Jeff Howe: "Edelman is playing"

[supafly]

Can you replicate that on any orthaepedic site? Any one? You have to find one that says you can immediately play sports on it.

Not entirely sure what you're getting at, RC, but I'm simply commenting on the fact that Dr. Chao was on top of it, and predicted correctly.

I remember because I made a joke about how "this will be the one time all year where we actually believe Chao."

He stated that "not all HAS are serious, and Brady should be fine for the playoff game in 2 weeks." (Slight paraphrasing) He also mentioned the excellent team staff and the importance of addressing the swelling in the early days of treatment.

 

[ViperGTS]

Not entirely sure what you're getting at, RC, but I'm simply commenting on the fact that Dr. Chao was on top of it, and predicted correctly.

I remember because I made a joke about how "this will be the one time all year where we actually believe Chao."

He stated that "not all HAS are serious, and Brady should be fine for the playoff game in 2 weeks." (Slight paraphrasing) He also mentioned the excellent team staff and the importance of addressing the swelling in the early days of treatment.

Don't we all know at this point that TB didn't have a high ankle? That info was passed along by Zo and others. If he did he would have been out for the rest of the game. So the argument about the high ankle is fairly moot I would say.

 

[RayClay]

Not entirely sure what you're getting at, RC, but I'm simply commenting on the fact that Dr. Chao was on top of it, and predicted correctly.

I remember because I made a joke about how "this will be the one time all year where we actually believe Chao."

He stated that "not all HAS are serious, and Brady should be fine for the playoff game in 2 weeks." (Slight paraphrasing) He also mentioned the excellent team staff and the importance of addressing the swelling in the early days of treatment.

He did not predict correctly. Brady tasped it up and played immediately. It wasn't a high ankle sprain. The ligament between his leg bones wasn't damage causing him to be unable to carry weight on that leg.

If your dog has feathers, webbed feet and quacks, you can call him a dog if you want to. doesn't mean he is.

I see you didn't take the easy route and find out what a grade 1 high ankle sprain is. I have to ask, why?

sports orthopedics high ankle.
Treatment of high ankle sprains depends on the severity of injury, specifically the presence of separation or diastasis of the tibia and fibula, and the presence of ankle instability. In injuries where there is no separation of the tibia and fibula and no ankle instability, nonsurgical treatment is appropriate. Rest, ice, compression and elevation are recommended. A non-weight bearing cast is used for two to three weeks, followed by use of a fracture boot and progressive weight-bearing. The recovery time for high ankle sprains is usually longer than that for severe lateral ankle sprains, on average 55 days compared to 28 days. If separation of the tibia and fibula is present on radiographs, then surgical stabilization with syndesmosis screws is usually necessary. If initial radiographs are negative but clinical suspicion for syndesmosis injury exists, then stress radiographs may be helpful to illustrate separation of the tibia and fibula. To properly diagnose and treat a high ankle sprain, an evaluation by an orthopedic surgeon is advised.

Thomas R. Lyons M.D. is a fellowship-trained and board certified orthopedic surgeon practicing at the Orthopedic Center for Sports Medicine (OCSM) located at 671 West Esplanade Avenue, Suite 100, Kenner, LA, 4921 Airline Drive, Metairie, LA and 7030 Canal Blvd in New Orleans, LA. OCSM is a multi specialty center of excellence dedicated to providing the highest quality care for patients and athletes with musculoskeletal injuries or disease. For additional information please call (504) 467-5900.

High ankle sprain: An uncommon orthopedic injury

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[supafly]

He did not predict correctly. Brady tasped it up and played immediately. It wasn't a high ankle sprain.

I'm just pointing out the fact that he immediately came out and stated that "not all high ankle sprains are serious, and that Brady should be fine for the playoffs." As a matter of fact, I believe that he told Patriot fans to relax and not to worry.

In that sense, Chao was pretty spot on in his analysis.

I see you didn't take the easy route and find out what a grade 1 high ankle sprain is. I have to ask, why?

Why didn't I find out what the true definition of a grade 1 high ankle sprain is as if I were writing some type of research paper? To be honest, I simply don't care. I'm not getting into whether or not it was/was not a high ankle sprain or a "regular" ankle sprain. That isn't what I'm debating at all, and I don't even understand why anyone cares (just my personal opinion).

I'm simply stating that Chao was pretty spot on in his analysis by reminding everyone that not all HAS are serious, and that he'd be fine in 2 weeks. Like I said, I remember making a joke that this would be the one and only time where Pats fans would take his word as gospel all year, so that proves that he was very upbeat and positive about his recovery time and chances of playing right off the bat from day one.

 

[supafly]

Don't we all know at this point that TB didn't have a high ankle? That info was passed along by Zo and others. If he did he would have been out for the rest of the game. So the argument about the high ankle is fairly moot I would say.

My one and only point is that Dr.Chao came out and stated that "not all HAS are serious." Either way you look at it, Chao provided a very spot on analysis of how "non-serious" the injury was, and that we should all relax because he would surely play in 2 weeks.

If that somehow means that Dr.Chao was "wrong," so be it--but I'll take that kind of supposedly "incorrect" analysis any day of the week because he was pretty much spot on about calming everyone down and stating that he'd definitely be playing.

 

[ViperGTS]

My one and only point is that Dr.Chao came out and stated that "not all HAS are serious." Either way you look at it, Chao provided a very spot on analysis of how "non-serious" the injury was, and that we should all relax because he would surely play in 2 weeks.

If that somehow means that Dr.Chao was "wrong," so be it--but I'll take that kind of supposedly "incorrect" analysis any day of the week because he was pretty much spot on about calming everyone down and stating that he'd definitely be playing.

I was pretty calm when they retaped his ankle and played the rest of the game. I knew at that point it wasn't a high ankle. Maclin has a high ankle and he was done for the game per usual.

 

[supafly]

I was pretty calm when they retaped his ankle and played the rest of the game. I knew at that point it wasn't a high ankle. Maclin has a high ankle and he was done for the game per usual.

Well, I can't really describe my feelings as "calm," but it was very encouraging to see him stay out there as opposed to leaving the game, like you say.

As far as Chao goes, I honestly don't know if he was the one who came out and claiming that it definitely was a HAS. I just remember him calming us down by reminding people that not all HAS are serious. It's quite possible that he didn't know one way or the other, but as a whole I consider his analysis in this situation to have been helpful.

 

[RayClay]

I'm just pointing out the fact that he immediately came out and stated that "not all high ankle sprains are serious, and that Brady should be fine for the playoffs." As a matter of fact, I believe that he told Patriot fans to relax and not to worry.

In that sense, Chao was pretty spot on in his analysis.



Why didn't I find out what the true definition of a grade 1 high ankle sprain is as if I were writing some type of research paper? To be honest, I simply don't care. I'm not getting into whether or not it was/was not a high ankle sprain or a "regular" ankle sprain. That isn't what I'm debating at all, and I don't even understand why anyone cares (just my personal opinion).

I'm simply stating that Chao was pretty spot on in his analysis by reminding everyone that not all HAS are serious, and that he'd be fine in 2 weeks. Like I said, I remember making a joke that this would be the one and only time where Pats fans would take his word as gospel all year, so that proves that he was very upbeat and positive about his recovery time and chances of playing right off the bat from day one.

His analysis of something you have no knowledge of was spot on. Okeedokee.

 

[RayClay]

I was pretty calm when they retaped his ankle and played the rest of the game. I knew at that point it wasn't a high ankle. Maclin has a high ankle and he was done for the game per usual.

Absolutely. The thought that Belichick would have him play a quarter in a meaningless game while the 2 bones of his leg separated with every step is hilarious. Great way to prepare for the playoffs.

 

[supafly]

His analysis of something you have no knowledge of was spot on. Okeedokee.

I have perfectly reasonable knowledge of subject matter including the words/phrases "not all high ankle sprains are serious," that "the team has an excellent staff that will help to manage the swelling in the initial stages," and that "Brady will be fine in 2 weeks for the playoffs." He even went on to tell us fans to relax and calm down.

What, out of those 4 statements proved to be wrong?

More importantly, why in the hell are you making such a big deal of this with me, specifically? What could I have possibly said that came off as controversial or incorrect to you about this situation? I never once claimed that Chao did/didn't say that it was definitely a HAS, nor do I care. I said that he was pretty spot on about the situation.

You may have a beef with some other posters who questioned you earlier in the thread, but your beef certainly shouldn't be with me. I couldn't possibly care any less whether it was considered a HAS or a regular ankle sprain. I'm just stating that Chao was pretty spot on about the situation, just like he was with Gronk's.

 

[RayClay]

I have perfectly reasonable knowledge of subject matter including the words/phrases "not all high ankle sprains are serious," that "the team has an excellent staff that will help to manage the swelling in the initial stages," and that "Brady will be fine in 2 weeks for the playoffs." He even went on to tell us fans to relax and calm down.

What, out of those 4 statements proved to be wrong?

More importantly, why in the hell are you making such a big deal of this with me, specifically? What could I have possibly said that came off as controversial or incorrect to you about this situation? I never once claimed that Chao did/didn't say that it was definitely a HAS, nor do I care. I said that he was pretty spot on about the situation.

You may have a beef with some other posters who questioned you earlier in the thread, but your beef certainly shouldn't be with me. I couldn't possibly care any less whether it was considered a HAS or a regular ankle sprain. I'm just stating that Chao was pretty spot on about the situation, just like he was with Gronk's.

High ankle sprains are more serious.

They wouldn't have risked Brady playing on a high ankle sprain so close to the playoffs.

I don't have a beef with anyone. I just think that words mean something.

 

[RayClay]

Well, I can't really describe my feelings as "calm," but it was very encouraging to see him stay out there as opposed to leaving the game, like you say.

As far as Chao goes, I honestly don't know if he was the one who came out and claiming that it definitely was a HAS. I just remember him calming us down by reminding people that not all HAS are serious. It's quite possible that he didn't know one way or the other, but as a whole I consider his analysis in this situation to have been helpful.

He wasn't. It was Dr. Albert Breer. He took an Adam Schefter report of a sprained ankle and added the word high to it, for no reason, apparently.

 

[supafly]

High ankle sprains are more serious.

They wouldn't have risked Brady playing on a high ankle sprain so close to the playoffs.

Obviously, R.C. I think that goes without saying. Any moron can tell you that a HAS is more serious than a "regular" ankle sprain, which is precisely why I didn't have to look anything up.

This all said, I'm still not sure what any of it has to do with Dr.Chao being "incorrect?" As a matter of fact, I don't even know if he was one to come out and definitively state that Brady had a HAS. He simply reminded everyone that HAS aren't always serious and that he'd be fine for the playoffs. To me, that's credit to Chao.

If anything, you should take it up with the report from Albert Breer, since that was the original report, not Chao's. Dr.Chao was simply stating that "not all HAS are necessarily 'serious.' " I don't think he stuck his neck out one way or the other, but I did find his analysis to be both comforting and accurate.

 

[supafly]

He wasn't. It was Dr. Albert Breer. He took an Adam Schefter report of a sprained ankle and added the word high to it, for no reason, apparently.

If you took issue with the fact that I said that Chao was "correct," what's the problem then?

As noted, there were in fact, plenty of statements that Chao was correct on, and if you're openly admitting that he wasn't even the one to break that (incorrect) story, what would your beef be with either him, or more importantly me, for that matter?

 

[Deus Irae]

Obviously, R.C. I think that goes without saying. Any moron can tell you that a HAS is more serious than a "regular" ankle sprain

Just for the record, the above is only a general rule. General recovery time for a mild high ankle sprain is 4-6 weeks, but it can be either less or more.

 

[luuked]

Chao called it a "high ankle sprain", a 4-6 week injury.

Not only didn't Brady miss a snap, he was out of a boot in 2 days.

What the hell are you talking about ?

Here are Chao's Brady related tweets immediately as it happened:

By video, BRADY is rolled up on from behind but luckily his right foot/ankle was not trapped/planted. Should be OK.

Escapes more sever high ankle sprain as foot was not trapped. Expecting BRADY to be OK with ankle sprain.

And here after the game:

Yes, BRADY's ankle will be fine for playoffs. http://shar.es/16tSiW Little concern for serious or lingering injury

With the bye, don't believe the ankle will be a big deal. That was impression by video even before BRADY played on.

Then Breer posts his "according to sources its a high ankle sprain" tweet and Chao then takes this additional bit of information and calls it a mild high ankle sprain. If anything Breer is the clown who spreads misinformation.

 

[TommyD4207]

Just for the record, the above is only a general rule. General recovery time for a mild high ankle sprain is 4-6 weeks, but it can be either less or more.

We can all agree it's not 2 days, though? Ever? Never mind playing on it.

 

[TommyD4207]

What the hell are you talking about ?

Here are Chao's Brady related tweets immediately as it happened:





And here after the game:





Then Breer posts his "according to sources its a high ankle sprain" tweet and Chao then takes this additional bit of information and calls it a mild high ankle sprain. If anything Breer is the clown who spreads misinformation.

The injury is wrong.

There's no such thing as a "mild high ankle sprain" where the person would be out of a boot within 2 days. There is no such thing.

I don't care how "mild" it is. I'm not even sure that's an actual term, a "mild high ankle sprain".

Lester Munson Chao was wrong. Again. As he is more often than not.

 

[luuked]

The injury is wrong.

There's no such thing as a "mild high ankle sprain" where the person would be out of a boot within 2 days. There is no such thing.

I don't care how "mild" it is. I'm not even sure that's an actual term, a "mild high ankle sprain".

Lester Munson Chao was wrong. Again. As he is more often than not.

Chao has a hit rate of over 85% this year alone. But keep making stuff up and continue being ignorant.

 

[Mack Herron]