, but say for instance the Saints dont give him what he wants and he realizes the Patriots offer wasnt too shabby all along and resigns. Or maybe the Saints and Patriots dont agree on compensation and Bill decides its best to let Butler play out his deal. Who knows.

Eric Rowe will be our number 2 corner

It's like people don't watch football games. Rowe is not an inside cornerback. His skill set doesn't translate at all to that role and thus he will not be able to replace Ryan. But he doesn't have to because that falls on Cyrus Jones.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

It's like people don't watch football games. Rowe is not an inside cornerback. His skill set doesn't translate at all to that role and thus he will not be able to replace Ryan. But he doesn't have to because that falls on Cyrus Jones.

I know Rowe is not an inside corner. No one said he was. I said he would be our number 2 outside corner. End of story.

 

[Kontradiction]

I kind of feel bad for him. It really doesn't seem like it's hit him yet that, as a CB1, he's pretty much toast at this point since his physical skills are declining. That he's still expecting to get paid like he has in the past is a riot. Revis has entered the time in his career where the best he'll likely do is a prove it deal. Prove it that you'll come to TC in shape and committed and your deal will have escalators built in, but the time of a team backing up the Brinks truck is over.

 

[maineman209]

The ordinal designations for CBs (#1, #2, #3), as in some kind of hierarchy of talent/skill level, seem pretty antiquated to me.

These days, most WRs line up all over the place dictating all sorts of adjustable coverages.

Some CBs have elite ability to play LCB (the old-time "#1 CB" role) but can't play RCB and or cover the slot worth a damn. And yet, all three roles are equally crucial to a consistently successful pass defense, and each role requires a somewhat different skill sets and type of athleticism.

So, a guy who primarily plays RCB isn't there instead of at LCB because he's only the "second best" CB on the field. It's because he's the best CB on the field for that spot. And a guy who primarily plays the slot isn't necessarily relegated to that role because he's "not as good as" the guys who primarily cover the boundaries. Many CBs who excel at boundary coverage simply can't cover the slot very well.

The more role versatility a CB has (or any DB, for that matter), the more useful/valuable they are since they're more able to help expand coverage options. It's entirely possible that, although Butler excels at LCB, Gilmore and Rowe may have more role versatility.

 

[SacPete1]

I'm very curious about this as well and although Cyrus seems like a good fit for the slot and would likely be the lead guy if they played today, I'm sure they will be adding someone who can play the slot if not for anything else other than depth and competition. And they will need to be able to play special teams.

 

[Uptown]

I say BB brushes the crap off of Revis.
He has a bounce back year says all the right things and predict we fall in love with him again.

That'd be nice. With an in-shape/ motivated Revis, this secondary would be close to, if not better than both the L.O.B & the 2015 Denver secondary.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Rowe was our #2 outside corner most of last year. He will be again in all likelihood. Thus, my question around who replaces Ryan who played mostly INSIDE.

 

[Edelmania]

It's like people don't watch football games. Rowe is not an inside cornerback. His skill set doesn't translate at all to that role and thus he will not be able to replace Ryan. But he doesn't have to because that falls on Cyrus Jones.

Its like people dont read posts. I said Cyrus Jones would be competing for the slot.

 

[VJCPatriot]

I'm still holding out hope that Butler is back. He still has a place in my heart for that very special play sealing the Superbowl win vs the Seahawks. He has also played at #1 CB level the past 3 years.

If he wants Gilmore money, I say give it to him. It would be the first time the Pats invested that much into 2 CBs, but this may be the year to do it!

Pats have been pushing in the chips - resigned Hightower check, added a high profile CB check, traded for a super talented WR check. Why not go for one more Chip and retain Butler?

 

[luuked]

Its like people dont read posts. I said Cyrus Jones would be competing for the slot.

Read the ****ing thread title then the first few words in the post I quoted. Can't help it if you can't formulate a consistent paragraph but post a disjointed wall of text saying that Rowe will replace Ryan even though they are essentially playing two different positions. Jesus..

 

[Edelmania]

Read the ****ing thread title then the first few words in the post I quoted. Can't help it if you can't formulate a consistent paragraph but post a disjointed wall of text saying that Rowe will replace Ryan even though they are essentially playing two different positions. Jesus..

It was broken into 2 paragraphs. Read the posts your quoting before accusing the posters of not watching football games.

Ryan doesnt just play the slot. Often times they do play the same position at outside corner. I was simply saying Rowe would be the #2 across from Gilmore. The rest of my post went on to say C. Jones, J. Jones, & J. Coleman would be competing for the slot with maybe another addition.

 

[Froob]

Why would you dismiss a second round corner because he fumbled when returning punts?

I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be concerned if Cyrus intercepted a pass.

 

[luuked]

Ryan doesnt just play the slot. Often times they do play the same position at outside corner. I was simply saying Rowe would be the #2 across from Gilmore. The rest of my post went on to say C. Jones, J. Jones, & J. Coleman would be competing for the slot with maybe another addition.

?????????????????

You have either not watched any games in the last few years or you are trolling. Ryan was _the_ inside cornerback and pretty good at that. Was he exclusively there ? No, because as most players on the roster he was versatile enough to play outside if the scheme called for it or as part of the underneath coverage against certain receivers when DMac had everything over the top. But his strongest asset was being pretty reliable inside due to his brilliant tackling, good inside coverage, physical play and great timing on blitzes.

Seriously what were you watching the last 2 years ?

 

[Mack Herron]

So that begs the question, who takes Ryan's snaps? Thoughts?

 

[Edelmania]

?????????????????

You have either not watched any games in the last few years or you are trolling. Ryan was _the_ inside cornerback and pretty good at that. Was he exclusively there ? No, because as most players on the roster he was versatile enough to play outside if the scheme called for it or as part of the underneath coverage against certain receivers when DMac had everything over the top. But his strongest asset was being pretty reliable inside due to his brilliant tackling, good inside coverage, physical play and great timing on blitzes.

Seriously what were you watching the last 2 years ?

Not disputing that Ryan played a lot of inside corner. But he also played outside a lot especially when there where only 2 corners on the field. Butler had plenty of snaps in the slot too. Rowe will likely be replacing Ryans spot on the depth chart. Plus they could be changing schemes.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I hope Jones is ready to get his feet wet this year...if Butler leaves...It's Gilmore, Rowe, Coleman, Jones.

Very very deep draft at CB as well however

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

I wouldn't mind mevis back if he comes back in shape under 200. Assuming butler leaves. He wants to play under 6 million so that the jests will pay him that lol as well.

 

[ATippett56]

Who takes Ryan's reps?

www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/CB

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

Who takes Ryan's reps?

www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/CB

Didn't know the raiders acquired jared cook. Loaded on offense. I hate giving up butler for the simple fact that we will face some big offenses in 2017.