Logan Ryan signs with Titans

[FreeTedWilliams]

The 10 million annual salary should cancel out the Gilmore signing in the comp pick formula. Now hope that someone gives Bennett big money.

 

[everlong]

It's really weird the number of parallels between the first dynasty and second. Hopefully Ryan has better luck than David Givens did with the Titans.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Way to go Logan big money and beautiful city in Nashville.

I love Nashville.

 

[PatsBoy12]

I love Nashville.

I've always wanted to visit.

 

[PatsBoy12]

He strikes me as a guy who might be return to the Pats a la Patrick Chung

Nah, I don't think so. Chung came back because Philly was a miserable experience and he struggled mightily. No one was really interested. I think it will be worlds different with Ryan.

 

[patsfan7983]

Isn't his deal less money than we pay Gilmore the next couple seasons? Why didn't we keep Ryan and spend some cash on Butlers long term contract?

 

[Huckleberry1]

So somebody disagrees with your opinion and your response is to viciously attack them in a tantrum. It's obvious which of you is less likely to have ever had "friends or any semblance of a relationship with anyone". There is definitely something wrong with you.

Actually he's responding to the fact that all Marqui does is sh.t on every player on the Patriots and every decision they make. I have never once seen him happy about anything, including huge wins, but he shows up to crap on every move they make with the roster. He's a troll.

 

[Tony2046]

I like that he is a dog lover. And I like his pick vs Houston.

Yep. And his pick against Sanders was pretty sweet too.

 

[Kontradiction]

Out of all the FA's the Pats had in-house, he was the one that was the most easily replaceable. He struggled on the outside, was decent as the nickel corner, and was a solid tackler. Belichick has never shown that he's incapable of replacing that role on the team. I wish him luck in the future unless it's against the Pats, but he isn't irreplaceable. The only question is whether or not his replacement is already on the roster.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I've always wanted to visit.

I'm not even a country music guy (wife is but I'm OK with it) and it's a great time.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Isn't his deal less money than we pay Gilmore the next couple seasons? Why didn't we keep Ryan and spend some cash on Butlers long term contract?

Because BB thinks Gilmore is much better than Ryan and better than Malcolm.

He now has two CB1s and worst case he trades one for a high-impact player or more picks.

 

[PatsBoy12]

I'm not even a country music guy (wife is but I'm OK with it) and it's a great time.

I'm not either. Lol. There's just an allure with that place, country music can or not, I guess.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Gonna miss him. Especially the times when he shut down Demaryius Thomas...


Good tackler and improved every year. Titans secondary with JMAC is gonna be good. Good luck!

OT: Pictures like this one make me wish I went into sports photography.

 

[maineman209]

I haven't really thought of cornerbacks in terms of #1, #2 and #3 (as some sort of "proficiency/importance ranking") in a long time. With the Nickel being the default package now, teams need three good corners, each with a different - but equally critical - primary role ...
- Left boundary
- Right boundary (which not all "good" corners can manage well)
- Slot
... and all of them need to be able to "play the field" and/or trade roles, and/or to follow specific receivers on occasion.

I thought Ryan had become a very good slot guy who could also cover the right boundary fairly well. While not elite there, Ryan still might be an upgrade at RCB for a lot of teams (IDK how the Titans are planning on using him).

Ryan was very sharp and disciplined about edge-contain against the run, and a pretty good tackler [EDIT: I forgot - Ryan was also the Pats' leading tackler in 2016 with 74 solo and 18 assists.]. He was also known for his studiousness and work ethic. I don't know of a lot of guys in the league who are significantly better at the slot role than Ryan was, at least in 2016, and $10m APY doesn't seem like an exorbitant amount to pay to keep him (in this market, anyway).

Given the relatively low cost and the relatively large amount of cap space that the Pats have, it seems unlikely to me that BB would have allowed Ryan to walk unless he thinks he has an adequate replacement already on the roster.

So, the possibilities for 2017 for covering slot duties (where significant agility seems to be required) include ...

Coleman: 5110/190 ... 3.98 shuttle ... 6.61 3cone
- played 22.7 defensive snaps per game in 10 games active (only 6.5 on ST)
Cy Jones: 5090/200 ... 4.21 ... 6.71
- 14.7 defensive snaps/GA in 1o games active (5.1 ST)
Jon Jones: 5100/190 ... 4.25 ... 7.25
- only 4.0 defensive snaps/game in 16 games (19.2 ST, 4th highest on team)

For reference ...

Rowe: 6010/205 ... 3.97 ... 6.70
- at least appears to have the chops to occasionally drop down to cover a big receiver out of the slot, but someone else would then need to be able to handle the right boundary for those plays.
Butler: 5096/190 ... 4.27 ... 7.20
Ryan: 5110/191 ... 4.06 ... 6.69

 

[Bruins29]

So somebody disagrees with your opinion and your response is to viciously attack them in a tantrum. It's obvious which of you is less likely to have ever had "friends or any semblance of a relationship with anyone". There is definitely something wrong with you.

Like to I need to explain what is going to to a nobody like you.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Yep. And his pick against Sanders was pretty sweet too.

He always had some great big time picks. Will be missed by me anyways

 

[RobertWeathers]

I haven't really thought of cornerbacks in terms of #1, #2 and #3 (as some sort of "proficiency/importance ranking") in a long time. With the Nickel being the default package now, teams need three good corners, each with a different - but equally critical - primary role ...
- Left boundary
- Right boundary (which not all "good" corners can manage well)
- Slot
... and all of them need to be able to "play the field" and/or trade roles, and/or to follow specific receivers on occasion.

I thought Ryan had become a very good slot guy who could also cover the right boundary fairly well. While not elite there, Ryan still might be an upgrade at RCB for a lot of teams (IDK how the Titans are planning on using him).

Ryan was very sharp and disciplined about edge-contain against the run, and a pretty good tackler [EDIT: I forgot - Ryan was also the Pats' leading tackler in 2016 with 74 solo and 18 assists.]. He was also known for his studiousness and work ethic. I don't know of a lot of guys in the league who are significantly better at the slot role than Ryan was, at least in 2016, and $10m APY doesn't seem like an exorbitant amount to pay to keep him (in this market, anyway).

Given the relatively low cost and the relatively large amount of cap space that the Pats have, it seems unlikely to me that BB would have allowed Ryan to walk unless he thinks he has an adequate replacement already on the roster.

So, the possibilities for 2017 for covering slot duties (where significant agility seems to be required) include ...

Coleman: 5110/190 ... 3.98 shuttle ... 6.61 3cone
- played 22.7 defensive snaps per game in 10 games active (only 6.5 on ST)
Cy Jones: 5090/200 ... 4.21 ... 6.71
- 14.7 defensive snaps/GA in 1o games active (5.1 ST)
Jon Jones: 5100/190 ... 4.25 ... 7.25
- only 4.0 defensive snaps/game in 16 games (19.2 ST, 4th highest on team)

For reference ...

Rowe: 6010/205 ... 3.97 ... 6.70
- at least appears to have the chops to occasionally drop down to cover a big receiver out of the slot, but someone else would then need to be able to handle the right boundary for those plays.
Butler: 5096/190 ... 4.27 ... 7.20
Ryan: 5110/191 ... 4.06 ... 6.69

Between now and August they'll sign and draft 5-10 more DBs .

It's when they start cutting deals with couch potatoes in November is when I get nervous

 

[PatsBoy12]

Like to I need to explain what is going to to a nobody like you.

Ouch. That wasn't directed at me and I still felt it.

 

[long distance]

 

[PatsBoy12]

Yeah, I've said all the same stuff.