NFL Free Agency Thread

[adam941]

Not trying to be thick here, but how do you structure a contract to void the last 2 years if there apparently aren't any problems in the first year? Either he's released by next Feb and not on the team or he's on the team next Feb and it's just a one year contract. What advantage does that give anyone? Kind of feels like heads I win, tails you lose.

 

[JMC00]

Not trying to be thick here, but how do you structure a contract to void the last 2 years if there apparently aren't any problems in the first year? Either he's released by next Feb and not on the team or he's on the team next Feb and it's just a one year contract. What advantage does that give anyone? Kind of feels like heads I win, tails you lose.

Cap purposes. Let's them spread the signing bonus over 3 years

 

[chasa]

with hoyer being available, do you trade jimmyG to the broncos for #32, and sign hoyer for vet minimum?

 

[VectorPrime]

with hoyer being available, do you trade jimmyG to the broncos for #32, and sign hoyer for vet minimum?

This would be an awful decision in so many ways. Not only would you make a currently reeling conference rival strong again but there is a real chance that Brady misses the first 4 games of the season and I'd sure as hell rather have Jimmy than Hoyer.

 

[Ross12]

with hoyer being available, do you trade jimmyG to the broncos for #32, and sign hoyer for vet minimum?

Trade him for pick #32 and tell him to sign a 4 year deal but make sure he throws lots of picks against the Pats. Just aim right for the DB's Jimmy. Then when your contract is up we will sign you back here to take over for Brady. Sound good?

 

[Love The Drake]

No would never trade a possible good to great QB to the Donkeys even for 2 1sts

 

[Huckleberry1]

There isn't a player available at the end of the first worth trading Garrapolo for, and I wouldn't trade him in the AFC let alone to the Broncos.

 

[Galeb]

There isn't a player available at the end of the first worth trading Garrapolo for, and I wouldn't trade him in the AFC let alone to the Broncos.

That really depends on the Pats draft board. Either way, it would be hilarious if the Pats traded for 32, then traded 32 for a 1st and a 4th next year just to eff with everyone.

 

[jimnance]

with hoyer being available, do you trade jimmyG to the broncos for #32, and sign hoyer for vet minimum?

Pats cant draft in the 1st round. if they traded for #32, it would be confiscated. My understanding of goodells screw job is the only way pats could draft in 1st round is if somehow they were able to trade up and get 2 1st round picks, then the higher one gets confiscated and they get to keep the lower one. That is beyond ridiculous. They can trade up to #33-thats as high as they can go.

 

[JMC00]

Pats cant draft in the 1st round. if they traded for #32, it would be confiscated. My understanding of goodells screw job is the only way pats could draft in 1st round is if somehow they were able to trade up and get 2 1st round picks, then the higher one gets confiscated and they get to keep the lower one. That is beyond ridiculous. They can trade up to #33-thats as high as they can go.

Well that's complete wrong. No clue where you got that from.

The highest pick they could have if they traded into the 1st is #29..

 

[jimnance]

Well that's complete wrong. No clue where you got that from.

The highest pick they could have if they traded into the 1st is #29..

ok i must be completely misunderstanding how the confiscated 1st rounder goes. ive read several explanations but they all seem a little convoluted. i thought any 1st rounder we traded up for would be confiscated. are you saying that as long as the pick comes after our original slot, we keep it? im actually a fairly intelligent human being, but i guess i dont understand how this works. or, the fact that the pick was stolen has me so steamed that my mind just goes berserk whenever anything related to deflategate comes up.(its why ive never posted, not even once, on anything to do with deflategate-it just gets me too pissed off). But yeah, i would appreciate enlightment on this subject.

 

[The Gr8est]

ok i must be completely misunderstanding how the confiscated 1st rounder goes. ive read several explanations but they all seem a little convoluted. i thought any 1st rounder we traded up for would be confiscated. are you saying that as long as the pick comes after our original slot, we keep it? im actually a fairly intelligent human being, but i guess i dont understand how this works. or, the fact that the pick was stolen has me so steamed that my mind just goes berserk whenever anything related to deflategate comes up.(its why ive never posted, not even once, on anything to do with deflategate-it just gets me too pissed off). But yeah, i would appreciate enlightment on this subject.

The Pats own 1st round pick was stolen. If they try and get around the punishment by trading for a higher pick than their own 1st round pick, then the higher pick gets stolen, but only one 1st round pick gets confiscated, so they can trade into the 1st round at picks 29-32 and keep the pick.

The vindictiveness of this clause really shows how this was all about weakening the Pats and not punishing them.

 

[jimnance]

The Pats own 1st round pick was stolen. If they try and get around the punishment by trading for a higher pick than their own 1st round pick, then the higher pick gets stolen, but only one 1st round pick gets confiscated, so they can trade into the 1st round at picks 29-32 and keep the pick.

The vindictiveness of this clause really shows how this was all about weakening the Pats and not punishing them.

thanks man. that was a better explanation than i read from either reiss or curran, and i like both those guys. well, looks like '16 will be another FU tour. Btw, i dig the avatar. Ali WAS the greatest. this coming from a guy whose mom grew up with rocky marciano. ali would have destroyed tyson.

 

[supafly]

ok i must be completely misunderstanding how the confiscated 1st rounder goes. ive read several explanations but they all seem a little convoluted. i thought any 1st rounder we traded up for would be confiscated. are you saying that as long as the pick comes after our original slot, we keep it? im actually a fairly intelligent human being, but i guess i dont understand how this works. or, the fact that the pick was stolen has me so steamed that my mind just goes berserk whenever anything related to deflategate comes up.(its why ive never posted, not even once, on anything to do with deflategate-it just gets me too pissed off). But yeah, i would appreciate enlightment on this subject.

Just to elaborate upon the thoughts of others: basically, Goodell is attempting to learn from what happened in 2008 when he stripped us of our first round pick, yet we still had the #7 overall selection from a trade with SF.

This time around, he put a rule into place stating that we'd lose the higher of the picks (since we are slated at 29) should we swing a trade. In other words, no matter what place they traded for, we'd still revert back to the original slot of 29, since there's really no rule stating that the team cannot make a trade.

Since there's only a select few on the entire team who could bring a 1st round pick in return, it's probably a pointless conversation anyway, as Chandler Jones was about the closest we were going to get to someone who was relatively disposable and could fetch anything in that range.

 

[jimnance]

Just to elaborate upon the thoughts of others: basically, Goodell is attempting to learn from what happened in 2008 when he stripped us of our first round pick, yet we still had the #7 overall selection from a trade with SF.

This time around, he put a rule into place stating that we'd lose the higher of the picks (since we are slated at 29) should we swing a trade. In other words, no matter what place they traded for, we'd still revert back to the original slot of 29, since there's really no rule stating that the team cannot make a trade.

Since there's only a select few on the entire team who could bring a 1st round pick in return, it's probably a pointless conversation anyway, as Chandler Jones was about the closest we were going to get to someone who was relatively disposable and could fetch anything in that range.

Yeah I agree its kind of moot, since its unlikely they trade up higher than 29 anyway. But it does show the lengths that scumbag(and the other scumbag owners who control him) will go to weaken the Patriots. Its kinda funny that despite all the **** they've thrown at us, Pats are still the #1 favorites to win the SB. But it still pisses me off. Ok, now I gotta hit the heavy bag .

 

[Ring 6]

with hoyer being available, do you trade jimmyG to the broncos for #32, and sign hoyer for vet minimum?

No one is giving a first round pick for jimmy g. A second is a long shot.

 

[Galeb]

No one is giving a first round pick for jimmy g. A second is a long shot.

Given how many bad QBs there are in the league right now, I wouldn't call a second a long shot for Jimmy G.

 

[JMC00]

 

[Galeb]

From the Panthers to the Pats to the Bengals. That's like a Filet Mignon sandwich with dog **** for bread.

 

[Ross12]

From the Panthers to the Pats to the Bengals. That's like a Filet Mignon sandwich with dog **** for bread.

"****, we lost Somewhat Faster Brandon LaFell (Sanu) for huge money to Atlanta! What do we do?! Oh hey, let's just sign Regular Brandon LaFell!"