Jeff Howe: "Edelman is playing"

[RayClay]

When I was a kid, I got a fairly mild high ankle sprain jumping out of the back of the dump truck. I was mowing and lugging 100+ lb barrels of wet grass minutes later.

The two leg bones supporting your body weight had separated due to to damage to the ligament holding them together, so you decided to carry 100 plus pound barrels to see if you could finish the job and go for the operation and many months recovery.

That's quite impressive. You should donate your body to the Mayo clinic for study.

 

[JJDChE]

Hasn't Edelman been practicing for a month now?

Howe obviously wasn't trying to break news, but who is even questioning this?

(Note: I didn't bother opening the 'What if Edelman doesn't play' thread. I assumed it was a joke.)

 

[RayClay]

Sure. But more often than not, and by a good margin, he is correct in his diagnosis from just watching the game on TV. Would I want him as my doctor, or as the Pats team doctor? Hell no. But as an injury analyst he seems to be doing a pretty good job.

I'm not saying he can't look at a knee or ankle on tape and make a better guess than the rest of us, it is his field [or was if he screws up again].

What I'm saying is he will say anything to get retweeted, so if 20 media sites retweet Breer, in his ignorance, adding high to ankle, than it'ds damn sure Chao will say high ankle sprain, because it's a buzzword among people who don't know what they're talking about.

There's a much higher incidence of high ankle sprains in football that in everyday life, which means up to 15% instead of 5-10%. They are rare and it means you can't support your weight right away, because when you do, you are separating the two large bones that support all your weight.

IMO, chao knows it's not a high sprain and he first wrote about it without saying that. He has nothing to gain by being accurate, only famous, because if he screws up once, he's toast and he has lots and lots of bills.

 

[RayClay]

Hasn't Edelman been practicing for a month now?

Howe obviously wasn't trying to break news, but who is even questioning this?

(Note: I didn't bother opening the 'What if Edelman doesn't play' thread. I assumed it was a joke.)

I found it useful. Big difference between practicing and playing when you've got a screw in your foot. also, Howe is one of the few in the media who has any credibility to me, so there's that too.

 

[Galeb]

The two leg bones supporting your body weight had separated due to to damage to the ligament holding them together, so you decided to carry 100 plus pound barrels to see if you could finish the job and go for the operation and many months recovery.

That's quite impressive. You should donate your body to the Mayo clinic for study.

I was being honest and never required surgery. Perhaps you didn't see the term mild. I didn't miss a day of work that week. Every trip to empty barrels took more time. We were a competitive crew and got a lot of work done. When the grass was wet in the mornings, the barrels would often exceed 100 lbs. A couple of the guys used to carry one on each shoulder, but I was a kid and couldn't quite manage that when the grass was wet.

 

[RayClay]

Sure. But more often than not, and by a good margin, he is correct in his diagnosis from just watching the game on TV. Would I want him as my doctor, or as the Pats team doctor? Hell no. But as an injury analyst he seems to be doing a pretty good job.

I'm more taking on the ridiculous idea that every sprained ankle is a high one. He knows he's wrong, but goes along, which is his right, he's not getting paid. He knew when brady taped up and went back in the game what it was ad wasn't.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He always will be, since a reputable doctor won't do what he's doing anyway.

I should have used a.....

 

[RayClay]

I was being honest and never required surgery. I didn't miss a day of work that week. Perhaps you didn't see the term mild.

I imagined you danced all night after a 10 hour day too. Face it, you're a stud.

Did the two bones in your leg become further separated?

 

[RayClay]

I should have used a.....

It's hard to tell these days. Just rubs me wrong to have even a disgraced doctor go along with this buzzword "high" for really minor regular sprain, which , obviously, is what brady has.

Don't scare me, stupid media! of course, it was always wrong. Even if brady could play well [he was fine] there's no way the team let's him turn a [maybe] 3-4 week recovery into a more severe injury.

 

[Galeb]

I imagined you danced all night after a 10 hour day too. fFace it, you're a stud.

Did the two bones in your leg become further separated?

LOL, you were the one with the snarky post about "sitting at a desk" after. I just answered the question honestly. I didn't mean to intimidate you. Don't worry, I am much older and not in near the shape I was at 18. It really wasn't nearly the feat you perceive it to be, and there wasn't a guy on in any of our crews that couldn't do it. I don't know if my bones became further apart, but it took a while to heal completely, and hurt like hell climbing or going on tip toes. It feels very different than a low ankle sprain.

Why such hostility? Have you considered that I just might actually be, you know, telling the truth?

 

[RayClay]

I was being honest and never required surgery. Perhaps you didn't see the term mild. I didn't miss a day of work that week. Every trip to empty barrels took more time. We were a competitive crew and got a lot of work done. When the grass was wet in the mornings, the barrels would often exceed 100 lbs. A couple of the guys used to carry one on each shoulder, but I was a kid and couldn't quite manage that when the grass was wet.

What’s the Treatment for High Ankle Sprain?

It is important to have stability between the tibia and fibula at this level because there is a tremendous amount of force that passes through this area when walking and running. Some rotation of the fibula with respect to the tibia is permitted by these ligaments.

Once you rupture or overstretch these high ankle ligaments, the bones of your lower leg move apart with every step causing pain and loss of your passive ankle stability. You will often require crutches or a walking boot during this phase...

Grade 1 - Mild

In mild cases, you can expect full ligament healing at approximately 6 weeks, but it may take longer to prepare you for functional sport again.

Despite most people being told to simply “rest” and it will recover, we find that these mild sprains often result in joint stiffness, ligament laxity, muscle weakness or tightness plus reduced proprioception (balance and joint awareness).

If not adequately treated these often cause your ankle and foot joints to compensate movement at adjacent joints, which can lead to several other injuries months or years down the track.

High Ankle Sprain

I used to unload trucks all day. Your crew carried 100 lb barrels on each shoulder. That's pretty amazing.

 

[RayClay]

LOL, you were the one with the snarky post about "sitting at a desk" after. I just answered the question honestly. I didn't mean to intimidate you. Don't worry, I am much older and not in near the shape I was at 18. It really wasn't nearly the feat you perceive it to be, and there wasn't a guy on in any of our crews that couldn't do it. I don't know if my bones became further apart, but it took a while to heal completely, and hurt like hell climbing or going on tip toes. It feels very different than a low ankle sprain.

Why such hostility? Have you considered that I just might actually be, you know, telling the truth?

No, the sitting at desk post was someone else. I don't doubt you think, for some reason, you had a high ankle sprain.

Read up and you'll realize you probably had a regular one, like Brady.

Sorry, I just think words have meanings

 

[Galeb]

High Ankle Sprain

I used to unload trucks all day. Your crew carried 100 lb barrels on each shoulder. That's pretty amazing.

I used to lump trucks too. That was hard work, because of the repetitive motion, and folks without strong lower backs suffered.

I said a couple of guys on the crew could do two barrels, and it is impressive, but probably not why you think. The difficulty wasn't because of the shear weight, but because of how wide the barrels were, and that when carrying two, the arms had to be spread out pretty wide to grasp the far edge of the barrel to keep it steady. Most of us would do just one barrel, but tilt it inwards, with one hand on the bottom and the other supporting the high upper wall. It isn't nearly the feat you consider it.

 

[Galeb]

No, the sitting at desk post was someone else. I don't doubt you think, for some reason, you had a high ankle sprain.

Read up and you'll realize you probably had a regular one, like Brady.

Sorry, I just think words have meanings

Sorry about that, I thought that was you with the desk comment. I've had both types, and they feel dramatically different. I've been to the doctors for both types, when they were serious. I'm not bullshitting you. That said, the serious high sprain took much longer to heal, and I certainly wasn't landscaping for a while afterwards.

 

[RIpats88]

Check out @joeamorosino's Tweet:

 

[Gumby]

Check out @joeamorosino's Tweet:

After Gronk's arm, any mention of a metal plate doesnt make me feel good.

 

[RIpats88]

Per #NFL source: @Edelman11 HAS HAD TO ADJUST THE WAY HE PUSHES OFF & MAKES CUTS. #7News #Patriots

 

[RIpats88]

Chao expects edelman to be at about 90percent

 

[luuked]

He always will be, since a reputable doctor won't do what he's doing anyway.

Too bad his hit rate this year was over 85%. But go on keep unreasonably hating on him.

Despite you claiming otherwise Chao nailed the Brady situation as well by the way.

 

[Patsrock]

I suffered a high ankle sprain on 12-2-15 when at work a table cart broke and sent banquet tables down on my ankle. I thought I had broke it but didn't turned out to be a high ankle sprain. I just got cleared to return this week to my normal job of banquet event set up. And yes the doctor determined it was a high ankle sprain. Just got out of the walking boot on Friday and can. Ow be back to driving.

I can say I can't imagine playing pot running on a high ankle sprain. Probably one of the most painful injuries I have ever had in my life.